Re: [Frameworks] Destructive Film Practices pre-1962

2012-06-06 Thread Madison Brookshire
Thanks, Rob. Do you happen to know if there is US distributor for any of these works (esp. on 16mm)? I was able to find Lemaitre's early work at Light Cone, but the rental + shipping would be prohibitively expensive. Best, Madison On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 12:40 PM, Gawthrop, Rob wrote: > The othe

Re: [Frameworks] Destructive Film Practices pre-1962

2012-06-05 Thread 飯村隆彦
t; Scratching: >> Kenneth Anger, Fireworks 1947 >> at least one or two by Brakhage in the 1950s but I don't remember >> which >> ones. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Madison Brookshire >> Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2012 10:39 AM >> To:

Re: [Frameworks] Destructive Film Practices pre-1962

2012-06-05 Thread Chuck Kleinhans
Not on topic, but related: There's a way in which certain uncontrolled practices of film bear witness to "authenticity," as when reportage, think especially wartime footage, reflects the direct effect of the depicted events on the materiality of the film: the shake, unexpected light flare, etc.

Re: [Frameworks] Destructive Film Practices pre-1962

2012-06-05 Thread marcos
A couple of Croatian films I saw recently: - Termites by Milan Samec (1963) was made spiling developer over the film strip, creating random stains over it. - In Zlatko Hajdler's performance piece 'Kariokinesis' (1965) the artist slowed down the projector's speed so the film was burned by the lamp.

Re: [Frameworks] Destructive Film Practices pre-1962

2012-06-05 Thread Gawthrop, Rob
The other Lettristes Maurice Lemaitre Guy Debord etc. Obviously Jeff Keen. Margaret Tait did a few experiements in the 50s and 60s. Rob On 05/06/2012 17:39, "Madison Brookshire" wrote: > Fellow Frameworkers, Does anyone have suggestions for films 1945-1962 that > create film imagery in a dest

Re: [Frameworks] Destructive Film Practices pre-1962

2012-06-05 Thread marilyn brakhage
r two by Brakhage in the 1950s but I don't remember > which > ones. > > -Original Message- > From: Madison Brookshire > Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2012 10:39 AM > To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com > Subject: [Frameworks] Destructive Film Practices pre-1962 > &

Re: [Frameworks] Destructive Film Practices pre-1962

2012-06-05 Thread John McAndrew
This is pre-1945 obviously and not "experimental" as such, but worth mentioning anyway as a classic precursor to this practice; the opening newsreel scene in Citizen Kane (1941) was physically scratched and manipulated by the editor dragging the film along the floor to give it the look of a well-wo

Re: [Frameworks] Destructive Film Practices pre-1962

2012-06-05 Thread Gene Youngblood
Scratching: Kenneth Anger, Fireworks 1947 at least one or two by Brakhage in the 1950s but I don't remember which ones. -Original Message- From: Madison Brookshire Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2012 10:39 AM To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Subject: [Frameworks] Destructive Film Prac

Re: [Frameworks] Destructive Film Practices pre-1962

2012-06-05 Thread Beebe,Roger W
Raphael Montañez Ortiz's films are pretty destructive found-footage afairs. "Golf" uses hole punches. "Cowboy and 'Indian' Film" and "Newsreel" subject found footage to random recutting "with a tomahawk (per Ortiz's description, although one suspects a proper splicer was used). All those film

[Frameworks] Destructive Film Practices pre-1962

2012-06-05 Thread Madison Brookshire
Fellow Frameworkers, Does anyone have suggestions for films 1945-1962 that create film imagery in a destructive way? e.g. scratching, bleaching, hole punching, etc. I am thinking of works such as Isadore Isou's Venom and Eternity (1951), less of Len Lye's Free Radicals (1958). Suggestions of wor