Perfmon device

2001-05-22 Thread Oscar-Ivan Lepe-Aldama
Hi, I sent this question to freebsd-questions but haven't got any answer, yet. That is why I'm now trying here. Here is my question. I have noticed that every time the perfmon device is closed it shuts down the PMECs. While I can see this is appropriate for some applications, it is not for mine.

Re: sysctl to disable reboot

2001-05-22 Thread Valentin Nechayev
Mon, May 21, 2001 at 18:46:57, imp (Warner Losh) wrote about "Re: sysctl to disable reboot": > : In addition, I prefer my approach here because it's a single, > : known toggle that doesn't involve messing with other parts of the > : system. I might just want to disable keyboard rebooting > :

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mylex raid card problem on 4.2-stable

2001-05-22 Thread julien
Hi all, We have a quite disapointing problem with a mylex 170 card, which causes a system crash every 6 hours. This card is installed in a VA Linux 2240 with 4 18GB drives, configured in a single RAID 5 pack, running a FreeBSD 4.2-stable system. We have to notice that this system ran during 4 mon

Re: -R for make update ?

2001-05-22 Thread Terry Lambert
Wilko Bulte wrote: > > Hi > > Is there any specific reason why one needs to be able to > write a lock to the CVS repo when running 'make update' > to get a freshly checked out source? Yeah: you aren't running your CVS server in "pserver" mode, and so are trying to do a lock, either in your loca

Re: RE: vmspace leak (+ tentative fix)

2001-05-22 Thread John Baldwin
On 22-May-01 Matt Dillon wrote: >:Ok, then why not let the current shmexit() stay in exit1() as a hack to help >:free memory, but add in a check in vmspace_free() as well to catch any race >:conditions that may fall through the cracks? As long as we clear the shm >:pointer in struct vmspace when

what is a good toolkit for multitarget documentation?

2001-05-22 Thread Karsten W. Rohrbach
hey folks, i am currently evaluating different styles of implementing documentation for some multiplatform software stuff. first i though about html only docs, but this is not sufficient. then i thought about tex docs but this wont work out either. the idea is to have a single 'master repo' sty

Re: technical comparison

2001-05-22 Thread Karsten W. Rohrbach
Jordan Hubbard([EMAIL PROTECTED])@2001.05.21 15:37:05 +: > > c) A filesystem that will be fast in light of tens of thousands of > >files in a single directory (maybe even hundreds of thousands) > > I think we can more than hold our own with UFS + soft updates. This > is another area wher

Re: technical comparison

2001-05-22 Thread Jason Andresen
"Albert D. Cahalan" wrote: > It should be immediately obvious that ext2 is NOT the filesystem > being proposed, async or not. For large directories, ext2 sucks > as bad as UFS does. This is because ext2 is a UFS clone. > > The proposed filesystem is most likely Reiserfs. This is a true > journal

RE: interface flags

2001-05-22 Thread Mårten Wikström
As it says in sys/net/if.h, IFF_RUNNING means "resources allocated" and IFF_UP means "interface is up". As I interpret this, the difference is that IFF_RUNNING is set when the interface is initialised and indicates that it is ready to be used. IFF_UP on the other hand is set by the user to indicat

Re: FreeBSD/powerpc work to date

2001-05-22 Thread Doug Rabson
On Mon, 21 May 2001, Benno Rice wrote: > Please feel free to review, comment, etc. > > The snapshot is in the form of a diff against -CURRENT and a tar.gz file > containing new files that would need to be committed. Both of these > files are rooted in src/sys. Nice! Reading through the changes,

Re: technical comparison

2001-05-22 Thread Hroi Sigurdsson
[trimming CCs] On Tue, May 22, 2001 at 09:31:34AM -0400, Jason Andresen wrote: > Er, I don't think ReiserFS is in the Linux kernel yet, although it is > the default filesystem on some distros apparently. I think Linus has > some reservations about the stability of the filesystem since it is >

Re: technical comparison

2001-05-22 Thread Jason Andresen
"Albert D. Cahalan" wrote: > > Gordon Tetlow writes: > > On Mon, 21 May 2001, Jordan Hubbard wrote: > >> [Charles C. Figueire] > > >>> c) A filesystem that will be fast in light of tens of thousands of > >>>files in a single directory (maybe even hundreds of thousands) > >> > >> I think we c

Re: technical comparison

2001-05-22 Thread Jason Andresen
Jason Andresen wrote: Oops, I fubbed up the linux at 6 files test, I'm rerunning it now, but it will take a while to finish. > Results: > ufs+softupdates is a little slower than ext2fs+wc for low numbers of > files, but scales better. I wish I had a Reiserfs partition to > test with. To

Re: what is a good toolkit for multitarget documentation?

2001-05-22 Thread Bruce A. Mah
If memory serves me right, "Karsten W. Rohrbach" wrote: > i am currently evaluating different styles of implementing documentation > for some multiplatform software stuff. first i though about html only > docs, but this is not sufficient. then i thought about tex docs but this > wont work out eit

Re: technical comparison

2001-05-22 Thread Jason Andresen
Jason Andresen wrote: > > Jason Andresen wrote: > > Oops, I fubbed up the linux at 6 files test, I'm rerunning it now, > but it will take a while to finish. > > > Results: > > ufs+softupdates is a little slower than ext2fs+wc for low numbers of > > files, but scales better. I wish I had a

Re: mylex raid card problem on 4.2-stable

2001-05-22 Thread Lawrence Sica`
At 12:34 PM 5/22/2001 +0200, julien wrote: >Hi all, > >We have a quite disapointing problem with a mylex 170 card, which causes >a system crash every 6 hours. >This card is installed in a VA Linux 2240 with 4 18GB drives, configured >in a single RAID 5 pack, running a FreeBSD 4.2-stable system. >W

Re: ppp problems on 4.3-RELEASE and PPPoE

2001-05-22 Thread Ollivier Robert
According to Brian Somers: > If pppctl is still working (ppp will talk to it), then it may be > worth seeing what ``show physical'' and ``show timer'' say (is the > link open, or is ppp waiting for something to happen via a timeout?). Locked again with a pppctl attached. show timer -=-=- IPCP

Re: mylex raid card problem on 4.2-stable

2001-05-22 Thread julien
Hi,   In fact, I don't really believe in a hardware problem like a false contact on a temp sensor. I also noticed that a boot time, it stays blocked at "waiting 15s for scsi device to settle" during arround 10 min what would indicate that it's more an OS / driver problem. In my previous mail,

Re: technical comparison

2001-05-22 Thread Terry Lambert
] I work in an environment consisting of 300+ systems, all FreeBSD ] and Solaris, along with lots of EMC and F5 stuff. Our engineering division ] has been working on a dynamic content server and search engine for the ] past 2.5 years. They have consistently not met up to performance and ]

Re: technical comparison

2001-05-22 Thread Albert D. Cahalan
Jason Andresen writes: > "Albert D. Cahalan" wrote: >> It should be immediately obvious that ext2 is NOT the filesystem >> being proposed, async or not. For large directories, ext2 sucks >> as bad as UFS does. This is because ext2 is a UFS clone. >> >> The proposed filesystem is most likely Reise

RE: technical comparison

2001-05-22 Thread Matt Simerson
> -Original Message- > From: Terry Lambert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 10:59 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: technical comparison > > ] I work in an environment consisting of 300+ systems, all FreeBSD > ] and Solaris, along with lots of EMC and F5 s

Re: technical comparison

2001-05-22 Thread Jason Andresen
"Albert D. Cahalan" wrote: > > Jason Andresen writes: > > Er, I don't think ReiserFS is in the Linux kernel yet, although it is > > the default filesystem on some distros apparently. I think Linus has > > some reservations about the stability of the filesystem since it is > > It is in the kerne

Re: technical comparison

2001-05-22 Thread Nadav Eiron
I ran tests that I think are similar to what Jason ran on identically configured FreeBSD and Linux/ReiserFS machines. ResierFS is much much faster than UFS+softupdates on these tests. Linux (2.2.14-5 + ReiserFS): Time: 164 seconds total 97 seconds of transactions (103 per second)

Re: technical comparison

2001-05-22 Thread void
On Tue, May 22, 2001 at 12:40:11PM -0600, Matt Simerson wrote: > > When did that change? As of March which was the last time I had my grubby > little hands all over a F5 BigIP box in our lab, it was NOT running FreeBSD. > It runs a tweaked version of BSDI's kernel. I believe it is Terry's infor

Re: technical comparison

2001-05-22 Thread Munish Chopra
ReiserFS entered Linux kernels in the pre 2.4.1 series, and was 'official' with 2.4.1. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message

Re: -R for make update ?

2001-05-22 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Tue, May 22, 2001 at 04:00:31AM -0700, Terry Lambert wrote: > > Is there any specific reason why one needs to be able to > > write a lock to the CVS repo when running 'make update' > > to get a freshly checked out source? > > Yeah: you aren't running your CVS server in "pserver" > mode, and s

Re: -R for make update ?

2001-05-22 Thread Nate Williams
> > > Is there any specific reason why one needs to be able to > > > write a lock to the CVS repo when running 'make update' > > > to get a freshly checked out source? > > > > Yeah: you aren't running your CVS server in "pserver" > > mode, and so are trying to do a lock, either in your > > local

Re: RE: vmspace leak (+ tentative fix)

2001-05-22 Thread Matt Dillon
: : :On 22-May-01 Matt Dillon wrote: :>:Ok, then why not let the current shmexit() stay in exit1() as a hack to help :>:free memory, but add in a check in vmspace_free() as well to catch any race :>:conditions that may fall through the cracks? As long as we clear the shm :>:pointer in struct vms

Re: RE: vmspace leak (+ tentative fix)

2001-05-22 Thread John Baldwin
On 22-May-01 Matt Dillon wrote: > >: >: >:On 22-May-01 Matt Dillon wrote: >:>:Ok, then why not let the current shmexit() stay in exit1() as a hack to >:>:help >:>:free memory, but add in a check in vmspace_free() as well to catch any race >:>:conditions that may fall through the cracks? As long

Re: RE: vmspace leak (+ tentative fix)

2001-05-22 Thread Matt Dillon
:>: :>:John Baldwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ :> :> Huh? It doesn't look like the same algorithm to me. : :In exit1() we attempt to free resources early if we can. If we lose the race, :we still clean it up in vmspace_free() called from cpu_wait(). If you check :t

Re: -R for make update ?

2001-05-22 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Tue, May 22, 2001 at 02:15:18PM -0600, Nate Williams wrote: > > > > Is there any specific reason why one needs to be able to > > > > write a lock to the CVS repo when running 'make update' > > > > to get a freshly checked out source? > > > > > > Yeah: you aren't running your CVS server in "pse

Re: RE: vmspace leak (+ tentative fix)

2001-05-22 Thread John Baldwin
On 22-May-01 Matt Dillon wrote: >:>: >:>:John Baldwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ >:> >:> Huh? It doesn't look like the same algorithm to me. >: >:In exit1() we attempt to free resources early if we can. If we lose the >:race, >:we still clean it up in vmspace_free(

Re: technical comparison

2001-05-22 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Tue, May 22, 2001 at 10:27:27PM +0300, Nadav Eiron wrote: > I ran tests that I think are similar to what Jason ran on identically > configured FreeBSD and Linux/ReiserFS machines. ResierFS is much much > faster than UFS+softupdates on these tests. > > Linux (2.2.14-5 + ReiserFS): > Time: >

Re: RE: vmspace leak (+ tentative fix)

2001-05-22 Thread Matt Dillon
:> :> The whole point is to release resources as early as possible. Why would :> you ever want to intentionally introduce a race that will 'sometimes' be :> lost and thus cause a late resource release when you can just as easily :> completely guarentee that the resource will be r

Re: technical comparison

2001-05-22 Thread Nadav Eiron
I didn't, but I believe Jason's numbers (for ext2 and ufs) also had write caching only enabled on Linux. On Tue, 22 May 2001, Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Tue, May 22, 2001 at 10:27:27PM +0300, Nadav Eiron wrote: > > I ran tests that I think are similar to what Jason ran on identically > > configur

Device driver questions

2001-05-22 Thread SJ
Hi all, I am new to writing device drivers...so please excuse my ignorance. I have a couple of questions regarding that: 1. "ioconf.c" contains struct config_resource and config_device definitions for declarations in "config" file. But I noticed that for some devices e.g. device

Re: technical comparison

2001-05-22 Thread Daniel C. Sobral
Jason Andresen wrote: > > If only FreeBSD could boot from those funky M-Systems flash disks. It can. -- Daniel C. Sobral(8-DCS) [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wow regex humor... I'm a geek To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] w

Re: technical comparison

2001-05-22 Thread Daniel C. Sobral
Jason Andresen wrote: > > Results: > ufs+softupdates is a little slower than ext2fs+wc for low numbers of > files, but scales better. I wish I had a Reiserfs partition to > test with. Ext2fs is a non-contender. Note, though, that there is some very recent perfomance improvement on very large d

Re: technical comparison

2001-05-22 Thread Daniel C. Sobral
Nadav Eiron wrote: > > I ran tests that I think are similar to what Jason ran on identically > configured FreeBSD and Linux/ReiserFS machines. ResierFS is much much > faster than UFS+softupdates on these tests. > > FreeBSD 4.3-RELEASE (ufs/softupdates): 4.3 does not have the dirpref changes. (

Re: technical comparison

2001-05-22 Thread Daniel C. Sobral
Nadav Eiron wrote: > > I ran tests that I think are similar to what Jason ran on identically > configured FreeBSD and Linux/ReiserFS machines. ResierFS is much much > faster than UFS+softupdates on these tests. For that matter, did you have vfs.vmiodirenable enabled? -- Daniel C. Sobral

Re: technical comparison

2001-05-22 Thread Shannon Hendrix
On Tue, May 22, 2001 at 02:49:21PM -0400, Jason Andresen wrote: > 6 files took ~15 minutes to create as is. I'm going to have to wait > until tonight to run larger sets. 2.2.16 is what we have here. > I'm still waiting to see how much faster ReiserFS is. I'm willing to overnight your te

Re: technical comparison

2001-05-22 Thread Shannon Hendrix
On Tue, May 22, 2001 at 09:31:34AM -0400, Jason Andresen wrote: > Er, I don't think ReiserFS is in the Linux kernel yet, although it is > the default filesystem on some distros apparently. ReiserFS, on my system anyway, started just losing files. I'd log in and would notice some mp3 files or s

Re: technical comparison

2001-05-22 Thread Daniel C. Sobral
Shannon Hendrix wrote: > > On Tue, May 22, 2001 at 02:49:21PM -0400, Jason Andresen wrote: > > > 6 files took ~15 minutes to create as is. I'm going to have to wait > > until tonight to run larger sets. 2.2.16 is what we have here. > > I'm still waiting to see how much faster ReiserFS is.

Re: technical comparison

2001-05-22 Thread Shannon Hendrix
On Tue, May 22, 2001 at 09:20:32PM -0400, Shannon Hendrix wrote: > I'm willing to overnight your test if you want. Do you have it packaged > up to send? I meant to say did you have the parameters you used saved. I'm assuming now though, that you used the defaults for the program except for tran

Re: technical comparison

2001-05-22 Thread Shannon Hendrix
On Tue, May 22, 2001 at 12:03:33PM -0400, Jason Andresen wrote: > Here's the results I got from postmark, which seems to be the closest > match to the original problem in the entire ports tree. > > Test setup: > Two machines with the same make and model hardware, one running > FreeBSD 4.0, the

Re: technical comparison

2001-05-22 Thread Shannon Hendrix
On Tue, May 22, 2001 at 10:55:09PM -0300, Daniel C. Sobral wrote: > And just to get things worse... :-) the test must be made on the *same* > slice. If you configure two different slices, the one on the outer > tracks will be faster. I cannot verify that with my drive, but my largest is 18GB so

Re: technical comparison

2001-05-22 Thread Terry Lambert
Nadav Eiron wrote: > > I ran tests that I think are similar to what Jason ran on identically > configured FreeBSD and Linux/ReiserFS machines. ResierFS is much much > faster than UFS+softupdates on these tests. [ ... ] > Both tests were done with postmark-1.5, 6 files in > 1 transaction

Re: technical comparison

2001-05-22 Thread David Scheidt
On Tue, 22 May 2001, Shannon Hendrix wrote: : :Point taken, but the "yank power, see who survives" test is illogical :and dangerous thinking. Depends on the enviornment. I've had lots of machines just lose power. People will pull power cords out, the back-up generators won't start before the ba

Re: technical comparison

2001-05-22 Thread Terry Lambert
void wrote: > > On Tue, May 22, 2001 at 12:40:11PM -0600, Matt Simerson wrote: > > > > When did that change? As of March which was the last time > > I had my grubby little hands all over a F5 BigIP box in our > > lab, it was NOT running FreeBSD. It runs a tweaked version > > of BSDI's kernel.

Re: technical comparison

2001-05-22 Thread Albert D. Cahalan
Shannon Hendrix writes: > On Tue, May 22, 2001 at 12:03:33PM -0400, Jason Andresen wrote: >> Here's the results I got from postmark, which seems to be the closest >> match to the original problem in the entire ports tree. >> >> Test setup: >> Two machines with the same make and model hardware,

Re: technical comparison

2001-05-22 Thread Albert D. Cahalan
Terry Lambert writes: > I don't understand the inability to perform the trivial > design engineering necessary to keep from needing to put > 60,000 files in one directory. > > However, we can take it as a given that people who need > to do this are incapable of doing computer science. One could

Re: Device driver questions

2001-05-22 Thread Alexander Langer
Thus spake SJ ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Hi! > 1. "ioconf.c" contains struct config_resource and > config_device definitions for declarations in > "config" file. But I noticed that for some devices > e.g. device atadisk > device atapicd > ... >