Re: [free-software-melb] ZaTab from ZaReason - a fully open Android tablet

2012-04-25 Thread Chris Samuel
On 26/04/12 13:16, Chris Samuel wrote: > Yes, they have said to me that they chose the Allwinner A10 because it > was the most open SoC they could find. I am not clear about the GPU > driver Asked via Twitter, their response was: https://twitter.com/#!/ZaReasonNZ/status/195359671450742785 @chr

Re: [free-software-melb] CyanogenMod 7 on SGS2

2012-04-25 Thread Russell Coker
On Thu, 26 Apr 2012, Tim Cuthbertson wrote: > There are links to downloads of the google apps on that wiki, but I > expect it's illegal to distribute them, and maybe even to download > them. I think that Google might be most concerned about mass distributors (which is the point of copyright) and

Re: [free-software-melb] CyanogenMod 7 on SGS2

2012-04-25 Thread Brian May
On 26 April 2012 13:31, Brian May wrote: > From those links, I found http://goo.im/gapps, which took me to here: > http://wiki.rootzwiki.com/Google_Apps Oh, it is kind of weird and unsettling when I copy and paste the links (right click and select copy) from http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/Lates

Re: [free-software-melb] CyanogenMod 7 on SGS2

2012-04-25 Thread Tim Cuthbertson
On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 1:17 PM, Chris Samuel wrote: > On 26/04/12 12:58, Tim Cuthbertson wrote: > >> Unless I'm missing something, that still seems to back up Matt's statement. > > Er, I was replying to Russell.. Oops, saw Matt's face above yours in the thread and assumed he was the one quoted.

Re: [free-software-melb] CyanogenMod 7 on SGS2

2012-04-25 Thread Brian May
On 26 April 2012 13:16, Brian May wrote: > The google apps have been included with the iso distribution of > android-x86 - does this mean downloading it is illegal? > > Supposedly android-x86 is entirely open source - see > http://www.android-x86.org/ - I wonder if somebody made a mistake > includ

Re: [free-software-melb] CyanogenMod 7 on SGS2

2012-04-25 Thread Brian May
On 26 April 2012 12:58, Tim Cuthbertson wrote: > There's a note on that page that some apps can now be downloaded from > the marketplace, but it's important to realise that the marketplace > app itself is one such binary-only app that you can't legally get > unless it came with your phone. >From

Re: [free-software-melb] CyanogenMod 7 on SGS2

2012-04-25 Thread Chris Samuel
On 26/04/12 12:58, Tim Cuthbertson wrote: > Unless I'm missing something, that still seems to back up Matt's statement. Er, I was replying to Russell.. -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC ___ Free-software-melb mailing list

Re: [free-software-melb] ZaTab from ZaReason - a fully open Android tablet

2012-04-25 Thread Chris Samuel
On 26/04/12 13:16, Chris Samuel wrote: > As I wrote in the blog, they're working with the Software Freedom > Conservancy is "pure" (to use their words). Hmm, missed some words there, let's try that again.. As I wrote in the blog, they're working with the Software Freedom Conservancy, apparently

Re: [free-software-melb] CyanogenMod 7 on SGS2

2012-04-25 Thread Brian May
On 26 April 2012 12:58, Tim Cuthbertson wrote: > There's a note on that page that some apps can now be downloaded from > the marketplace, but it's important to realise that the marketplace > app itself is one such binary-only app that you can't legally get > unless it came with your phone. > > The

Re: [free-software-melb] ZaTab from ZaReason - a fully open Android tablet

2012-04-25 Thread Chris Samuel
On 26/04/12 11:53, Ben Finney wrote: > Chris Samuel writes: > > Chris, are you ordering one? I get annoyed with online stores that > insist I create an account in order merely to buy something, and > ZaReason appears to be yet another one of those. No, only interested in a netbook at the moment.

Re: [free-software-melb] CyanogenMod 7 on SGS2

2012-04-25 Thread Tim Cuthbertson
On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 11:19 PM, Chris Samuel wrote: > On Tuesday 27 March 2012 19:33:12 Russell Coker wrote: > >> Google has a set of binary-only proprietary apps for Android which >> can only be  installed by a hardware vendor who satisfies some >> Google conditions. > > That appears to no long

Re: [free-software-melb] ZaTab from ZaReason - a fully open Android tablet

2012-04-25 Thread Brian May
On 26 April 2012 11:53, Ben Finney wrote: > But, CyanogenMod isn't free software, remember; it has a higher > proportion of free software, but is still very much a non-free operating > system and AFAIK has all the non-free drivers as Android. AFAIK, Android itself is 100% open source software, en

Re: [free-software-melb] ZaTab from ZaReason - a fully open Android tablet

2012-04-25 Thread Ben Finney
Chris Samuel writes: > Sorry for being so quiet recently and missing meetings, a combination > of lots of work and some timetable clashes.. No-one is obligated to be chatty or quiet, so no apology necessary :-) > http://zareason.com/shop/zatab.html […] Chris, are you ordering one? I get annoye

[free-software-melb] ZaTab from ZaReason - a fully open Android tablet

2012-04-25 Thread Chris Samuel
Hi folks, Sorry for being so quiet recently and missing meetings, a combination of lots of work and some timetable clashes.. The US company ZaReason who build Linux systems (and are currently investigating opening a store in New Zealand) have been working on a fully open Android tablet for some t

Re: [free-software-melb] CyanogenMod 7 on SGS2

2012-04-25 Thread Chris Samuel
On Tuesday 27 March 2012 19:33:12 Russell Coker wrote: > Google has a set of binary-only proprietary apps for Android which > can only be installed by a hardware vendor who satisfies some > Google conditions. That appears to no longer be the case.. http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/Latest_Versio