Hi:
Here are the kernel.full files some of you asked for. Let me know what else
may be helpful to test.
Thanks!
Michael Jung
Notes below * (UPDATED)
* Started fresh
Installed FreeBSD-14.0-CURRENT-amd64-20220113-0910a41ef3b-252413-disc1.iso
with its accompany source tree. Built
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To: off...@freebsd.org Sent:
Wednesday, June 30, 2021, 10:42:48 AM GMT+2Subject: Problem building openoffice
Good morning, I get the following error while
attempting to update openoffice-4 on amd64 arc on
Begin forwarded message:
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2020 14:06:12 +0200
From: "O. Hartmann"
To: Matthew Macy
Cc: freebsd-current , freebsd-fs
, freebsd-hack...@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OpenZFS
support merged: problem mounting ZFS within JAILs
On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 19:38:53 -0700
Matthew Macy wrote:
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Wednesday, October 3, 2018, 9:46:59 AM GMT+2Subject: Re: Problem starting Xorg
My mobo is a asus M4A87TD I enclose the files requiredthank youFilippo
On Tuesday, October 2, 2018, 8:28:32 PM GMT+2, Niclas
- Forwarded Message - From: Filippo Moretti
To: FreeBSD Current Sent:
Friday, September 29, 2017, 6:42:26 PM GMT+2Subject: Problem with buildkernel
After buildworld of yesterday the buildkernel fails with the following
- Forwarded Message -From: Michael Butler
To: Filippo Moretti ;
Current Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2017, 4:50:13 PM
GMT+2Subject: Re: Problem with make installworld et alii
You need to a build newer than SVN r320652
Hi all,
I have some weird issues compiling software on a Linux client on a nfs
directory served by FreeBSD 10 from a SSD-based RaidZ1. We are not sure
yet what is actually going wrong, but it may be connected to make seeing
wrong timestamps and thus compiling again during the install stage.
I did
hi, all:
i used to use pkgdb -Ff along with old wonderful pkg_whatever to keep my
freebsd station healthy. but i was told the new era of pkg is coming and so i
made switch to pkgng.
the question is: what is the equivalent of pkgdb -Ff? for pkg?
for pkgdb -Ff, i am especially fond of its
On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 2:15 PM, Matthew Rezny matt...@reztek.cz wrote:
Forwarded because my attempt to reply on list was rejected by
heavy-handed and oblivious moderation:
The freebsd-current mailing list is for issues involving
FreeBSD-CURRENT, not FreeBSD-STABLE. Neither FreeBSD 9.x nor
Em Mon, 16 Sep 2013 17:53:06 -0700, John-Mark Gurney escreveu
Nilton Jose Rizzo wrote this message on Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 20:26 -0300:
Em Mon, 16 Sep 2013 16:07:28 -0700, John-Mark Gurney escreveu
Nilton Jose Rizzo wrote this message on Sun, Sep 15, 2013 at 13:14 -0300:
Last
В Tue, 21 May 2013 12:00:54 -0500
Brooks Davis bro...@freebsd.org пишет:
I belive this is now fixed in r250859. Sorry about the breakage.
-- Brooks
Unfortunately it did not fix the error when building the world.
I still watch an error like this:
--- /usr/bin/ld: this linker was not
On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 11:08:56AM +0300, Ivan Klymenko wrote:
?? Tue, 21 May 2013 12:00:54 -0500
Brooks Davis bro...@freebsd.org ??:
I belive this is now fixed in r250859. Sorry about the breakage.
-- Brooks
Unfortunately it did not fix the error when building the world.
-Original Message-
From: Michael Vale
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2012 8:57 AM
To: Adrian Chadd
Subject: Re: FreeBSD in Google Code-In 2012? You can help too!
oh i only replied to you, not the thread.
I have some ideas though...
-Original Message-
From: Adrian Chadd
On 10/24/2012 4:57 PM, Michael Vale wrote:
-Original Message- From: Michael Vale Sent: Thursday, October
25, 2012 8:57 AM To: Adrian Chadd Subject: Re: FreeBSD in Google Code-In
2012? You can help too!
oh i only replied to you, not the thread.
I have some ideas though...
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From: Rodrigo OSORIO rodr...@bebik.net
Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2012 17:14:21 +0200
To: gahn ipfr...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: packages that can generate arp storm
User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i
On 04/04/12 07:33 -0700, gahn wrote:
hi, gurus:
If you updated after pc-sysinstall was committed, but before this
commit, you'll have a stray /pc-sysinstall. It can and should be
deleted.
Warner
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Date: Sun Jun 27 17:14:04 2010
New Revision: 209554
URL: http://svn.freebsd.org/changeset/base/209554
Log:
-Original Message-
From: Pegasus Mc Cleaft [mailto:k...@mthelicon.com]
Sent: 23 March 2010 09:57
To: 'Alexander Best'
Subject: RE: build failures after stdlib update
-Original Message-
2. i wasn't able to reproduce your `make -V MACHINE_CPU -DCPUTYPE=native`
examples. for me
Hi,
I was adviced to forward here, so that more poeple
can see it. It was originally posted to fs@ and [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Regards,
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Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 01:42:18 +0900
From: R. Imura [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [patch] combine
my verbose dmesg is in attached zip file, from today.
my disks are connected with sata - pata converter based on marvel 88i8030
and one more question about ata3 and cable 40 wires, the cable actually is
serial ata cable, not the 40 wires pata cable.
and why it doesn't say then same thing about
On a busy ftp site it was noticed that natd stopped punching ftp data
session after some time, it was leaking the fw rule numbers allocated
for punching. This happens if the ftp clients or ftp servers TCP layer
was retransmitting the PORT/EPRT or the passive replies or as a DoS
from a malicious
Ups, there you go when not testing your last optimization, it is
required that a fw rule number is allocated for partial connections
so the fix is just:
in libalias/alias_db.c in PunchFWHole add the following after the
initial packetAliasMode test:
ClearFWHole(link);
/FK
Harald,
When in doubt, install freebsd 5.x on a different drive running off of a
different controller, mount the slices from one of the disks in the RAID
array and copy your data to a safe and trusted location.
Regards,
Andre Guibert de Bruet | Enterprise Software Consultant
Silicon
Andre Guibert de Bruet wrote:
Harald,
When in doubt, install freebsd 5.x on a different drive running off of a
different controller, mount the slices from one of the disks in the RAID
array and copy your data to a safe and trusted location.
Thanks for the hint, I did something like that.
*snip*
Now the controller warns me that one drive is bad (which in fact is
definatley not) and allows me to select continue boot
If the controler says it's bad, it may well be.
Now please give me a hint what to do. This is my brand new
fileserver which
collected all improtant data
the error that I was receiving was due the default directory of config was
../../ and it was incorrect you must specify the FQP of the kernel you are
building and then make depend will work fine.. Thanks
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From: Travis Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Looks like this email didn't make it to the mailing list. I've not tried the solution
yet, but I figured everyone would like to see this.
James.
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Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 18:14:32 +0900
From: Yoshinori KASAZAKI [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: James Satterfield [EMAIL PROTECTED]
At Thu, 6 Feb 2003 12:15:38 +0100 (CET),
Michael Reifenberger wrote:
On Wed, 5 Feb 2003, Michael Reifenberger wrote:
...
I have improved recovery code after timeout in -current.
Could you try that?
Is scheduled for this evening.
Thanks so far!
...
- fwcontorl -g 20
-
On Fri, 7 Feb 2003, Hidetoshi Shimokawa wrote:
...
Do you have any timeout while the test?
No. Not any longer.
I think SBP_QUEUE_LEN or maxopenings is the important parameter.
Can you try to change thoes values?
The are at their defaults at the moment.
Do you want me to increase them?
Bye!
At Fri, 7 Feb 2003 10:56:33 +0100 (CET),
Michael Reifenberger wrote:
On Fri, 7 Feb 2003, Hidetoshi Shimokawa wrote:
...
Do you have any timeout while the test?
No. Not any longer.
I think SBP_QUEUE_LEN or maxopenings is the important parameter.
Can you try to change thoes values?
On Wed, 5 Feb 2003, Michael Reifenberger wrote:
...
I have improved recovery code after timeout in -current.
Could you try that?
Is scheduled for this evening.
Thanks so far!
...
- fwcontorl -g 20
- sysctl hw.firewire.sbp.max_speed=0
- change SBP_QUEUE_LEN in sbp.c to 1 and
On Wed, 5 Feb 2003, Hidetoshi Shimokawa wrote:
Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2003 12:07:05 +0900
From: Hidetoshi Shimokawa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: mike [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Hidetoshi Shimokawa [EMAIL PROTECTED],
FreeBSD-Current [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: -current, IBM A30p 2 external FW-disks
I have improved recovery code after timeout in -current.
Could you try that?
/\ Hidetoshi Shimokawa
\/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
PGP public key: http://www.sat.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp/~simokawa/pgp.html
At Sun, 2 Feb 2003 13:28:33 +0200,
mike wrote:
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On Thu, 30 Jan 2003
On Thu, 30 Jan 2003 14:41:59 +0900, Hidetoshi Shimokawa wrote
Do you get timeout only for sbp0:0:0?
Is the other drive still working?
I have no problem with concurrent accesses with `iozone -s 102400m -r
1024k`.
...
try some of the following:
- fwcontorl -g 20
- sysctl
At Sun, 2 Feb 2003 13:28:33 +0200,
mike wrote:
try some of the following:
- fwcontorl -g 20
- sysctl hw.firewire.sbp.max_speed=0
- change SBP_QUEUE_LEN in sbp.c to 1 and rebuld module.
- sysctl machdep.cpu_idle_hlt=0
- sysctl debug.sbp_debug=1 and send me a dmesg.
with
external FW-disks
Do you get timeout only for sbp0:0:0?
Is the other drive still working?
yes, no.
I have no problem with concurrent accesses with `iozone -s 102400m -r
1024k`.
Me too when only with one drive at a time.
Since they'r new, HW-defects are not impossible...
try some
Do you get timeout only for sbp0:0:0?
Is the other drive still working?
I have no problem with concurrent accesses with `iozone -s 102400m -r
1024k`.
tty ad0 da0 da1
tin tout KB/t tps MB/s KB/t tps MB/s KB/t tps MB/s
21 360 0.00 0 0.00
Hi,
I have the following scenario:
A30p == disk1 == disk2
disk1 and disk2 are identical 200GB disks in an extarnal ICE-cube case.
My dmesg output is attached.
After creating and mounting them as UFS2 filesystems under /mnt/a /mnt/b
and starting a `iozone -s 102400m -r 1024k` in parallel under
In message 006501c29d44$33a8e980$2603fb93@kloboucek, Petr Holub writes:
Hi Poul,
there's discussion in the -current list which we
had before a while. I think answer to this is
'yes' but I'm not 100% sure so I wanted to check
it with you.
Thanks very much,
Petr
[...]
I've discussed this issue
On Fri, 6 Dec 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[...]
I've discussed this issue with Poul-Henning Kamp. You need fsck
from at least 4.7.
Is this handled by fsck/setup.c,v 1.17.2.4 commit?
Yes, this looks like the correct commit.
--
Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Nate Lawson wri
tes:
On Fri, 6 Dec 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[...]
I've discussed this issue with Poul-Henning Kamp. You need fsck
from at least 4.7.
Is this handled by fsck/setup.c,v 1.17.2.4 commit?
Yes, this looks like the correct commit.
--
As Nate kindly pointed out, my laptop needed a BIOS upgrade. With the
upgrade, I can boot fine with ACPI enabled, although some
sleep/suspend/resume stuff doesn't work right. Nate's already reported
that.
Thanks,
Matt
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Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 10:16 PM
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This file was recently removed from
Jeff , (current included because it may be an interesting answer)
As you know I'm using UMA to allocate threads and cache them.
The 'constructor methods allow me to allocated threads that have been
pre-set up with thread stacks and other special items.
When they are being cached they
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Do we have anyone working on the VM system that could look at this?
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Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 12:49:10 -0400 (EDT)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Wietse Venema)
To: Postfix users [EMAIL
Hi,
Is there any way to impliment dl_open in our nsswitch for -current so
that samba's winbindd can work on FreeBSD?
no.
There are plans to write a nssd proxy deamon for FreeBSD which does support
loadable modules. I'll make nectar and my plans available in the next time.
The goal is the
Martin Blapp wrote:
Is there any way to impliment dl_open in our nsswitch for -current so
that samba's winbindd can work on FreeBSD?
no.
It's actually not that hard to write a libdlopen that
mmap's exectuable the ld.so itself, and then does manual
lookup of the dl entry points, providing
hi, there!
On Wed, Feb 13, 2002 at 03:55:28AM -0800, Terry Lambert wrote:
Is there any way to impliment dl_open in our nsswitch for -current so
that samba's winbindd can work on FreeBSD?
no.
It's actually not that hard to write a libdlopen that
mmap's exectuable the ld.so itself,
Max Khon wrote:
On Wed, Feb 13, 2002 at 03:55:28AM -0800, Terry Lambert wrote:
Is there any way to impliment dl_open in our nsswitch for -current so
that samba's winbindd can work on FreeBSD?
no.
It's actually not that hard to write a libdlopen that
mmap's exectuable the
It's actually not that hard to write a libdlopen that
mmap's exectuable the ld.so itself, and then does manual
lookup of the dl entry points, providing symbols for them
which are actually externed functions wrapping dereferenced
function pointers.
It's just that no one has
Is there any way to impliment dl_open in our nsswitch for -current so
that samba's winbindd can work on FreeBSD?
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Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 11:29:24 +1030
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From: Richard Sharpe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To:
The following is the output of usbdevs -v
# usbdevs -v
Controller /dev/usb0:
addr 1: self powered, config 1, UHCI root hub(0x), VIA(0x),
rev
0x0100
port 1 powered
port 2 powered
This is with the mouse attached?
If it doesn't even show up, that would point
Try [EMAIL PROTECTED] for more information.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jim Bryant
Sent: 20 September 2001 15:19
To: Konstantin Chuguev
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: USB Multimedia Card (MMC) readers
World broke?
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Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 08:37:39 -0700 (PDT)
From: Deimos Root [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Snapshot Log
cc -nostdinc -O -pipe
-I/usr/src/lib/libpam/libpam/../../../contrib/libpam/libpam/include
-I/usr/src/lib
It looks like the recent changes wrt to libpam in telnetd may have broken world.
-FW: [EMAIL PROTECTED]-
Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 09:11:57 -0700 (PDT)
From: Deimos Root [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Snapshot Log
=== libexec/telnetd
cc -O -pipe
On 10-May-01 John Baldwin wrote:
It looks like the recent changes wrt to libpam in telnetd may have broken
world.
Correction, world appears to be ok, just release is broken.
--
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PGP Key: http://www.baldwin.cx/~john/pgpkey.asc
On Thu, 10 May 2001, John Baldwin wrote:
It looks like the recent changes wrt to libpam in telnetd may have broken world.
...
cc -O -pipe -DLINEMODE -DUSE_TERMIO -DDIAGNOSTICS -DOLD_ENVIRON -DENV_HACK
-DAUTHENTICATION -DENCRYPTION -I/usr/src/kerberos
On Fri, 11 May 2001 03:16:35 +1000 (EST), Bruce Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
The kerberosIV telnetd is missing linkage to libpam, perhaps
more.
The kerberosIV telnet and telnetd are missing linkage to libpam, for
about three days. Just adding that lib makes it work ...
--
Michael
=== libpam/modules/pam_tacplus
cc -O -pipe -Wall
-I/usr/src/lib/libpam/modules/pam_tacplus/../../../../contrib/libpam/libpam/incl
ude -I/usr/src/lib/libpam/mo
dules/pam_tacplus/../../libpam -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c
/usr/src/lib/libpam/modules/pam_tacplus/pam_tacplus.c -o
Doug Barton wrote:
Alfred Perlstein wrote:
I'm figuring the only time when it may be a problem is on machines
with a small amount of memory. Since memory is cheap, I plan on
turning it on within the next couple of days unless a stability
issue comes up.
I'll leave it to those
Alfred Perlstein wrote:
* Maxim Sobolev [EMAIL PROTECTED] [010419 05:48] wrote:
Doug Barton wrote:
Alfred Perlstein wrote:
I'm figuring the only time when it may be a problem is on machines
with a small amount of memory. Since memory is cheap, I plan on
turning it on
* Maxim Sobolev [EMAIL PROTECTED] [010419 06:20] wrote:
OOPS, I see. See updated patch.
Looks ok.
Index: Makefile
===
RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/etc/Makefile,v
retrieving revision 1.248
diff -d -u -r1.248 Makefile
---
On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 03:46:39PM +0300, Maxim Sobolev wrote:
What do you think about attached patch?
-Maxim
Index: Makefile
===
RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/etc/Makefile,v
retrieving revision 1.248
diff -d -u -r1.248
Maxim Sobolev wrote:
What do you think about attached patch?
Definitely the right idea, however I'm waiting on input from a couple
people on some additional suggestions, so if you'd hold off I'd appreciate
it.
--
"One thing they don't tell you about doing experimental physics is
Doug Barton wrote:
Maxim Sobolev wrote:
What do you think about attached patch?
Definitely the right idea, however I'm waiting on input from a couple
people on some additional suggestions, so if you'd hold off I'd appreciate
it.
Unfortunately I've already cvs ci it. :(
:
:What do you think about attached patch?
:
:-Maxim
mmm.. I think it would just confuse the issue and prevent us from
being able to change the kernel default trivially. 99.5% of the
FreeBSD boxes out there are just going to want it to be on by default.
We could provide a
Matt Dillon wrote:
:
:What do you think about attached patch?
:
:-Maxim
mmm.. I think it would just confuse the issue and prevent us from
being able to change the kernel default trivially. 99.5% of the
FreeBSD boxes out there are just going to want it to be on by default.
:But we already have sysctl.conf and appropriate rc.sysctl, haven't we? What's
:wrong with putting some useful payload into it?
:
:-Maxim
If it's commented out, it's fine.
-Matt
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:But we already have sysctl.conf and appropriate rc.sysctl, haven't we? What's
:wrong with putting some useful payload into it?
:
:-Maxim
Let me explain a little more. If it's commented out, it's fine. But
if you are actually setting a value in there you will override whatever
is
On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 10:39:58 -0700, Matt Dillon wrote:
:But we already have sysctl.conf and appropriate rc.sysctl, haven't we? What's
:wrong with putting some useful payload into it?
:
:-Maxim
Let me explain a little more. If it's commented out, it's fine. But
if you are
: set that default in stone and prevent us from being able to change
: it with a new kernel rev. This being a *kernel* specific feature,
: we need to have control over the default in the kernel itself.
:
:What about simple check in the kernel: if total memory is above 64Mb, then
On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 10:47:20 -0700, Matt Dillon wrote:
: set that default in stone and prevent us from being able to change
: it with a new kernel rev. This being a *kernel* specific feature,
: we need to have control over the default in the kernel itself.
:
:What about
On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, Andrey A. Chernov wrote:
On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 10:39:58 -0700, Matt Dillon wrote:
Let me explain a little more. If it's commented out, it's fine. But
if you are actually setting a value in there you will override whatever
is set in the kernel. When
-On [20010417 20:47], Matt Dillon ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
Testing it 'on' in stable on production systems and observing the
relative change in performance is a worthy experiment. Testing it
'on' in current is just an experiment.
I have been running vfs.vmiodirenable=1 on two
-On [20010418 01:00], Alfred Perlstein ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
(although afaik we're basing it on both Solaris and BSD/os's
implementation so... well I'm not going to bother defending it.)
You just scared the shit out of me by mentioning Solaris.
I've found Solaris to be a PITA with all
On Wed, 18 Apr 2001, Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai wrote:
-On [20010417 20:47], Matt Dillon ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
Testing it 'on' in stable on production systems and observing the
relative change in performance is a worthy experiment. Testing it
'on' in current is just an
-On [20010418 14:38], Bruce Evans ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
[vfs.vmiodirenable]
So, how much slower was it? ;-)
Not noticeable for me at least.
--
Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven/Asmodai --=-- asmodai@[wxs.nl|freebsd.org]
Documentation nutter/C-rated Coder BSD: Technical excellence at its
On 18 Apr 2001, at 22:16, Bruce Evans wrote:
On Wed, 18 Apr 2001, Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai wrote:
-On [20010417 20:47], Matt Dillon ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
Testing it 'on' in stable on production systems and observing the
relative change in performance is a worthy experiment.
On Tue, 17 Apr 2001, Doug Barton wrote:
OK... this brings up the question of what other cool optimizations are
there that may have been disabled in the past for reasons that are no
longer pertinent? It might be worthwhile to create an /etc/sysctl.conf file
with commented out examples
Matt Dillon wrote:
It is not implying that at all. There is no black and white here.
This is a case where spending a huge amount of time and complexity
to get the efficiency down to the Nth degree is nothing but a waste
of time. What matters is what the user sees, what
* Doug Barton [EMAIL PROTECTED] [010417 01:08] wrote:
Matt Dillon wrote:
It is not implying that at all. There is no black and white here.
This is a case where spending a huge amount of time and complexity
to get the efficiency down to the Nth degree is nothing but a waste
* Matt Dillon [EMAIL PROTECTED] [010415 23:16] wrote:
For example, all this work on a preemptive
kernel is just insane. Our entire kernel is built on the concept of
not being preemptable except by interrupts. We virtually guarentee
years of
Alfred Perlstein wrote:
I'm figuring the only time when it may be a problem is on machines
with a small amount of memory. Since memory is cheap, I plan on
turning it on within the next couple of days unless a stability
issue comes up.
I'll leave it to those people with low memory to
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 12:34:39 -0700 (PDT)
From: John Baldwin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
=== usr.sbin/pcvt/vttest
cc -O -pipe -traditional -DUSEMYSTTY -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c
/usr/src/usr.sbin/pcvt/vttest/main.c
cc -O -pipe -traditional -DUSEMYSTTY
:
:There's actually very little code that non-premptable once we get the
:kernel mutexed. The least complex way to accomplish this is to only
:preempt kernel processes that hold no mutex (low level) locks.
:
:--
:-Alfred Perlstein - [[EMAIL PROTECTED]|[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
I wish it were that
You need to settle dude, pre-emption isn't a goal, it's mearly a
_possible_ side effect.
We're not aiming for pre-emption, we're aiming for more concurrancy.
* Matt Dillon [EMAIL PROTECTED] [010417 13:51] wrote:
:
:There's actually very little code that non-premptable once we get the
:
:You need to settle dude, pre-emption isn't a goal, it's mearly a
:_possible_ side effect.
:
:We're not aiming for pre-emption, we're aiming for more concurrancy.
A goal of having more concurrency is laudable, but I think you are
ignoring the costs of doing task switches verses the
On Tue, 17 Apr 2001, Matt Dillon wrote:
:You need to settle dude, pre-emption isn't a goal, it's mearly a
:_possible_ side effect.
:
:We're not aiming for pre-emption, we're aiming for more concurrancy.
A goal of having more concurrency is laudable, but I think you are
ignoring
* Matt Dillon [EMAIL PROTECTED] [010417 14:07] wrote:
:
:You need to settle dude, pre-emption isn't a goal, it's mearly a
:_possible_ side effect.
:
:We're not aiming for pre-emption, we're aiming for more concurrancy.
A goal of having more concurrency is laudable, but I think you
:Once the mutexes are in place the underlying implementation can
:change pretty easily from task switching always to only task
:switching when the mutex is owned by the same CPU that I'm running
:on. (to avoid spinlock deadlock)
That makes *NO* *SENSE* Alfred! So the first step is to
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 14:52:06 -0700
From: Alfred Perlstein [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Disclaimer: I am not a kernel hacker.
The goal is to have a kernel that's able to have more concurrancy,
Right...
things like pre-emption and task switching on mutex collisions can
be examined and possibly
* Matt Dillon [EMAIL PROTECTED] [010417 15:00] wrote:
:Once the mutexes are in place the underlying implementation can
:change pretty easily from task switching always to only task
:switching when the mutex is owned by the same CPU that I'm running
:on. (to avoid spinlock deadlock)
On Tue, 17 Apr 2001, David Wolfskill wrote:
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 12:34:39 -0700 (PDT)
From: John Baldwin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
...
In file included from /usr/src/usr.sbin/pcvt/vttest/header.h:26,
from /usr/src/usr.sbin/pcvt/vttest/main.c:20:
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 22:18:34 + (GMT)
From: E.B. Dreger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
My instinct (whatever it's worth; remember my disclaimer) is that co-op
switching using something like tsleep() and wakeup_one() or similar would
be more efficient than trying to screw with mutexes.
Oops. I
On Sun, 15 Apr 2001, Justin T. Gibbs wrote:
There's no downside, really.
It just seems inelegant to have a system that, on paper, is
so inefficient. Can't we do better?
Sure. Don't discard buffer contents when recycling a B_MALLOC'ed buffer,
but manage it using a secondary buffer
I don't consider it inefficient. Sure, if you look at this one aspect
of the caching taken out of context it may appear to be inefficient,
but if you look at the whole enchilada the memory issue is nothing
more then a minor footnote - not worth the effort of worrying about.
:
:I don't consider it inefficient. Sure, if you look at this one aspect
:of the caching taken out of context it may appear to be inefficient,
:but if you look at the whole enchilada the memory issue is nothing
:more then a minor footnote - not worth the effort of worrying
"Justin T. Gibbs" wrote:
I notice that this option is off by default. Can you give a general
idea of when it should be enabled, when it should be disabled, and what bad
things might result with it on?
It consumes a full page per-directory even though the majority of
directories in a
:It is my understanding that with the new directory layout strategies, this
:will be improved somewhat. ie: a single page is much more likely to cache
:up to 8 directories.
:
:Cheers,
:-Peter
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:"All of this is for nothing
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