Re: strace broken in 7.0?

2008-01-11 Thread Dag-Erling Smørgrav
[moved from -current to -chat] Timo Schoeler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Part of the discussion on bsdforen.de was some people complaining that parts of the base system (as well as [important] ports) do not work, and are maintained very badly due to 'no interest'. Those people clearly don't

Re: strace broken in 7.0?

2008-01-11 Thread Timo Schoeler
Thus Dag-Erling Smørgrav [EMAIL PROTECTED] spake on Fri, 11 Jan 2008 11:56:55 +0100: [moved from -current to -chat] Timo Schoeler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Part of the discussion on bsdforen.de was some people complaining that parts of the base system (as well as [important] ports) do not

Re: strace broken in 7.0?

2008-01-11 Thread Timo Schoeler
Thus Dag-Erling Smørgrav [EMAIL PROTECTED] spake on Fri, 11 Jan 2008 15:01:59 +0100: Timo Schoeler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Years ago there were mature guys coding and doing a *very* good job. Nowadays it seems that they code to impress their girlfriends. As said, join the Linux gang.

Re: strace broken in 7.0?

2008-01-11 Thread Dag-Erling Smørgrav
Timo Schoeler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dag-Erling Smørgrav [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I will give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that you did not realize how insulting this is to someone who has spent the last ten years of his life writing the operating system that you use for

Re: strace broken in 7.0?

2008-01-11 Thread Dag-Erling Smørgrav
Dag-Erling Smørgrav [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I will give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that you did not realize how insulting this is to someone who has spent the last ten years of his life writing the operating system that you use for free. Having gotten that off my chest and

Re: strace broken in 7.0?

2008-01-11 Thread Matthew D. Fuller
On Fri, Jan 11, 2008 at 03:49:41PM +0100 I heard the voice of Dag-Erling Smørgrav, and lo! it spake thus: By the way, as far as I know, FreeBSD already runs on machines with a non-power-of-two number of cores: - I've still got a 6-way PPro motherboard in the closet upstairs (and a

Re: strace broken in 7.0?

2008-01-11 Thread Kris Kennaway
Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote: By the way, as far as I know, FreeBSD already runs on machines with a non-power-of-two number of cores: - The AMD Opteron architecture supports an arbitrary number of cores in a HyperTransport ring; there are triple-socket Opteron motherboards, and AMD is

Re: strace broken in 7.0?

2008-01-11 Thread Timo Schoeler
Thus Dag-Erling Smørgrav [EMAIL PROTECTED] spake on Fri, 11 Jan 2008 15:51:49 +0100: Timo Schoeler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dag-Erling Smørgrav [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I will give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that you did not realize how insulting this is to someone who has

Re: strace broken in 7.0?

2008-01-11 Thread Timo Schoeler
Thus Dag-Erling Smørgrav [EMAIL PROTECTED] spake on Fri, 11 Jan 2008 15:49:41 +0100: Dag-Erling Smørgrav [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I will give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that you did not realize how insulting this is to someone who has spent the last ten years of his life

Re: strace broken in 7.0?

2008-01-11 Thread Marian Hettwer
On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 08:34:28 -0500, Aryeh M. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you do not understand this, you will be more comfortable using commercial software. However, I suspect you will find that commercial software developers are even *less* responsive to your needs. As several

Re: strace broken in 7.0?

2008-01-11 Thread Dag-Erling Smørgrav
Timo Schoeler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dag-Erling Smørgrav [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Those people clearly don't understand the FreeBSD development model. So, the FreeBSD development model does neither care in case the tree breaks (read: is unbuildable, or in the direction of being

Re: strace broken in 7.0?

2008-01-11 Thread Timo Schoeler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Thus Dag-Erling Smørgrav [EMAIL PROTECTED] spake on Fri, 11 Jan 2008 14:22:48 +0100: Timo Schoeler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dag-Erling Smørgrav [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Those people clearly don't understand the FreeBSD development model.

Re: strace broken in 7.0?

2008-01-11 Thread Oliver Fromme
Timo Schoeler wrote: Matthew D. Fuller wrote: Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote: By the way, as far as I know, FreeBSD already runs on machines with a non-power-of-two number of cores: - I've still got a 6-way PPro motherboard in the closet upstairs (and a number of such ran

Re: strace broken in 7.0?

2008-01-11 Thread Aryeh M. Friedman
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 If you do not understand this, you will be more comfortable using commercial software. However, I suspect you will find that commercial software developers are even *less* responsive to your needs. As several people (besides me) have pointed

Re: strace broken in 7.0?

2008-01-11 Thread Dag-Erling Smørgrav
Timo Schoeler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dag-Erling Smørgrav [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Timo Schoeler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dag-Erling Smørgrav [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Plurium Interrogationum. Your question presupposes that FreeBSD is or will soon be unbuildable and / or that