Re: Serious breach of copyright -- First post

2006-06-19 Thread David Hoffman
Please note that they modified the page several times while I was involved in this discussion. That specific comment was about an old revision. However, the current version of the site still has a problem: while the HouFUG copyright notice could be in reference to the page and not the article,

Re: Fwd: Serious breach of copyright -- First post

2006-06-19 Thread Dennis Olvany
Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote: Dennis Olvany <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: The concept of a fact obviously may not be copyrighted because it is merely a concept. Barring descriptive literary devices, the facts may be copied at will in their expressed form. A photo, being a descriptive device, is cop

Re: Serious breach of copyright -- First post

2006-06-19 Thread Brett
On 6/19/06, Christopher Weldon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Brett wrote: > Obviously, you have never spent days trying out a relatively > undocumented procedure, finally getting it right, and then decided to > help others out by writing a howto documen

Re: Serious breach of copyright -- First post

2006-06-19 Thread Frank Laszlo
What does this entire thread have to do with freebsd user groups? Just because the allege copyright infringement is against such a group, doesn't mean everyone else has to hear about it. Please remove it from future CC's. Thanks. Regards, Frank __

Re: Serious breach of copyright -- First post

2006-06-19 Thread Christopher Weldon
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Brett wrote: > Obviously, you have never spent days trying out a relatively > undocumented procedure, finally getting it right, and then decided to > help others out by writing a howto document. I am perfectly happy > that Ingrid decided to host this

Re: Serious breach of copyright -- First post

2006-06-19 Thread Brett
On 6/19/06, Danial Thom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Its interesting that the same types of people who whine incessently about things like open source will get all worked up about a "copyright" on some stupid how-to "article". You know what they say; if its not worth money, you might as well get

Re: Serious breach of copyright -- First post

2006-06-19 Thread John Baldwin
On Sunday 18 June 2006 19:49, David Hoffman wrote: > * *It appears the page at > http://www.houfug.org/help/install_freebsd.htmconstitutes a serious > breach of copyright. The article, which was > originally written and posted to the Internet by the owner of the account > [EMAIL PROTECTED], is fal

Re: Fwd: Serious breach of copyright -- First post

2006-06-19 Thread Dag-Erling Smørgrav
Dennis Olvany <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The concept of a fact obviously may not be copyrighted because it is > merely a concept. Barring descriptive literary devices, the facts may be > copied at will in their expressed form. A photo, being a descriptive > device, is copyrightable. Consideri

Re: Serious breach of copyright -- First post

2006-06-19 Thread Danial Thom
--- David Hoffman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Update: their website now attributes copyright > to both HouFUG AND Brett. > This is despite the fact that Brett seems to be > the sole owner of the work. > I'm not sure why this community feels it can > disregard rights to > intellectual property,

Re: Fwd: Serious breach of copyright -- First post

2006-06-19 Thread Dennis Olvany
facts are not eligible for copyright. plain facts are not copyrightable, as you point out, their expression certainly is. The concept of a fact obviously may not be copyrighted because it is merely a concept. Barring descriptive literary devices, the facts may be copied at will in their exp

Re: Fwd: Serious breach of copyright -- First post

2006-06-19 Thread Dag-Erling Smørgrav
Dennis Olvany <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I had a look at http://www.houfug.org/help/install_freebsd.htm and I am > afraid that you will find this article is not eligible for copyright. It > constitutes neither an artistic nor literary work. The article conveys > only facts and facts are not elig

Re: Serious breach of copyright -- First post

2006-06-19 Thread Dag-Erling Smørgrav
"David Hoffman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > It'll certainly be less confusing that what HouFUG is publishing. They've > now noted on their site that it was written by you. However, they STILL > claim they own the copyright. No, they claim a copyright for their site, which is perfectly valid -