The future of NetBSD

2006-08-30 Thread Charles M. Hannum
The NetBSD Project has stagnated to the point of irrelevance. It has gotten to the point that being associated with the project is often more of a liability than an asset. I will attempt to explain how this happened, what the current state of affairs is, and what needs to be done to attempt to

Re: The future of NetBSD

2006-08-30 Thread Jeff Rollin
On 31/08/06, Charles M. Hannum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The NetBSD Project has stagnated to the point of irrelevance. If true, unfortunate. A sad day. Jeff. ___ freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list

Re: The future of NetBSD

2006-08-30 Thread Andy Ball
Hello Charles, Some parts of your message seemed to be flames resulting from some past personality conflict that I know nothing about, so I won't comment further on those. Clearly you are more familiar with BSD internals than I am. I imagine others will pickup various technical points such as

Re: The future of NetBSD

2006-08-30 Thread Marian Hettwer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Charles, Charles M. Hannum wrote: popularity in 1993 and 1994) have suffered similar problems. FreeBSD and XFree86, for example, have both forked successor projects (Dragonfly and X.org) for very similar reasons. I don't agree that Dragonfly

Re: The future of NetBSD

2006-08-30 Thread Breen Ouellette
Charles M. Hannum wrote: [I'm CCing this to FreeBSD and OpenBSD lists in order to share it with the wider *BSD community, not to start a flame war. I hope that people reading it have the tact to be respectful of their peers, and consider how some of these issues may apply to them as well.]

Re: The future of NetBSD

2006-08-30 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Breen Ouellette wrote on Wed, Aug 30, 2006 at 08:22:59PM -0600: This really isn't relevant to OpenBSD, [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ head -n2 /var/run/dmesg.boot OpenBSD 3.9-stable (GENERIC) #2: Wed Aug 30 16:53:43 CEST 2006 [EMAIL

RE: The future of NetBSD

2006-08-30 Thread Tony
Andy Ruhl wrote: On 8/30/06, Charles M. Hannum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The NetBSD Project has stagnated to the point of irrelevance. It has Let me start by saying I'm probably not qualified to reply to this thread, but I was never worried about making a fool out of myself before so