t: Thursday, July 18, 2013 1:15 PM
> To: m...@mattrsullivan.com; Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net);
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> Subject: Re: OT!!!!!!!: Adobe 'Creative Cloud' (again)
>
> And on the other side of the fence...
>
> I fi
Alan Litchfield wrote:
> Actually Richard...
> On 19/07/13 8:41 AM, Combs, Richard wrote:
> John Posada wrote:
>
> Off list. Aside from it is interesting to a small subset, its just plain
> boring now.
>
> You think that's boring? The logical next topic is: Should the debate about
> whether the
Actually Richard...
On 19/07/13 8:41 AM, Combs, Richard wrote:
John Posada wrote:
Off list. Aside from it is interesting to a small subset, its just plain
boring now.
You think that's boring? The logical next topic is: Should the debate about
whether the CC discussion belongs off-list or o
John Posada wrote:
> Off list. Aside from it is interesting to a small subset, its just plain
> boring now.
You think that's boring? The logical next topic is: Should the debate about
whether the CC discussion belongs off-list or on-list be off-list or on-list?
;-)
Richard G. Combs
Senior T
Thx!(and grateful for not starting a flame war on the topic!)
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On Jul 18, 2013, at 1:32 PM, "Syed Zaeem
le hundred dollars rather than having to fork out a kilobuck or more
up-front.
-Fred Ridder
> Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 13:14:40 -0700
> From: generic...@yahoo.ca
> Subject: Re: OT!!!: Adobe 'Creative Cloud' (again)
> To: m...@mattrsullivan.com; syed.hos...@aeris.
Hi, all.
I'll respect the requests and keep my comments off-line (other than this last
one)
But only until after my belief/speculation/prediction comes true: when - not if
- FrameMaker upgrades/licensing is foisted on us as subscription model, it will
be fair game again. This will be relativel
Off list. Aside from it is interesting to a small subset, its just plain
boring now.
On Jul 18, 2013 4:18 PM, "Writer" wrote:
> And on the other side of the fence...
>
> I find it an interesting discussion. And I prefer to have it on this list
> since I don't participate in many other lists.
>
>
And on the other side of the fence...
I find it an interesting discussion. And I prefer to have it on this list since
I don't participate in many other lists.
Sorry, Matt, my vote is for keep it online.
Nadine
>
>Bandwidth is measured also by the number of emails one can reasonably read
>(and
David, it seems logical to me:
if the CC licence is for version >6, and your CS version is 6, flies
created with the cloud version won't be able to be opened with your
local version. Just like you cannot open FM version 10 files in FM
version 9.
Grant
On 7/17/2013 4:52 AM, David Creamer wro
Read my note again. I didn't say CS6 would stop working. I said that
files created in the CC version may not always be backward compatible
with CS6. Right now, I don't know if CC has introduced any features that
create files that aren't backward compatible, but each new edition of
Photoshop te
If you already own a perpetual license version, you don't have to stop
using it. But if you start out as a renter, you do. And if you own a
perpetual license, such as CS6, and then rent CC as your new upgrade
path, when you stop paying, there's a good chance that your current
files will no long
I really don't understand this reasoning that if you can't update your
software every year or whatever you have to stop using it.
I never upgrade my tools unless there's a compelling reason to do so.
FrameMaker upgrades in particular have been one step forward, two
steps back, since version 8. Ado
Hi Steve
You may know this already, but Xara is a credible alternative to
Illustrator, and a lot cheaper. Dunno about any of the others though...
Regards,
Roger
On 12/07/2013 11:46 AM, Steve Rickaby wrote:
I have just had a software vendor ring me to enquire about my future software
needs,
> I apologize for helping this topic spill into the FrameMaker arena where, so
> far, the subscription model has not been forced on us.
> Hopefully, Adobe won't also make that bad decision or they will find that
> they have lost the last bit of their revenue stream from me.
Given the fact that
half Of Mike Wickham
Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 8:31 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: OT: Adobe 'Creative Cloud' (again)
Steve, I'm with you. I used to be a huge Adobe fan. I have loved and praised
Adobe software far and wide. It's not cheap, but it is very capable an
Steve, I'm with you. I used to be a huge Adobe fan. I have loved and
praised Adobe software far and wide. It's not cheap, but it is very
capable and works very well. Now, I find myself hating Adobe. I'm not
just disappointed with the CC subscription model, I'm fuming. I complain
about it every
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