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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Mike Wickham
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 6:22 PM
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Subject: Re: [OT] Adobe's pricing policy
Well, darn. I misread the
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Not if it's pronounced Dos Ten Ten.
Nadine
--- On Fri, 10/29/10, Bill Swallow wrote:
> From: Bill Swallow
> Subject: [Bulk] Re: [OT] Adobe's pricing policy
> To: "Steve Pawlowskis"
> Cc: &quo
Classification: SERCO-PUBLIC
Not just Adobe. Regardless of exchange rates, it's always been the case that
the dollar price is more or less the same numerical value as the sterling
price. Thus anything costing $100 in the US costs £100 over here (which is
sometimes twice the actual price). VAT
nd out
about my mistake today.
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I don't PDF often, but when I do, I use DOS XX
Bernard
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Not if it's pronounced Dos Ten Ten.
Nadine
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> From: Bill Swallow
> Subject: [Bulk] Re: [OT] Adobe's pricing policy
> To: "Steve Pawlowskis"
> Cc: "fra
rsday, October 28, 2010 12:24 PM
> To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: RE: [OT] Adobe's pricing policy
>
> Acrobat X is not shipping yet nor has Adobe committed to a November 1
> ship date.
>
> It is pronounced "Acrobat Ten" - as usual, it's a marketin
Not if it's pronounced Dos Ten Ten.
Nadine
--- On Fri, 10/29/10, Bill Swallow wrote:
> From: Bill Swallow
> Subject: [Bulk] Re: [OT] Adobe's pricing policy
> To: "Steve Pawlowskis"
> Cc: "framers@lists.frameusers.com"
> Date: Friday, Octob
Not if it's pronounced Dos Ten Ten.
Nadine
--- On Fri, 10/29/10, Bill Swallow wrote:
> From: Bill Swallow
> Subject: [Bulk] Re: [OT] Adobe's pricing policy
> To: "Steve Pawlowskis"
> Cc: "framers at lists.frameusers.com"
> Date: Friday, Octob
I don't PDF often, but when I do, I use DOS XX
Bernard
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Sent: 10/29/10 9:51 AM
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> That would be the most interesting software
> If Adobe offered version 20 for really old operating systems would it be
> Acrobat DOS XX ?
> Steve Pawlowskis
> Technology Coordinator
ROFL!
Maybe that is what they were drinking when they came up with "Acrobat X". :) :)
Z
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That would be the most interesting software in the world.
On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 9:28 AM, Steve Pawlowskis wrote:
> If Adobe offered version 20 for really old operating systems would it be
> Acrobat DOS XX ?
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Well, RoboHelp started getting wonky with regard to versions after
1999. Versions went:
7
2000
9
2002
X3
X4
X5
6
7
8
9
Notice two version 7s and two version 9s, each roughly 10 years apart.
I've learned not to think on these things too hard. It hurts.
Bill
On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 4:59 PM, Layt
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> Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com; 'Mike Wickham'
> Subject: Re: [OT] Adobe's pricing policy
>
> Well, I have to thank Dov for clarifying the numbering thing because I
> thought "Acrobat X (pronounced 10)" meant a return to version two! 8^0.
>
>
As near as I can tell from their website, Adobe have abandoned the 3-D
functionality altogether in version 10. So a big chunk of "extended" is gone
from Acrobat X Pro anyway. Maybe they should pay us to make the switch from
Acrobat 9 Pro Extended to Acrobat X Pro! Oh well.
John
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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Dov Isaacs
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Acrobat X is not shipping yet nor has Adobe committed to a November 1
ship da
o: Yves Barbion
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: [OT] Adobe's pricing policy
I had this same situation on this list some time back.
I said this on the list on 18 October, 2009
(http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/2009-October/018261.html
)
> Can anyone explain
There is no such thing as a free lunch, Peter. ;-)
By the way, the price ratio seems to be the same for other products too: the
prices in the US store are 53 % of the prices in the European store!
Hmmm, I'm wondering is there is anyone buying FrameMaker 9 Server in Europe,
priced at 10746 EUR (14
com
Subject: Re: [OT] Adobe's pricing policy
Yves Barbion wrote:
> Hi group
>
> Can someone please explain to me why Adobe Acrobat 9 Standard (Full,
no > update) costs:
>
> - US $299 (216 EUR) when I buy it in the US Store
> http://bit.ly/aXhtLv
> - U
n Franklin
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ke Wickham
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 1:41 PM
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> But why bother with 9? X is shipping...
Say what? When? And are they really going to call it X instead of 10?
Mike Wickham
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Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 12:24 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: [OT] Adobe's pricing policy
Acrobat X is not shipping yet nor has Adobe committed to a November 1 ship date.
It is pronounced "Acrobat Ten" - as usual, it's
Yves Barbion wrote:
> Hi group
>
> Can someone please explain to me why Adobe Acrobat 9 Standard (Full, no
> update) costs:
>
> - US $299 (216 EUR) when I buy it in the US Store
> http://bit.ly/aXhtLv
> - US $554 (401 EUR) when I buy it in a European Adobe Store
> - http://bit.ly/
Mike Wickham wrote:
> And if someone says, "I'm an Acrobat X user," are they bragging or
> disgruntled? :)
Well, it does offer Adobe a great new marketing opportunity: sponsoring the
Acrobat X Games.
(Sorry, but Friday's getting close!)
Richard G. Combs
Senior Technical Writer
Polycom, Inc.
Well, darn. I misread the original message and thought you were talking
about FrameMaker 10 coming out. I knew about Acrobat "X." Good luck getting
people to pronounce it as Acrobat 10. I still hear people say OSX instead of
OS 10. What a stupid naming idea. You just know some bug will be found
And if someone says, "I'm an Acrobat X user," are they bragging or
disgruntled? :)
Mike Wickham
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I read one of Adobe's press releases that said "Acrobat X
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Can you buy it from a US store?
Your chat log sounds like a support bot. Either that or Daryll has
been watching too many Ed Wood movies.
On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 10:03 AM, Yves Barbion wrote:
> Hi group
>
> Can someone please explain to me why Adobe Acrobat 9 Standard (Full, no
> update) costs:
Yves Barbion
> Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Re: [OT] Adobe's pricing policy
>
> Does Belgium have a VAT?
>
> But why bother with 9? X is shipping...
>
> Art Campbell
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> > > But why bother with 9? X is shipping..
> On 29/10/2010, at 8:08 AM, Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net) wrote:
> > My only [usual] gripe is with the upgrade pricing (like all Adobe
> > upgrades!). It is $199 regardless of whether you have Acrobat 9 Pro
> > *or* Acrobat 9 Pro Extended to go to Acrobat X Pro (there is only
> >
On 29/10/2010, at 8:08 AM, Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
wrote:
I got my e-mail from Adobe about this sometime last week as I
recall. I believe the shipping date is Nov 1, but forget where I saw
that.
And, I have no idea why it is "X" instead of "10". :)
My only [usual] gri
> > But why bother with 9? X is shipping...
> Say what? When? And are they really going to call it X instead of 10?
> Mike Wickham
I got my e-mail from Adobe about this sometime last week as I recall. I believe
the shipping date is Nov 1, but forget where I saw that.
And, I have no idea why it
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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Mike Wickham
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Lea Rush quipped: Not quite - his answer is somewhat related to the
question. ;)
But Daryl is quite deft at sticking to the talking points and he
even tried skirting the question with a change-the-subject quick-step.
He's already got the "We understand your concern blah-blah-blah" down
pat. J
I had this same situation on this list some time back.
I said this on the list on 18 October, 2009 (http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/2009-October/018261.html
)
Can anyone explain to me why it is that Adobe charges USD399 for the
upgrade of FrameMaker to version 9 for domestic cus
But why bother with 9? X is shipping...
Say what? When? And are they really going to call it X instead of 10?
Mike Wickham
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Does Belgium have a VAT?
But why bother with 9? X is shipping...
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At 16:03 +0200 28/10/10, Yves Barbion wrote:
>Huh?
Darryl is maybe a computer program of some sort?
I had a similar exchange with PayPal recently. That time, after wending my way
through an impenetrable forest of web options, I talked to a real, [apparently]
human female, but for all the sense
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