Re: Anybody working on FreeBSD BIOS?

2000-06-16 Thread Doug White
On Thu, 15 Jun 2000, Stefan Molnar wrote: I have not built clusters over 200 nodes, but I almost never go into the BIOS for configurations. And the systems that I have used, include serial access within the BIOS. And adding PXE roms will make things nicer on the install front. But my

Re: cool

2000-06-16 Thread Greg Lehey
[Format recovered--see http://www.lemis.com/email/email-format.html] On Wednesday, 14 June 2000 at 1:00:27 -0700, Julian Elischer wrote: So, if you are in the Singapore Changi international airport, the internet center in the transit area will loan you for FREE, a wavelan PC-CARD. So here

Re: Anybody working on FreeBSD BIOS?

2000-06-16 Thread Paul Saab
John Baldwin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: The best people to determin if it is nessesary is Yahoo and Hotmail. Since they have worked with these issues in the thousands of machines. Actually, Yahoo is basically who funded the PXE development as their employees did most of the development

Re: [Oz-ISP] FreeBSD and the forces of darkness. Real religiouswars! (fwd)

2000-06-16 Thread Mike Nowlin
This is a message which appeared on the aussie-isp mailing list earlier today. I thought people here might like it :-) Ross is a reliable source, so I doubt we can chalk this one up to "urban legend". Maybe I'll have my graphics guy whip up a picture of Tux with horns and holding a

Re: Anybody working on FreeBSD BIOS?

2000-06-16 Thread Mike Nowlin
Two words: "forget it". I read an article about Linux BIOS project on Slashdot.org. Is there anybody working on FreeBSD BIOS? I really like to see something like 'boot net - install' or serial console. It would be cool to have dignostics routine, too. I haven't looked at the

Re: RealSystem module for libalias

2000-06-16 Thread Brian Somers
Hi, I haven't done anything with this yet, but I plan to take a look soon. This is just a note to let you know that your post hasn't gone unnoticed. The libalias allows to transport only TCP stream on the RealSystem (RealAudio and RealVideo). It can not transport UDP stream, rtsp and pna,

Re: freebsd bios.

2000-06-16 Thread Jordan K. Hubbard
So, I repeat: easily done, not acceptable to freebsd core. Erm, hello? I really don't understand this message at all, Ron. As far as I know, FreeBSD core has expressed NO opinion on this issue whatsoever and it's therefore highly unfair of you to state that we: a) Even have a firm

Re: freebsd bios.

2000-06-16 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
The key is that freebsd may need to change a few things to make it bootable from cold hardware. I don't think this is for sure, but it may happen. I hope the team is receptive to such changes ... ie. "LinuxBIOS won't initialise the system correctly, so you'd better clean up after it"? How

Re: RealSystem module for libalias

2000-06-16 Thread Brian Somers
Brian, this is just to let you know that: 1) I am currently in process of applying *big* PPTP patch to libalias so I would really appreciate it if you do not touch libalias before I finish with PPTP part. Ok, no problem - I'm pretty busy at the moment anyway. 2) Erik Salander

Re: cool

2000-06-16 Thread Richard Wackerbarth
On Thu, 15 Jun 2000, Greg Lehey wrote: [Format recovered--see http://www.lemis.com/email/email-format.html] On Wednesday, 14 June 2000 at 1:00:27 -0700, Julian Elischer wrote: So, if you are in the Singapore Changi international airport, the internet center in the transit area will loan

Re: cool

2000-06-16 Thread Ben Smithurst
Richard Wackerbarth wrote: I looks to me like Julian's machine has the configuration problem. The dhcp client cannot get enough bpf's. So why did tcpdump work? Both dhclient and tcpdump need one bpf, no? I initially thought the same as you but then asked myself that question. -- Ben

Re: Anybody working on FreeBSD BIOS?

2000-06-16 Thread Fred Clift
I'm interested, since from reading the linixboot page it seems like you can get, essentially, and instant-on rommable FreeBSD if this were done, and I can think of lots of things to do with that! I can think of a few useful things too! I might even be able to offer a bit of help (at

Re: Anybody working on FreeBSD BIOS?

2000-06-16 Thread Wes Peters
Sergey Babkin wrote: Eh ? I don't quite get how Sun could be associated with Open Firmware. Probably because they developed it? It always looked quite proprietary to me. Yeah, those IEEE standards are terribly proprietary. IEEE-1275 in this case. You can find more info at

mmap and file writes...???

2000-06-16 Thread Joy Ganguly
hi all, i have a question regarding mmap and file write. a file is mmap'ed and data is written into the mapped region. now the same region is written. (as shown below) buf = mmap(NULL, len, PROT_READ | PROT_WRITE, MAP_SHARED, fd, 0); . . /* some data put in buf */ . write(fd, buf, len); now

Re: Anybody working on FreeBSD BIOS?

2000-06-16 Thread Stefan Molnar
On Thu, 15 Jun 2000, Doug White wrote: On Thu, 15 Jun 2000, Stefan Molnar wrote: I have not built clusters over 200 nodes, but I almost never go into the BIOS for configurations. And the systems that I have used, include serial access within the BIOS. And adding PXE roms will

Re: freebsd bios.

2000-06-16 Thread Fred Clift
We really were hoping we'd get some help from a motherboard vendor but that just hasn't been the case. No-one seems interested in the relatively low quantities of boards we'd move. Too bad we're already a big customer of these boards -- We'd love to have this kind of information about

Re: Anybody working on FreeBSD BIOS?

2000-06-16 Thread Robert Withrow
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: :- None of the motherboard or chipset vendors (except for SiS) are even :- slightly interested in talking to us. Are they interested in talking to Linux folks? If so, isn't that a reasonable alternative? (I mean, team up with some Linux folks to get the info...) --

Problem installing FreeBSD 4.0

2000-06-16 Thread Sbenitez
-- Forwarded by Satcha Benitez/Milwaukee/RA/Rockwell on 06/16/2000 10:55 AM --- Satcha Benitez 06/16/2000 10:33 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: Problem installing FreeBSD 4.0 Hi, My name is Satcha Benitez and I'm trying to install FreeBSD

Re: freebsd bios.

2000-06-16 Thread Ronald G Minnich
sorry, jordan. my bad. Anyway we're going to try a kernel next week that parag sent me. ron To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message

Re: freebsd bios.

2000-06-16 Thread Ronald G Minnich
(paul asks a good microcode question). I can't answer it yet. Here's my take on this: we're going to do a proof of concept of this idea. We now have three partners: SiS, Compaq, and Dell. Long-term goal is to get industry to pick it up. This is a means to an end. I don't want to be Mr. LinuxBIOS

3dfx driver for freebsd

2000-06-16 Thread Coleman Kane
Here's the address of the 3dfx device driver I wrote for freebsd: http://pohl.ececs.uc.edu/~cokane/ Please test it some more and give me feedback. Could someone please email me with information on submitting this to the CVS commit team? -- Coleman Kane President, UC Free O.S. Users Group -

Re: Anybody working on FreeBSD BIOS?

2000-06-16 Thread Parag Patel
On Fri, 16 Jun 2000 11:13:18 EDT, Robert Withrow wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: :- None of the motherboard or chipset vendors (except for SiS) are even :- slightly interested in talking to us. Are they interested in talking to Linux folks? If so, isn't that a reasonable alternative? (I mean,

Re: [Oz-ISP] FreeBSD and the forces of darkness. Real religious wars! (fwd)

2000-06-16 Thread Parag Patel
On Fri, 16 Jun 2000 02:33:00 EDT, Mike Nowlin wrote: Maybe I'll have my graphics guy whip up a picture of Tux with horns and holding a pitchfork (Actually, I think I've seen something like that before.) Can your graphics guy whip up a couple of Daemons in the style of Southpark (esp.

Re: [Oz-ISP] FreeBSD and the forces of darkness. Real religious wars! (fwd)

2000-06-16 Thread Jack Rusher
Parag Patel wrote: Can your graphics guy whip up a couple of Daemons in the style of Southpark (esp. Cartman) and the PowerPuff Girls? Just a couple of things I want to see... Oh... My... God... I would pay to print the t-shirts. -- Jack Rusher, Senior Engineer | mailto:[EMAIL

Re: [Oz-ISP] FreeBSD and the forces of darkness. Real religiouswars! (fwd)

2000-06-16 Thread FENIX.LOCALHOST.NL
I found this funny site look at it :) http://www.rewls.nu Have Fun ;-) On Fri, 16 Jun 2000, Parag Patel wrote: On Fri, 16 Jun 2000 02:33:00 EDT, Mike Nowlin wrote: Maybe I'll have my graphics guy whip up a picture of Tux with horns and holding a pitchfork (Actually, I think I've

Re: Anybody working on FreeBSD BIOS?

2000-06-16 Thread Ronald G Minnich
On Fri, 16 Jun 2000, Parag Patel wrote: No-one else seems to be interested. actually, that's not quite true. we're seeing a fair amount of interest here. I suspect vendors are not that interested in supporting another BIOS unless/until they see potential $$$ ("value proposition" in MBA

Re: [Oz-ISP] FreeBSD and the forces of darkness. Real religious wars! (fwd)

2000-06-16 Thread Parag Patel
On Fri, 16 Jun 2000 10:46:58 PDT, Jack Rusher wrote: Parag Patel wrote: Can your graphics guy whip up a couple of Daemons in the style of Southpark (esp. Cartman) and the PowerPuff Girls? Just a couple of things I want to see... Oh... My... God... I would pay to print the t-shirts.

Re: [Oz-ISP] FreeBSD and the forces of darkness. Real religiouswars! (fwd)

2000-06-16 Thread James Howard
On Fri, 16 Jun 2000, Jack Rusher wrote: Parag Patel wrote: Can your graphics guy whip up a couple of Daemons in the style of Southpark (esp. Cartman) and the PowerPuff Girls? Just a couple of things I want to see... Oh... My... God... I would pay to print the t-shirts. Oh my

Re: cool

2000-06-16 Thread Julian Elischer
Ben Smithurst wrote: Richard Wackerbarth wrote: I looks to me like Julian's machine has the configuration problem. The dhcp client cannot get enough bpf's. So why did tcpdump work? Both dhclient and tcpdump need one bpf, no? I initially thought the same as you but then asked myself

Re: Anybody working on FreeBSD BIOS?

2000-06-16 Thread Matthew N. Dodd
On Fri, 16 Jun 2000, Stefan Molnar wrote: I delgated the remote-hands to being my human on-off switch, or a "blinky light" monitor. Buy a bunch of RPC-2s or RPC-4s http://baytechdcd.com/products/rpcseries.shtml -- | Matthew N. Dodd | '78 Datsun 280Z | '75 Volvo 164E | FreeBSD/NetBSD | |

Re: [Oz-ISP] FreeBSD and the forces of darkness. Real religious wars! (fwd)

2000-06-16 Thread Terrance Young
I'd buy one hehe Jack Rusher wrote: Parag Patel wrote: Can your graphics guy whip up a couple of Daemons in the style of Southpark (esp. Cartman) and the PowerPuff Girls? Just a couple of things I want to see... Oh... My... God... I would pay to print the t-shirts. -- Jack

Re: mmap and file writes...???

2000-06-16 Thread Matthew Dillon
:hi all, : :i have a question regarding mmap and file write. a file is mmap'ed and :data is written into the mapped region. now the same region is written. :(as shown below) : :buf = mmap(NULL, len, PROT_READ | PROT_WRITE, MAP_SHARED, fd, 0); :. :. /* some data put in buf */ :. : :write(fd, buf,

RE: freebsd bios.

2000-06-16 Thread Sean Jensen_Grey
[not on list] Regarding the freebsd bios and availablity of firmware you should check out http://developer.intel.com/technology/efi/index.htm The sample implementation uses a FBSD core and provides a tcp/ip stack ftp client and server python interpreter read

Re: Anybody working on FreeBSD BIOS?

2000-06-16 Thread Sergey Babkin
Wes Peters wrote: Sergey Babkin wrote: Eh ? I don't quite get how Sun could be associated with Open Firmware. Probably because they developed it? Ah, that was my ignorance. never knew that Open Firmware is a trademarked concept, like Open Source. It always looked quite proprietary

Re: freebsd bios.

2000-06-16 Thread Daniel C. Sobral
Ronald G Minnich wrote: my bad. Anyway we're going to try a kernel next week that parag sent me. Mmmm. I saw no comments on my loader question. Loader(8) runs using BIOS services, and loads the kernel from any drive that BIOS recognizes. It has also been enhanced with PXE knowledge, so he

use of '#pragma weak...'

2000-06-16 Thread Matthew Jacob
Now that the heat wave is over in SFback to my loadable module project changes to isp... maybe this is more for the toolchain folks than kernel hackers... So, I notice that '#pragma weak' appears to work for me for the compilers and linkers we currently use for i386 alpha (at least in user

kern/18524

2000-06-16 Thread Arun Sharma
Not that it adds any more weight to my patch - but the linux folks are essentially doing the same thing: http://reality.sgi.com/dimitris_engr/pda_patch-2.4.0-1 http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=18524 -Arun To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe

Re: routing bug(?) persists (PR 16318)

2000-06-16 Thread Colin
What you're doing here is generally referred to as multi-netting. When you're wandering through the references, use that as a starting point. Multi-netting is certainly valid, when implemented correctly. I would definately echo the sentiment elsewhere in this thread that you and your ISP

Re: kern/18524

2000-06-16 Thread Garance A Drosihn
At 5:29 PM -0700 6/16/00, Arun Sharma wrote: Not that it adds any more weight to my patch - but the linux folks are essentially doing the same thing: http://reality.sgi.com/dimitris_engr/pda_patch-2.4.0-1 http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=18524 Ah, the per-CPU stats. I was wondering

Re: ACPI project progress report

2000-06-16 Thread Daniel C. Sobral
Mitsuru IWASAKI wrote: - support S2, S3, S4 (hibernation) sleeping transition. S4 sleep require some hack in boot loader needs help. I thought hibernation was entirely controlled by kernel? What do you need? -- Daniel C. Sobral(8-DCS) [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: ACPI project progress report

2000-06-16 Thread Daniel C. Sobral
"Daniel C. Sobral" wrote: Mitsuru IWASAKI wrote: - support S2, S3, S4 (hibernation) sleeping transition. S4 sleep require some hack in boot loader needs help. I thought hibernation was entirely controlled by kernel? What do you

ACPI project progress report

2000-06-16 Thread Mitsuru IWASAKI
Hi, here is the latest report on our ACPI project's progress. Current status: The aml interpreter development is going on and we've ported it to kernel simultaneously. Now that we can build ACPI namespace and search any named objects from there in kernel space. The aml interpreter code can

Re: routing bug(?) persists (PR 16318)

2000-06-16 Thread Marinos J . Yannikos
On Fri, Jun 16, 2000 at 09:17:13PM -0400, Colin wrote: [...] I honestly see no reason that what you're doing should work at all. Effectively you're telling your system that the way to connect to networks that it's address is not part of is to send a message to a host that is on a network

RE: [Oz-ISP] FreeBSD and the forces of darkness. Real religiouswars! (fwd)

2000-06-16 Thread James Johnson
This is now my splash screen. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of FENIX.LOCALHOST.NL Sent: Friday, June 16, 2000 10:49 AM To: Parag Patel Cc: Mike Nowlin; Mark Newton; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Oz-ISP] FreeBSD and the forces of

Re: loading modules from within the kernel....

2000-06-16 Thread Matthew Jacob
The more I look at the preload way of doing things, the more I see this as something of a lose. What we want to do is to load the fw module if and only if there is h/w for it, and then unload it when we're done. We want to do this w/o user intervention, else why bother (as we could have gotten

Re: freebsd bios.

2000-06-16 Thread Parag Patel
On Sat, 17 Jun 2000 07:35:51 +0900, "Daniel C. Sobral" wrote: Ronald G Minnich wrote: my bad. Anyway we're going to try a kernel next week that parag sent me. Mmmm. I saw no comments on my loader question. Loader(8) runs using BIOS services, and loads the kernel from any drive that BIOS

Re: routing bug(?) persists (PR 16318)

2000-06-16 Thread Nick Rogness
On Sat, 17 Jun 2000, Marinos J . Yannikos wrote: On Fri, Jun 16, 2000 at 09:17:13PM -0400, Colin wrote: It's not exactly a "catch-22", since the (perfectly valid) static route to the default gateway's network takes precedence over the above rule (the default route). So how are they

Re: use of '#pragma weak...'

2000-06-16 Thread John Polstra
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Matthew Jacob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, I notice that '#pragma weak' appears to work for me for the compilers and linkers we currently use for i386 alpha (at least in user space), so you can do things like: - extern void

Re: ACPI project progress report

2000-06-16 Thread Mitsuru IWASAKI
Hi, "Daniel C. Sobral" wrote: Mitsuru IWASAKI wrote: - support S2, S3, S4 (hibernation) sleeping transition. S4 sleep require some hack in boot loader needs help. I thought hibernation was entirely controlled by kernel? What do you