RE: Fwd: Serious breach of copyright -- First post

2006-06-20 Thread David Schwartz
> I had a look at http://www.houfug.org/help/install_freebsd.htm and I am > afraid that you will find this article is not eligible for copyright. It > constitutes neither an artistic nor literary work. The article conveys > only facts and facts are not eligible for copyright. Wow, you are

Re: Fwd: Serious breach of copyright -- First post

2006-06-20 Thread Dag-Erling Smørgrav
Dennis Olvany <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Dag-Erling Smørgrav <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > You are wrong. The method or process is patentable. A written > > description of the method or process is copyrightable. > > howto change oil > 1. remove oil cap > 2. drain oil > 3. remove filter > 4.

Re: Fwd: Serious breach of copyright -- First post

2006-06-20 Thread Dennis Olvany
Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote: Dennis Olvany <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Johnathan Michaels hit on the next point I would like to make and that is the distinction between patent and copyright. A method or process may be patented, but the factual written procedure of such may not be copyrighted. I'll

Re: Fwd: Serious breach of copyright -- First post

2006-06-20 Thread Kevin Brunelle
On Sunday 18 June 2006 21:54, David Hoffman wrote: > However, most of what you wrote is incorrect. Are you seriously trying to > tell us that the author's name is 'Brett Soupman'? That seems like a > pseudonym at best. It's hardly clear he's given you permission to republish > the work, let alone

Re: Fwd: Serious breach of copyright -- First post

2006-06-20 Thread Dag-Erling Smørgrav
Dennis Olvany <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Johnathan Michaels hit on the next point I would like to make and > that is the distinction between patent and copyright. A method or > process may be patented, but the factual written procedure of such > may not be copyrighted. I'll follow up with some e

Re: Fwd: Serious breach of copyright -- First post

2006-06-19 Thread Dennis Olvany
Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote: Dennis Olvany <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: The concept of a fact obviously may not be copyrighted because it is merely a concept. Barring descriptive literary devices, the facts may be copied at will in their expressed form. A photo, being a descriptive device, is cop

Re: Fwd: Serious breach of copyright -- First post

2006-06-19 Thread Dag-Erling Smørgrav
Dennis Olvany <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The concept of a fact obviously may not be copyrighted because it is > merely a concept. Barring descriptive literary devices, the facts may be > copied at will in their expressed form. A photo, being a descriptive > device, is copyrightable. Consideri

Re: Fwd: Serious breach of copyright -- First post

2006-06-19 Thread Dennis Olvany
facts are not eligible for copyright. plain facts are not copyrightable, as you point out, their expression certainly is. The concept of a fact obviously may not be copyrighted because it is merely a concept. Barring descriptive literary devices, the facts may be copied at will in their exp

Re: Fwd: Serious breach of copyright -- First post

2006-06-19 Thread Dag-Erling Smørgrav
Dennis Olvany <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I had a look at http://www.houfug.org/help/install_freebsd.htm and I am > afraid that you will find this article is not eligible for copyright. It > constitutes neither an artistic nor literary work. The article conveys > only facts and facts are not elig

Re: Fwd: Fwd: Fwd: Serious breach of copyright -- First post

2006-06-18 Thread Dennis Olvany
David Hoffman wrote: Now, even if you're correct that Brett doesn't have a valid copyright (which he does) and that unspecified entities unknown own the copyright to the article (which they don't), we still have the same problem: FreeBSD claiming to own something they don't, and

Fwd: Serious breach of copyright -- First post

2006-06-18 Thread David Hoffman
-- Forwarded message -- From: David Hoffman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Jun 18, 2006 10:27 PM Subject: Re: Serious breach of copyright -- First post To: Dennis Olvany <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> While your mocking post is certainly intended to bolster your point, it instead bolsters mine.

Fwd: Fwd: Fwd: Serious breach of copyright -- First post

2006-06-18 Thread David Hoffman
On 6/18/06, David Hoffman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 6/18/06, Dennis Olvany <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> ...facts are not eligible for copyright. > > > I'm afraid you're incorrect. The work in question is indeed > copyrightable > > under the Berne Convention, which many countries have ra

Re: Fwd: Serious breach of copyright -- First post

2006-06-18 Thread David Hoffman
bsd-questions@freebsd.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; thisdayislong; [EMAIL PROTECTED] *Subject:* Re: Fwd: Serious breach of copyright -- First post On 6/18/06, Dennis Olvany <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I had a look at http://www.houfug.org/help/install_freebsd.htm and I am > afraid that you

RE: Fwd: Serious breach of copyright -- First post

2006-06-18 Thread Ingrid Kast Fuller
ED]; thisdayislong; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Fwd: Serious breach of copyright -- First post On 6/18/06, Dennis Olvany <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I had a look at http://www.houfug.org/help/install_freebsd.htm and I am afraid that you will find this article is not eligible for copy

Re: Fwd: Serious breach of copyright -- First post

2006-06-18 Thread David Hoffman
On 6/18/06, Dennis Olvany <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I had a look at http://www.houfug.org/help/install_freebsd.htm and I am afraid that you will find this article is not eligible for copyright. It constitutes neither an artistic nor literary work. The article conveys only facts and facts are no

Re: Fwd: Serious breach of copyright -- First post

2006-06-18 Thread Dennis Olvany
I had a look at http://www.houfug.org/help/install_freebsd.htm and I am afraid that you will find this article is not eligible for copyright. It constitutes neither an artistic nor literary work. The article conveys only facts and facts are not eligible for copyright. _

Re: Fwd: Serious breach of copyright -- First post

2006-06-18 Thread Joe Holden
Joe Holden wrote: > David Hoffman wrote: > >> -- Forwarded message -- >> From: David Hoffman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Date: Jun 18, 2006 8:38 PM >> Subject: Re: Serious breach of copyright -- First post >> To: Brett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >> I think a formal apology should be issue

Re: Fwd: Serious breach of copyright -- First post

2006-06-18 Thread Joe Holden
David Hoffman wrote: > -- Forwarded message -- > From: David Hoffman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Jun 18, 2006 8:38 PM > Subject: Re: Serious breach of copyright -- First post > To: Brett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > I think a formal apology should be issued by the infringers. > > Hasn't

Fwd: Serious breach of copyright -- First post

2006-06-18 Thread David Hoffman
-- Forwarded message -- From: David Hoffman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Jun 18, 2006 8:38 PM Subject: Re: Serious breach of copyright -- First post To: Brett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I think a formal apology should be issued by the infringers. Hasn't this gone on long enough? On 6/18/