On Thursday, 10 May 2007 at 20:20:42 -0700, Garrett Cooper wrote:
> David Naylor wrote:
> >Dear Jordan
> >
> >Recently I stumbled across a document you wrote in 2001, entitled "FreeBSD
> >installation and package tools, past, present and future". I find FreeBSD
> >appealing and I would like to c
Garrett,
Sounds like you're involved in a cool project. What kind of
community collaboration/involvement would be helpful to you?
Once, a long, long time ago, I wrote quite a bit of bdb 1.85
code. At that time it WAS the current version :) I might
actually remember a bit if I start working wit
Kris Kennaway wrote:
> It seems to me that you do not appreciate the reasons behind this
> conservatism. A very important one is that we have two students who
> have committed to spending their summer working on improving the
> existing pkg_tools in ways that will solve some of the real problems
On Sat, May 12, 2007 at 11:44:22PM +0200, Michel Talon wrote:
> On Sat, May 12, 2007 at 03:33:02PM -0400, Kris Kennaway wrote:
> > On Sat, May 12, 2007 at 11:09:35AM +0200, Michel Talon wrote:
> >
> > > Seriously, the FreeBSD package
> > > system is in great need of a profound overhaul, pretending
On Sat, May 12, 2007 at 03:33:02PM -0400, Kris Kennaway wrote:
> On Sat, May 12, 2007 at 11:09:35AM +0200, Michel Talon wrote:
>
> > Seriously, the FreeBSD package
> > system is in great need of a profound overhaul, pretending it works well
> > is complete denial of reality. I hope that young peop
Seriously, the FreeBSD package system is in great need of a profound
overhaul, pretending it works well is complete denial of reality. I
hope that young people working on summer code projects will infuse
*new* ideas, and not spend their vacations polishing inadequate tools.
Hmm? Works fine f
On Sat, May 12, 2007 at 11:25:58PM +0200, Ivan Voras wrote:
> Kris Kennaway wrote:
>
> > First figure out what specific problems need to be solved, then figure
> > out how to solve them, not the other way around. So far I have seen
> > little discussion of how SQLite is necessary and sufficient f
Kris Kennaway wrote:
> First figure out what specific problems need to be solved, then figure
> out how to solve them, not the other way around. So far I have seen
> little discussion of how SQLite is necessary and sufficient for fixing
> fundamental issues. The argument in favour of SQL seems t
David Naylor wrote:
>
> I am looking at a hybrid approach to storing the package metadata, a
> combination of SQLite and compressed text files. I am hoping to create a
> situation where if either gets corrupted it can be created from the other.
... throwing away transaction safety, as it me
On Sat, May 12, 2007 at 11:09:35AM +0200, Michel Talon wrote:
> Seriously, the FreeBSD package
> system is in great need of a profound overhaul, pretending it works well
> is complete denial of reality. I hope that young people working on
> summer code projects will infuse *new* ideas, and not sp
On May 12, 2007, at 5:14 AM, Philippe Laquet wrote:
Stanislav Sedov a écrit :
On Fri, 11 May 2007 02:10:05 +0200
Ivan Voras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> mentioned:
- I think it's time to give up on using BDB+directory tree full
of text
files for storing the installed packages database, and I propos
On May 12, 2007, at 5:14 AM, Philippe Laquet wrote:
Stanislav Sedov a écrit :
On Fri, 11 May 2007 02:10:05 +0200
Ivan Voras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> mentioned:
- I think it's time to give up on using BDB+directory tree full
of text
files for storing the installed packages database, and I propos
On May 10, 2007, at 5:54 AM, Darren Reed wrote:
[...]
But if if_em is probing, it suggests a VMware
change rather than a FreeBSD change, which you may be able to
revert by
telling it to expose a Lance-style device as opposed to an Intel
device.
There's no way to choose the type of card
Hi all,
I want to install freebsd-6.2 on my new laptop rather than win vista,
but by doing some googling i found that almost everything will not work.
any resources/links for drivers even if still untested, i would like to help.
Thanks
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So Even If U Need Portabi
Stanislav Sedov wrote:
> I agree, that there's a lot of ready tools for parsing xml, but why
> not use much simple language that can be parsed by sed or awk in few
> lines?
Because of mindshare. Young people know SQL and XML, but not grep.
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Stanislav Sedov wrote:
> On Fri, 11 May 2007 02:10:05 +0200
> Ivan Voras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> mentioned:
>
>> - I think it's time to give up on using BDB+directory tree full of text
>> files for storing the installed packages database, and I propose all of
>> this be replaced by a single SQLite dat
On 2007-May-12 11:09:35 +0200, Michel Talon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>- first i don't suppose sqlite3 is busted, since i suppose it is in the
> base system and it works by definition.
It can happen that base system utilities become unusable for various
reasons: Maybe an installworld went wrong
On Sat, 12 May 2007 14:14:39 +0200
Philippe Laquet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> mentioned:
> >
> XML could be an altertative to order packages, it can be parsed with
> some limited dependencies like PERL. The userland tools to manage
> packages could be based on that language? It is well known by many
> use
Ivan Voras wrote:
> In my (limited) experience, this sort of task should not depend much on
> the speed of the language. The most CPU-intensive task portupgrade does
> is resolving dependencies, and on a running system this is a DAG forest
> of about 500 nodes. I know portupgrade has some highly u
Stanislav Sedov a écrit :
On Fri, 11 May 2007 02:10:05 +0200
Ivan Voras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> mentioned:
- I think it's time to give up on using BDB+directory tree full of text
files for storing the installed packages database, and I propose all of
this be replaced by a single SQLite database.
> cyclic dependancies in it!), but still, in itself, I think the choice of
> Ruby isn't performance-critical.
ruby2.0 will come with a virtual machine which should speed up things. ruby2.0
is expected "soon enough" (2008?)
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Hi all,
I would like to present to you the new utility to deal with the ports
system. The main goal of this project is to provide one common tool
for managing ports and packages instead of relying on many
applications (pkg_add, pkg_delete, pkg_info, pkg_version etc.).
Actually it is a smart wrapp
On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 10:01:46PM -0400, Mike Meyer wrote:
> In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Michel Talon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> typed:
> > One of the most obvious being that the sqlite database can be edited
> > as easily as a pure textfile using the sqlite3 program
>
> Huh? They can? With a pure textfile,
On Fri, 11 May 2007 02:10:05 +0200
Ivan Voras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> mentioned:
> - I think it's time to give up on using BDB+directory tree full of text
> files for storing the installed packages database, and I propose all of
> this be replaced by a single SQLite database. SQLite is public domain
>
Jona Joachim wrote:
> I don't think it would be a good idea to use SQLite for this purpose.
> First of all using the file system is the Unix way of doing things. It's
> efficient and easy to use, it transparent and user friendly. You can
> simply run vi to inspect a text file but you can't do thi
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