On Wed, 17 Oct 2001, Sergey Babkin wrote:
> And directly comparing the number of nodes with Beowulf-style
> clusters is not fair. The Beowulf clusters can be reasonably
> efficiently used only for a very limited class of problems
> with very high parallelism of subtasks, high computational
> comp
>-Original Message-
>From: Doug Hass [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 9:19 AM
>To: Ted Mittelstaedt
>Cc: Leo Bicknell; Jim Bryant; MurrayTaylor; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
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>Subject: RE: FYI
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>> Doug, in the entire history of the FreeBSD project, w
>-Original Message-
>From: Doug Hass [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 11:10 AM
>To: void
>Cc: Mike Smith; Ted Mittelstaedt; Leo Bicknell; Jim Bryant;
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>Subject: Re: FYI
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>
>If you didn't say it, then you weren
>-Original Message-
>From: Mike Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 9:46 AM
>To: Doug Hass
>Cc: Ted Mittelstaedt; Leo Bicknell; Jim Bryant; MurrayTaylor;
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>Subject: Re: FYI
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>> > Doug, in the entire history of the Fre
> >Doug; I would recommend against falling for Ted's flamebait here, since
> >that's really all it is.
>
> That's silly, what did you find in it that's flamebait? I think you didn't
> read it.
You're a) misrepresenting the project, b) dismissing the opinions and
statements of others that are
>-Original Message-
>From: Doug Hass [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 10:20 AM
>To: Mike Smith
>Cc: Ted Mittelstaedt; Leo Bicknell; Jim Bryant; MurrayTaylor;
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>Subject: Re: FYI
>
>I'm glad someone else is speaking up--all I'
On Wed, Oct 17, 2001 at 10:51:25PM -0700, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
> When we have a choice, we take the BSD code and improve it as necessary.
> Otherwise, we take what we can get. Sometimes, even, companies that release
> the stuff
> closed source end up opening it up when they see that by doing
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
>Behalf Of Louis A. Mamakos
>Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 4:31 PM
>To: Ted Mittelstaedt
>Cc: void; Matt Dillon; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: Imagestream WanIC-520 interface cards
>
>
>
>> I
On Tue, Oct 16, 2001 at 11:47:59AM -0600, Warner Losh wrote:
> In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Simon Dick writes:
> : Please don't remove the SurfRider one:
> : sio0: port 0xa400-0xa407 irq 12 at device 10.0 on
>pci0
> : sio0: moving to sio2
> : sio2: type 16550A
> :
> : It was me who submitted
>
> We have been told by our rep at Time Warner Communications that those payments
> are still continuing. TW (at least in PDX) does not have enough voice sales
> to be able to get on that pig trough and is equally unhappy as we are that the
> RBOC's are propping up what are in effect bankrupt
> Is there any way to get some of this - NOT under GPL and NOT under NDA?
> There's at least one person during this thread who was looking for a
> DS-3 card like a WANic 8xx You _did_ mention that some of the card modules
> in SAND are not under NDA?
All of the code is licensed under either the
On Tue, 16 Oct 2001, John Baldwin wrote:
>
> On 16-Oct-01 Thomas Dixon wrote:
> > I'm trying to make a bootable CD using the cdboot program that come with
> > freeBSD in /sys/i386/boot/cdboot. The computer I'm trying to do this on
> > definately boots other CDs as it has booted several other
I was using FreeBSD a while ago, suddenly a lot of messages show up:
Limiting closed port RST responses from 224 to 200 packets per seconds.
These messages persist even after reboot. What happened? What should I do?
Thanks!
-Zhihui
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>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
>Behalf Of Louis A. Mamakos
>Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 6:43 AM
>To: Ted Mittelstaedt
>Cc: void; Matt Dillon; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: Imagestream WanIC-520 interface cards
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> Doug, in the entire history of the FreeBSD project, when given a choice
> between a better driver or code that is closed source, and a worse
> driver that has open source, the FreeBSD community has never chosen the
> driver or code with closed source. In fact I can only remember ONCE
> that the
David Malone wrote:
> > I was using FreeBSD a while ago, suddenly a lot of messages show up:
> >
> > Limiting closed port RST responses from 224 to 200 packets per seconds.
> >
> > These messages persist even after reboot. What happened? What should I do?
>
> Could someone be port scanning you? A
> > Doug, in the entire history of the FreeBSD project, when given a choice
> > between a better driver or code that is closed source, and a worse
> > driver that has open source, the FreeBSD community has never chosen the
> > driver or code with closed source. In fact I can only remember ONCE
>
On 17-Oct-01 Thomas Dixon wrote:
>
>
> On Tue, 16 Oct 2001, John Baldwin wrote:
>
>>
>> On 16-Oct-01 Thomas Dixon wrote:
>> > I'm trying to make a bootable CD using the cdboot program that come with
>> > freeBSD in /sys/i386/boot/cdboot. The computer I'm trying to do this on
>> > definately
On Wed, 17 Oct 2001, Terry Lambert wrote:
> > Could someone be port scanning you? Another possibility is that you
> > alot of machines are trying to contact a TCP service on the machine
> > in question, which isn't running.
>
> I've seen this while doing load testing.
>
> In general, you want th
On Wed, 17 Oct 2001, Zhihui Zhang wrote:
>
> I was using FreeBSD a while ago, suddenly a lot of messages show up:
>
> Limiting closed port RST responses from 224 to 200 packets per seconds.
>
> These messages persist even after reboot. What happened? What should I do?
> Thanks!
>
> -Zhihui
Soun
> > We certainly support the right for companies to protect their intellectual
> > property in whatever way they see fit, even if the FreeBSD community does
> > not.
>
> Doug; I would recommend against falling for Ted's flamebait here, since
> that's really all it is. His characterisation of th
There are a fair number of differences, but from my perspective, one of
the primary ones is that truss relies on procfs, whereas ktrace uses a
seperate kernel tracing facility. For sites wanting to avoid procfs due
to its history of security vulnerabilities, having truss rely on procfs
means that
> It's not a generalization at all. Honestly, compared to the market
> traction that Linux, VxWorks, Solaris and others have, FreeBSD is
> definitely without legs. The WAN card and RAS card markets are good
> examples of where the attitude toward "BSD-licensed code or bust" has
> resulted in Fre
Thomas Dixon writes:
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| On Tue, 16 Oct 2001, John Baldwin wrote:
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| >
| > On 16-Oct-01 Thomas Dixon wrote:
| > > I'm trying to make a bootable CD using the cdboot program that come with
| > > freeBSD in /sys/i386/boot/cdboot. The computer I'm trying to do this on
| > > definately boots ot
> > If anyone has an interest in adding support for the SBS WAN cards to
> > FreeBSD, feel free to contact me. I'll be glad to help.
>
> Just package your driver with your cards, or stick it on your support
> site. The whole point being that you don't *have* to get your code into
> the tree;
* Doug Hass <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [011017 12:51] wrote:
> > > If anyone has an interest in adding support for the SBS WAN cards to
> > > FreeBSD, feel free to contact me. I'll be glad to help.
> >
> > Just package your driver with your cards, or stick it on your support
> > site. The whole point
If you didn't say it, then you weren't the one I was talking about, was I?
:-)
I got several other private mails saying that BSD licensed code was the
one and only way, and 2 or 3 mails (from Ben, among others) saying that
BSD-licensed was preferred.
Either approach is as flawed as someone who
Let me cut through all this with a bit of experience if you permit:
1. BSD licensed sources are undoubtedly always preferred.
2. Other open-source licences are the best alternative.
3. closed source solutions are always risky because you don't know
if the company will be willing to, or even
> We certainly support the right for companies to protect their intellectual
> property in whatever way they see fit, even if the FreeBSD community does
> not.
Oh my. I can see that we've gone somewhat polemic here.
As someone who's been around since the very beginning, I think I can
fairly sta
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jordan Hubbard writes:
>I fully support your idea of offering a "bounty" to anyone writing
>drivers for your cards and think you're being more than generous in
>offering it. I wish more vendors would do that and I'm sorry that
>this discussion has gotten as polari
On Sunday, October 14, 2001, Robert Watson wrote:
> For future reports, we will also support SGML submissions using a style
> sheet developed by Nik Clayton.
Those who wish to submit reports in the aforementioned XML
format, see http://www.FreeBSD.org/news/status/report-sample.xml
-- and reme
some snipping done:
>Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 17:21:55 -0700 (PDT)
>From: Cyclades Technical Support <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: Len Conrad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: PC400
>X-Virus-Scanned: by VirusGate.MEIway.com
>X-RCPT-TO: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>Hi Len,
> My answers are below.
>Rega
> I am perfectly aware of this.
>
> The RBOCs deserved to have those "fines" levied against them for a number
> of years, to punish them for attempting to block the CLECs. However, it's
> been long enough for this, and in fact the money from the RBOCs is no longer
> being used to increase the C
At 12:50 PM -0700 10/17/01, Jordan Hubbard wrote:
>I fully support your idea of offering a "bounty" to anyone writing
>drivers for your cards and think you're being more than generous in
>offering it. I wish more vendors would do that and I'm sorry that
>this discussion has gotten as polarized as
Ronald G Minnich wrote:
>
> On Sun, 14 Oct 2001, Rayson Ho wrote:
>
> > http://ssic-linux.sourceforge.net/
>
> A collection of some really bad ideas, not likely to scale well. Note that
> they've got up to 30 nodes, wow. Double it once and that's where this kind
> of "global everything" idea st
Also, for those interested, a sample 'report' XML entry is available at:
http://www.FreeBSD.org/news/status/report-sample.xml
Which can be used to lower my workload by pre-formatting your status
report. You can also submit in plain text and I'll do the conversion
manually.
Thanks!
Robert N
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