Re: Boot manager beep (revisited)

2006-05-01 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2006-05-01 14:02, John Baldwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On Monday 01 May 2006 09:07, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: >>On 2006-05-01 15:03, Daniel Lang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Alex Zbyslaw wrote on Mon, May 01, 2006 at 10:31:34AM +0100: >>> [..] >>> > >off by setting WITHOUT_BOOTEASY_BEEP in

Re: which running thread gests the external signal

2006-05-01 Thread Daniel Eischen
On Tue, 2 May 2006, Alin-Adrian Anton wrote: Hi Hackers, I'm working on a threaded daemon and I'm trying to make it sysadmin friendly. For this, I'm working with external signals. I noticed different behaviour between BSD and Linux for this. When I send an external SIGHUP (rehashing the c

which running thread gests the external signal

2006-05-01 Thread Alin-Adrian Anton
Hi Hackers, I'm working on a threaded daemon and I'm trying to make it sysadmin friendly. For this, I'm working with external signals. I noticed different behaviour between BSD and Linux for this. When I send an external SIGHUP (rehashing the config file) on BSD the thread receiving the si

Re: Zero Copy, FreeBSD and Linus Torvalds opinion

2006-05-01 Thread Lucas Holt
Jamie Bowden wrote: SunOS 4.1.4 (aka Solaris 1.1.?(1 maybe? It's been a long time now.)) was the final release of SunOS 4. It was basically 4.1.3_U1 with a couple of other minor fixes merged in. I spent a very long time porting software from SunOS 4 to Solaris 2.3|4|5 during that time as we t

Re: Zero Copy, FreeBSD and Linus Torvalds opinion

2006-05-01 Thread Allen
On Monday 01 May 2006 2:43 pm, Wilko Bulte wrote: > On Mon, May 01, 2006 at 02:29:31PM -0400, Mike Meyer wrote.. > > > In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Wilko Bulte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> typed: > > > On Mon, May 01, 2006 at 01:23:40PM +, Maslan wrote.. > > > > > > > On 5/1/06, Dag-Erling Smørgrav <[EMAIL

Re: [PATCH] Fancy rc startup style RFC

2006-05-01 Thread Coleman Kane
On Mon, May 01, 2006 at 12:29:20PM -0700, Brooks Davis wrote: > On Mon, May 01, 2006 at 02:16:04PM -0500, Eric Anderson wrote: > > Brooks Davis wrote: > > >On Mon, May 01, 2006 at 02:13:22PM -0500, Eric Anderson wrote: > > >>Brooks Davis wrote: > > >>>On Sun, Apr 30, 2006 at 10:23:32PM -0500, Eric

gvinum start volume returns EBUSY

2006-05-01 Thread Rick C. Petty
When rebuilding a degraded plex with "gvinum start volume" on a mounted filesystem, gvinum reports "errno: 16" (EBUSY). In the CVS: src/sys/geom/vinum/geom_vinum_init.c, lines 363-364 (of MAIN, added 2005-Oct-09, rev 1.10.2.1) has the check: if (gv_is_open(p->geom)) retur

Re: [PATCH] Fancy rc startup style RFC

2006-05-01 Thread Brooks Davis
On Mon, May 01, 2006 at 02:16:04PM -0500, Eric Anderson wrote: > Brooks Davis wrote: > >On Mon, May 01, 2006 at 02:13:22PM -0500, Eric Anderson wrote: > >>Brooks Davis wrote: > >>>On Sun, Apr 30, 2006 at 10:23:32PM -0500, Eric Anderson wrote: > Coleman Kane wrote: > >On Mon, Apr 24, 2006 at

Re: [PATCH] Fancy rc startup style RFC

2006-05-01 Thread Eric Anderson
Brooks Davis wrote: On Mon, May 01, 2006 at 02:13:22PM -0500, Eric Anderson wrote: Brooks Davis wrote: On Sun, Apr 30, 2006 at 10:23:32PM -0500, Eric Anderson wrote: Coleman Kane wrote: On Mon, Apr 24, 2006 at 09:45:09AM -0500, Eric Anderson wrote: Eric Anderson wrote: Actually, some other

Re: [PATCH] Fancy rc startup style RFC

2006-05-01 Thread Brooks Davis
On Mon, May 01, 2006 at 02:13:22PM -0500, Eric Anderson wrote: > Brooks Davis wrote: > >On Sun, Apr 30, 2006 at 10:23:32PM -0500, Eric Anderson wrote: > >>Coleman Kane wrote: > >>>On Mon, Apr 24, 2006 at 09:45:09AM -0500, Eric Anderson wrote: > Eric Anderson wrote: > > Actually, some o

Re: [PATCH] Fancy rc startup style RFC

2006-05-01 Thread Eric Anderson
Brooks Davis wrote: On Sun, Apr 30, 2006 at 10:23:32PM -0500, Eric Anderson wrote: Coleman Kane wrote: On Mon, Apr 24, 2006 at 09:45:09AM -0500, Eric Anderson wrote: Eric Anderson wrote: Actually, some other things got changed somewhere in the history, that broke some things and assumptions

Re: [PATCH] Fancy rc startup style RFC

2006-05-01 Thread Brooks Davis
On Sun, Apr 30, 2006 at 10:23:32PM -0500, Eric Anderson wrote: > Coleman Kane wrote: > >On Mon, Apr 24, 2006 at 09:45:09AM -0500, Eric Anderson wrote: > >>Eric Anderson wrote: > >> > >>Actually, some other things got changed somewhere in the history, that > >>broke some things and assumptions I wa

Re: Zero Copy, FreeBSD and Linus Torvalds opinion

2006-05-01 Thread Wilko Bulte
On Mon, May 01, 2006 at 02:29:31PM -0400, Mike Meyer wrote.. > In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Wilko Bulte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> typed: > > On Mon, May 01, 2006 at 01:23:40PM +, Maslan wrote.. > > > On 5/1/06, Dag-Erling Smørgrav <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > >

Re: Zero Copy, FreeBSD and Linus Torvalds opinion

2006-05-01 Thread Mike Meyer
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Wilko Bulte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> typed: > On Mon, May 01, 2006 at 01:23:40PM +, Maslan wrote.. > > On 5/1/06, Dag-Erling Smørgrav <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >> If you watch Revolution OS, Linus points out that his main thing for

Re: Zero Copy, FreeBSD and Linus Torvalds opinion

2006-05-01 Thread Wilko Bulte
On Mon, May 01, 2006 at 10:09:36AM -0400, Jamie Bowden wrote.. > On 5/1/06, Lucas Holt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >On May 1, 2006, at 9:23 AM, Maslan wrote: > >> > >> That's right, but sunos (earlier than solaris) was based on bsd. > >> www : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunos > > >Sun OS is

Re: Zero Copy, FreeBSD and Linus Torvalds opinion

2006-05-01 Thread Wilko Bulte
On Mon, May 01, 2006 at 09:47:54AM -0400, Lucas Holt wrote.. > > On May 1, 2006, at 9:23 AM, Maslan wrote: > > > >That's right, but sunos (earlier than solaris) was based on bsd. > >www : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunos > > > > Sun OS is how I got into BSD. My first sparc had sunos 4.21 on it

Re: Zero Copy, FreeBSD and Linus Torvalds opinion

2006-05-01 Thread Wilko Bulte
On Mon, May 01, 2006 at 01:23:40PM +, Maslan wrote.. > On 5/1/06, Dag-Erling Smørgrav <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> If you watch Revolution OS, Linus points out that his main thing for > >> doing Linux was that he wanted something like he had used at the >

Re: Boot manager beep (revisited)

2006-05-01 Thread John Baldwin
On Monday 01 May 2006 08:22, Eric Anderson wrote: > Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > > On 2006-05-01 03:29, Luigi Rizzo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> On Mon, May 01, 2006 at 01:15:44PM +0300, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > >> ... > >>> I'd certainly prefer it if the beep was turned *off* by default, > >>>

Re: Boot manager beep (revisited)

2006-05-01 Thread John Baldwin
On Monday 01 May 2006 09:07, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > On 2006-05-01 15:03, Daniel Lang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Alex Zbyslaw wrote on Mon, May 01, 2006 at 10:31:34AM +0100: > > [..] > > > >off by setting WITHOUT_BOOTEASY_BEEP in `/etc/src.conf'. > > [..] > > > WITH_BOOTEASY_BEEP so that it'

Re: Boot manager beep (revisited)

2006-05-01 Thread John Baldwin
On Monday 01 May 2006 08:17, Alex Zbyslaw wrote: > Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > > >I'd certainly prefer it if the beep was turned *off* by default, > >but I'm not sure if that's what everyone prefers. This is why I > >opted for keeping the current behavior and making my personal > >preference an op

Re: Zero Copy, FreeBSD and Linus Torvalds opinion

2006-05-01 Thread Allen
On Monday 01 May 2006 9:47 am, Lucas Holt wrote: > On May 1, 2006, at 9:23 AM, Maslan wrote: > > That's right, but sunos (earlier than solaris) was based on bsd. > > www : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunos > > Sun OS is how I got into BSD. My first sparc had sunos 4.21 on it. > It was definitely

Re: Zero Copy, FreeBSD and Linus Torvalds opinion

2006-05-01 Thread Jamie Bowden
On 5/1/06, Lucas Holt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On May 1, 2006, at 9:23 AM, Maslan wrote: > > That's right, but sunos (earlier than solaris) was based on bsd. > www : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunos Sun OS is how I got into BSD. My first sparc had sunos 4.21 on it. It was definitely BSD.

Re: Zero Copy, FreeBSD and Linus Torvalds opinion

2006-05-01 Thread Lucas Holt
On May 1, 2006, at 9:23 AM, Maslan wrote: That's right, but sunos (earlier than solaris) was based on bsd. www : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunos Sun OS is how I got into BSD. My first sparc had sunos 4.21 on it. It was definitely BSD. It makes sense considering Bill Joy co- founded

Re: Zero Copy, FreeBSD and Linus Torvalds opinion

2006-05-01 Thread Maslan
On 5/1/06, Dag-Erling Smørgrav <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > If you watch Revolution OS, Linus points out that his main thing for > doing Linux was that he wanted something like he had used at the > university he was at and he says it was SunOS. Sun OS / Solaris,

Re: Boot manager beep (revisited)

2006-05-01 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2006-05-01 15:03, Daniel Lang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Alex Zbyslaw wrote on Mon, May 01, 2006 at 10:31:34AM +0100: > [..] > > >off by setting WITHOUT_BOOTEASY_BEEP in `/etc/src.conf'. > [..] > > WITH_BOOTEASY_BEEP so that it's off by default unless you turn it on > > Regardless what you d

Re: Boot manager beep (revisited)

2006-05-01 Thread Daniel Lang
Hi, Alex Zbyslaw wrote on Mon, May 01, 2006 at 10:31:34AM +0100: [..] > >off by setting WITHOUT_BOOTEASY_BEEP in `/etc/src.conf'. [..] > WITH_BOOTEASY_BEEP so that it's off by default unless you turn it on Regardless what you decide, if such an option is created, please call it WITH/WITHOUT_BOOT

Re: Boot manager beep (revisited)

2006-05-01 Thread Eric Anderson
Giorgos Keramidas wrote: On 2006-05-01 07:22, Eric Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Maybe an alternate option is to compile both the beeping and a beepless boot loader, and have the boot0cfg program install the right one depending on a command line option? Hmm.. Maybe that's too cheesy..

Re: Boot manager beep (revisited)

2006-05-01 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2006-05-01 07:22, Eric Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Maybe an alternate option is to compile both the beeping and a beepless > boot loader, and have the boot0cfg program install the right one > depending on a command line option? Hmm.. Maybe that's too cheesy.. It is kind of overkill

Re: Boot manager beep (revisited)

2006-05-01 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2006-05-01 13:17, Alex Zbyslaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Giorgos Keramidas wrote: >> I'd certainly prefer it if the beep was turned *off* by default, >> but I'm not sure if that's what everyone prefers. This is why I >> opted for keeping the current behavior and making my personal >> preferen

Re: Boot manager beep (revisited)

2006-05-01 Thread Alex Zbyslaw
Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote: Alex Zbyslaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: At the same time I also patched so that NTFS filesystem was recognised as "DOS", to get rid of the ?? on standard dual-boot Win/FreeBSD machines. Huh? I did that more than a year ago: You beat me to it then ;-)

Re: Boot manager beep (revisited)

2006-05-01 Thread Eric Anderson
Giorgos Keramidas wrote: On 2006-05-01 03:29, Luigi Rizzo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Mon, May 01, 2006 at 01:15:44PM +0300, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: ... I'd certainly prefer it if the beep was turned *off* by default, but I'm not sure if that's what everyone prefers. This is why I opted for

Re: Boot manager beep (revisited)

2006-05-01 Thread Alex Zbyslaw
Giorgos Keramidas wrote: I'd certainly prefer it if the beep was turned *off* by default, but I'm not sure if that's what everyone prefers. This is why I opted for keeping the current behavior and making my personal preference an option :) The beep didn't appear until 5.X (and generated quit

Re: Boot manager beep (revisited)

2006-05-01 Thread Dag-Erling Smørgrav
Alex Zbyslaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > At the same time I also patched so that NTFS filesystem was > recognised as "DOS", to get rid of the ?? on standard dual-boot > Win/FreeBSD machines. Huh? I did that more than a year ago: [EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/src% ncvs log -r1.14 sys/boot/i386/boot0/b

Re: Zero Copy, FreeBSD and Linus Torvalds opinion

2006-05-01 Thread Dag-Erling Smørgrav
Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > If you watch Revolution OS, Linus points out that his main thing for > doing Linux was that he wanted something like he had used at the > university he was at and he says it was SunOS. Sun OS / Solaris, are > straight BSD. Wrong. Solaris is SysV with some BSD b

Re: Boot manager beep (revisited)

2006-05-01 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2006-05-01 03:29, Luigi Rizzo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, May 01, 2006 at 01:15:44PM +0300, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > ... > > I'd certainly prefer it if the beep was turned *off* by default, > > but I'm not sure if that's what everyone prefers. This is why I > > opted for keeping the

Re: Boot manager beep (revisited)

2006-05-01 Thread Luigi Rizzo
On Mon, May 01, 2006 at 01:15:44PM +0300, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: ... > I'd certainly prefer it if the beep was turned *off* by default, > but I'm not sure if that's what everyone prefers. This is why I > opted for keeping the current behavior and making my personal > preference an option :) i d

Re: Boot manager beep (revisited)

2006-05-01 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2006-05-01 10:31, Alex Zbyslaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Giorgos Keramidas wrote: >>On 2006-04-30 22:34, Eric Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> This thread: >>> http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2005-December/020572.html >>> >>> mentions a patch to disable the boot manage

Re: Boot manager beep (revisited)

2006-05-01 Thread Alex Zbyslaw
Giorgos Keramidas wrote: On 2006-04-30 22:34, Eric Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: This thread: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2005-December/020572.html mentions a patch to disable the boot manager beep, and also discusses having it optional. Does something like th