[Frameworks] Max MSP/Jitter

2014-08-06 Thread Zach Poff
+1 for Vade's shaders. I haven't used them for anything useful but they are a great example of digital tools emulating analog processes. I use MAX for all of my work, although it only sometimes resembles analog processes. Here are 2 examples: In The Shape of Memory MAX algorithmically

Re: [Frameworks] Fibonacci Sequence

2014-08-06 Thread J. Fenlon
Digital photo-animation ok, or do you prefer film? I used Fibonacci sequence as a control via frame counts for a digitally-composed animation a while back ... Jessica http://drawclose.com On Aug 5, 2014, at 6:45 PM, Mark Toscano fiddy...@gmail.com wrote: Roberta Friedman and Grahame

Re: [Frameworks] Max MSP/Jitter

2014-08-06 Thread Peter Mudie
That ‘Video Silence’ piece is fascinating. Peter (Perth) From: Zach Poff z...@zachpoff.commailto:z...@zachpoff.com Reply-To: Experimental Film Discussion List frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.commailto:frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Date: Wednesday, 6 August 2014 9:39 pm To:

Re: [Frameworks] Max MSP/Jitter

2014-08-06 Thread Al Matthews
I agree. I'd be interested btw to know if there's a subset of this list that's interested in sound design in particular. Could be practical or theoretical. Zach references Michel Chion on his site for example. Of interest to some http://www.nicolascollins.com/texts/callforsilence.pdf On Wed,

Re: [Frameworks] films using the optical printer

2014-08-06 Thread Marcos Ortega
How about Pat O'Neill's work? 'Water and power', for example... On Wed, August 6, 2014 6:06 pm, Caryn Cline wrote: Dear Frameworkers, If I were going to undertake a series of screenings showcasing optical printer techniques, what work would you recommend? What is the best work for

Re: [Frameworks] times for dektol and 7363

2014-08-06 Thread Erin Weisgerber
Hmm, very interesting. I am surprised by the processing at less than a minute! Thanks for this info. Best, Erin On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 2:13 PM, Beebe, Roger W. beebe...@osu.edu wrote: I’ve used Dektol with hi-con plenty, but my experience is that exposure times are VERY short, definitely

Re: [Frameworks] films using the optical printer

2014-08-06 Thread Gawthrop, Rob
Monkey's Birthday, David Larcher; - colour separation, superimposition, bi-packing etc. Slides, Annabel Nicholson; pulling film through the gate etc Film Sound, Andy Moss; short edits/loops (sound and picture), superimpositions (all at LUX, London.) Rob From: Caryn Cline

Re: [Frameworks] films using the optical printer

2014-08-06 Thread Adam Hyman
The entire oeuvre of Pat O¹Neill is essential, and very influential. We did a screening with a various of interesting optically printed films as part of Alternative Projections. http://www.alternativeprojections.com/screening-series/visions-memory-and-a- machine-optical-manipulations/ On 8/6/14

Re: [Frameworks] films using the optical printer

2014-08-06 Thread Aaron F. Ross
In my humble opinion, Pat O'Neill is the master of optical printing. Water and Power is a great film, as are all of his. My personal favorites are Trouble in the Image and The Decay of Fiction. The latter is perhaps the greatest single example of optical printer work ever produced, but as

[Frameworks] Magnasynch Moviola guitar amp

2014-08-06 Thread Info
Reinventing the amplifier: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqtlAeUTfHA Best regards, Stephen Parr Director Oddball Film+Video www.oddballfilm.com Oddball Films www.oddballfilms.blogspot.com 275 Capp Street San Francisco, CA 94110 Phone 415.558.8112 Fax 415.558.8116 For a link to our

Re: [Frameworks] Magnasynch Moviola guitar amp

2014-08-06 Thread Jon Behrens
Great sound! I think I might have to give that a whirl Sent from my iPhone On Aug 6, 2014, at 11:57 AM, Info i...@oddballfilm.com wrote: Reinventing the amplifier: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqtlAeUTfHA Best regards, Stephen Parr Director Oddball Film+Video

Re: [Frameworks] Fibonacci Sequence

2014-08-06 Thread c b
Yes I'm looking for a diversity of approaches to show my students! Thanks for all for the suggestions - Cade Sent from my iPhone On Aug 6, 2014, at 8:13 AM, J. Fenlon snowbloods.para...@gmail.com wrote: Digital photo-animation ok, or do you prefer film? I used Fibonacci sequence as a

Re: [Frameworks] films using the optical printer

2014-08-06 Thread Michele Smith
Peter Tscherkassky On Aug 6, 2014, at 12:22 PM, c b bigmuddy2...@hotmail.com wrote: Martin Arnold's early films Sent from my iPhone On Aug 6, 2014, at 10:06 AM, Caryn Cline carynycl...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Frameworkers, If I were going to undertake a series of screenings

Re: [Frameworks] films using the optical printer

2014-08-06 Thread Jason Halprin
Hi Carolyn, Below is the screening list from the last time I taught Optical Printing at Columbia College. I agree that Pat O'Neill is probably the greatest example of Optical Printing artistry, and include much of his work is available for purchase in DVD form. However, I would also stress that

Re: [Frameworks] Fibonacci Sequence

2014-08-06 Thread Lady Snowblood
beautiful/strange https://vimeo.com/7656765 a 3-minute animation made in a 72-hour filmmaking ‘challenge weekend’ in 2006. Fibonnacci in relationship to time. Thanks! Jessica http://www.drawclose.com On Aug 6, 2014, at 2:25 PM, c b bigmuddy2...@hotmail.com wrote: Yes I'm looking for a

Re: [Frameworks] Fibonacci Sequence

2014-08-06 Thread Francisco Torres
May interest you- Not a F. Seq. , but Frampton's Zorn's Lemma is based on a math thing Too bad I flunked math. 2014-08-06 15:28 GMT-04:00 Lady Snowblood snowbloods.para...@gmail.com: beautiful/strange https://vimeo.com/7656765 a 3-minute animation made in a 72-hour filmmaking ‘challenge

Re: [Frameworks] Fibonacci Sequence

2014-08-06 Thread Fred Camper
These are not films, but the 16 Accretions linked to near the top of this page http://fredcamper.com/A/index1.html are series of photo-based digital prints that have cinema as one key inspiration. The use of Fibonacci numbers in them should be obvious. They do have some aspects of

Re: [Frameworks] times for dektol and 7363

2014-08-06 Thread Amanda Christie
My experience with Dektol and 3378 (formerly 7378) still a high-con orthochromatic stock, but slightly different, was always around 90 seconds. I worked with both lomo spiral tanks, as well as spaghetti style in buckets, and strips wrapped around plexi glass in photo paper trays for the 90

Re: [Frameworks] films using the optical printer

2014-08-06 Thread Mark Toscano
Baillie's CASTRO STREET has no optical printing in it. It's all in-camera matting or A/B/C lab printing. Also, it periodically needs to be said that Pat O'Neill's 7362 has NO optical printing in it whatsoever. It's all contact printing and hand-processing. A lot of people tend to talk about

Re: [Frameworks] Magnasynch Moviola guitar amp

2014-08-06 Thread todd eacrett
Shhh, don't tell everyone. It's one of the best poorly-kept secrets of film/guitar tube electronics nerds. The Moviola/Magnasync URS is basically the same amp circuit as a tweed Fender Champ -- 12AX7 + 6V6. There are numerous online tutorials to convert the input for a guitar level signal. 

Re: [Frameworks] Magnasynch Moviola guitar amp

2014-08-06 Thread todd eacrett
This has me thinking about other guitar applications of obsolete film tech. IR optical pickups are now available, but has anyone tested old 16mm optical heads with strings? Is the response rate fast enough for a string's vibration? I envision a frankenguitar of unplayable proportions and

Re: [Frameworks] films using the optical printer

2014-08-06 Thread Beebe, Roger W.
In the same spirit as Mark's post, I wanted to note that Peter Tscherkassky's Cinemascope trilogy is actually contact printed in short stretches (much of it using a laser pointer) rather than optically printed. He must surely have used an optical printer in some of his films (maybe Happy End,