Re: Question related to FreeBSD Serial Console...

2003-09-15 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gordon Tetlow [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: : I've personally killed about 5 keyboards this way. I don't recommend hot : plugging PS/2 keyboards. PS/2 keyboards and mice are not hot pluggable. Mechanical switches do not meet the spec, but are less bad than

Re: Question related to FreeBSD Serial Console...

2003-09-11 Thread Gordon Tetlow
On Tue, Sep 02, 2003 at 12:18:51PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hiya Unfortunately, many motherboards (BIOSs?) won't initialise a PS/2 keyboard interface unless a keyboard is connected at boot time, so if you plug in a keyboard subsequently it won't work. Nothing the OS can do in

Re: Question related to FreeBSD Serial Console...

2003-09-03 Thread Matthew D. Fuller
On Tue, Sep 02, 2003 at 12:18:51PM +0100 I heard the voice of [EMAIL PROTECTED], and lo! it spake thus: Keyboard and mouse manufacturers usually give dire warnings about plugging in PS/2 devices when the machine is powered up, maybe that's the reason why. I think it's more because the

Re: Question related to FreeBSD Serial Console...

2003-09-02 Thread Nicole
On 01-Sep-03 Unnamed Administration sources reported Scott Long said : Scott M. Likens wrote: I have a question related to FreeBSD Serial console, I am aware you can use -Dh for both internal and serial, but is it possible to see the 'kernel' boot messages sent on both the serial

Re: Question related to FreeBSD Serial Console...

2003-09-02 Thread Aaron Wohl
My notes on getting a serial console at 115200 -must be com1 -com1 must be at port 0x3F8 irq 4 -in bios set the port and irq as above -in bios set serial redirection to com1 -in bios set baud rate 115200 -in bios set RTS/CTS flow control -edit (or create) /etc/make.conf to add these lines:

Re: Question related to FreeBSD Serial Console...

2003-09-02 Thread Scott Long
Aaron Wohl wrote: My notes on getting a serial console at 115200 -must be com1 -com1 must be at port 0x3F8 irq 4 -in bios set the port and irq as above -in bios set serial redirection to com1 -in bios set baud rate 115200 -in bios set RTS/CTS flow control -edit (or create) /etc/make.conf to add

Re: Question related to FreeBSD Serial Console...

2003-09-02 Thread Nicole
*SIGH* No what I want is NO serial console. DO NOT FOR ANY REASON turn off/not resp ond to the keyboard port Nicole On 01-Sep-03 Unnamed Administration sources reported Scott Long said : Aaron Wohl wrote: My notes on getting a serial console at 115200 -must be com1 -com1 must be at

Re: Question related to FreeBSD Serial Console...

2003-09-02 Thread David Leimbach
On Sep 1, 2003, at 6:36 PM, Nicole wrote: *SIGH* No what I want is NO serial console. DO NOT FOR ANY REASON turn off/not resp ond to the keyboard port -Dh means both keyboard and serial console... what's the problem? And please stop shouting. Dave Nicole On 01-Sep-03 Unnamed

Re: Question related to FreeBSD Serial Console...

2003-09-02 Thread John Birrell
On Mon, Sep 01, 2003 at 05:29:09PM -0600, Scott Long wrote: At one time I was working on patches to the loader to make the console speed configurable. At the time, at least, I didn't see any evidence that the settings were stored in the boot0 block, but maybe I was wrong. AFAIK, the boot0

Re: Question related to FreeBSD Serial Console...

2003-09-02 Thread Scott Long
I don't believe that I responded to your email, so I'm not sure why you are shouting at me. Figuring out what the Right Thing is for handling disconnected keyboards seems to be highly debatable. Until someone comes along and solves the problem the way that you want it, one workaround to

Re: Question related to FreeBSD Serial Console...

2003-09-02 Thread Scott Long
John Birrell wrote: On Mon, Sep 01, 2003 at 05:29:09PM -0600, Scott Long wrote: At one time I was working on patches to the loader to make the console speed configurable. At the time, at least, I didn't see any evidence that the settings were stored in the boot0 block, but maybe I was wrong.

Re: Question related to FreeBSD Serial Console...

2003-09-02 Thread Aaron Wohl
If you do try a USB keyboard be sure and test reboot -d (make a kernel core). On the intel servers I have reboot -d (or any panic) causes the kernel to lockup forever. In the routine where it writes out kernel dumps it pools for a control-c hit on the console that routine (poll for a char) turns

Re: Question related to FreeBSD Serial Console...

2003-09-02 Thread Scott M. Likens
On Mon, 2003-09-01 at 16:13, Nicole wrote: On 01-Sep-03 Unnamed Administration sources reported Scott Long said : Scott M. Likens wrote: I have a question related to FreeBSD Serial console, I am aware you can use -Dh for both internal and serial, but is it possible to see the 'kernel

Re: Question related to FreeBSD Serial Console...

2003-09-02 Thread Terry Lambert
Scott Long wrote: Scott M. Likens wrote: I have a question related to FreeBSD Serial console, I am aware you can use -Dh for both internal and serial, but is it possible to see the 'kernel' boot messages sent on both the serial and the console? It was a question that was asked to me

Re: Question related to FreeBSD Serial Console...

2003-09-02 Thread Terry Lambert
David Leimbach wrote: On Sep 1, 2003, at 6:36 PM, Nicole wrote: *SIGH* No what I want is NO serial console. DO NOT FOR ANY REASON turn off/not resp ond to the keyboard port -Dh means both keyboard and serial console... what's the problem? And please stop shouting. man 8 boot:

Re: Question related to FreeBSD Serial Console...

2003-09-02 Thread Bruce Evans
About the original question: multiple consoles in the kernel are unsupported in FreeBSD-4 but are standard in -current. Unfortunately, their implementation is slightly incomplete even in -current. In -current, you get them by booting with -D after booting using the kern.console sysctl. The

Re: Question related to FreeBSD Serial Console...

2003-09-02 Thread Bob Bishop
Hi, At 00:36 2/9/03, Nicole wrote: *SIGH* No what I want is NO serial console. DO NOT FOR ANY REASON turn off/not resp ond to the keyboard port Unfortunately, many motherboards (BIOSs?) won't initialise a PS/2 keyboard interface unless a keyboard is connected at boot time, so if you plug in a

Re: Question related to FreeBSD Serial Console...

2003-09-02 Thread jon
Hiya Unfortunately, many motherboards (BIOSs?) won't initialise a PS/2 keyboard interface unless a keyboard is connected at boot time, so if you plug in a keyboard subsequently it won't work. Nothing the OS can do in this case (I believe), and yes it's a PITA. Keyboard and mouse

Re: Question related to FreeBSD Serial Console...

2003-09-02 Thread Scott M. Likens
On Tue, 2003-09-02 at 01:33, Bruce Evans wrote: About the original question: multiple consoles in the kernel are unsupported in FreeBSD-4 but are standard in -current. Unfortunately, their implementation is slightly incomplete even in -current. In -current, you get them by booting with -D

Re: Question related to FreeBSD Serial Console...

2003-09-02 Thread Bruce M Simpson
On Mon, Sep 01, 2003 at 05:29:09PM -0600, Scott Long wrote: At one time I was working on patches to the loader to make the console speed configurable. At the time, at least, I didn't see any evidence that the settings were stored in the boot0 block, but maybe I was wrong. In any case,

Question related to FreeBSD Serial Console...

2003-09-01 Thread Scott M. Likens
I have a question related to FreeBSD Serial console, I am aware you can use -Dh for both internal and serial, but is it possible to see the 'kernel' boot messages sent on both the serial and the console? It was a question that was asked to me by a client, and after researching it more, it seems

Re: Question related to FreeBSD Serial Console...

2003-09-01 Thread David Leimbach
On Sep 1, 2003, at 2:47 PM, Scott M. Likens wrote: I have a question related to FreeBSD Serial console, I am aware you can use -Dh for both internal and serial, but is it possible to see the 'kernel' boot messages sent on both the serial and the console? If your BIOS supports serial port

Re: Question related to FreeBSD Serial Console...

2003-09-01 Thread Scott Long
Scott M. Likens wrote: I have a question related to FreeBSD Serial console, I am aware you can use -Dh for both internal and serial, but is it possible to see the 'kernel' boot messages sent on both the serial and the console? It was a question that was asked to me by a client, and after