On Thu, 3 Jul 2008, Lothar Braun wrote:
Robert Watson wrote:
My primary concern about some of these replacement installer projects is
that they've placed a strong focus on making them graphical -- I actually
couldn't care less about GUIs (and I think they actually hurt my
configurations, sin
I've picked out one or two of your complaints only.
On Thursday 03 July 2008 00:16, Curtis Penner wrote:
> Let us take this further.
>
> Let's compare BSD to the Linux install solutions. Well, lets not, Linux
> is so far ahead of BSD. Linux understands the user.
Really? I tried installing Kubun
On Wed, 02 Jul 2008 22:13:23 -0400
"Aryeh M. Friedman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Currently I keep a local cvs/svn mirror of the public repo I update
> my sources via cvs not c(v)sup... I just got a laptop and I want it to
> use my desktop (where the local repo is) as a cvsup server wh
Robert Watson wrote:
My
primary concern about some of these replacement installer projects is
that they've placed a strong focus on making them graphical -- I
actually couldn't care less about GUIs (and I think they actually hurt
my configurations, since I use serial consoles a lot), but what
Dear Antoine Brunel,
I completely 100% agree. Actually I don't see the need for a new
sysinstall. It does what it needs to do. I have seen the later
RH- and SUSE-Installer, but I don't want them. What's the use of
a graphical installer?
The only thing endusers might need is the choice of installi
Antoine BRUNEL wrote:
> In conclusion, I can agree you in that the "sysinstall" soft is a bit
> out-dated, but it respond on a need of a BSD philosophy: just installing
> a working operating system. All the later tasks have to be done by
> "hands". But that's exactly what I wanted when I replac
On Wed, 2008-07-02 at 11:23 -0700, Rob Lytle wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> My depressing analysis- YMMV. I've used FreeBSD since 1998.
>
> 1..Installing the packages off of the menu on the 3 CDROMs is an incredibly
> tedious miserable process. I had to switch out the CD's around 40 times.
> If you don't
Hi all,
I've been writing a small kernel module, that provides information about
modification of the filesystem to user_land/userspace through the
character device. I'm using FreeBSD 4.10
So, my question is: Is there any way to get file name knowing its descriptor?
static int
xxx_write (struct p
Hi all,
I've been writing a small kernel module, that provides information about
modification of the filesystem to user_land/userspace through the
character device. I'm using FreeBSD 4.10
So, my question is: Is there any way to get file name knowing its descriptor?
static int
xxx_write (struct p
Hi,
I am trying to setup kgdb on serial console in freebsd. I have done
the following steps.
1. Compile the kernel with the following options
options DDB
options KDB
makeoptions DEBUG-g
2.Installed the kernel on the target machine.
3. Transferred the kernel.debug to h
it seems that there is no way to change the speed/baudrate of the serial
console, for example, by turning it off in /etc/ttys, and running
tip(1) with different speeds has no effect, it always
stays at the kernel configured speed.
is this by design?
danny
On Thu, 2008-07-03 at 11:33 +0200, Michel Talon wrote:
> Antoine BRUNEL wrote:
>
> > In conclusion, I can agree you in that the "sysinstall" soft is a bit
> > out-dated, but it respond on a need of a BSD philosophy: just installing
> > a working operating system. All the later tasks have to be
S> I changed the patch slightly to work with FreeBSD 6.3-RELEASE. That's
S> attached, in case anyone needs this later.
Can i apply this patch to 6.2-RELEASE?
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On Thu, Jul 03, 2008 at 03:21:14PM +0300, Danny Braniss wrote:
> it seems that there is no way to change the speed/baudrate of the serial
> console, for example, by turning it off in /etc/ttys, and running
> tip(1) with different speeds has no effect, it always
> stays at the kernel configured spee
> On Thu, Jul 03, 2008 at 03:21:14PM +0300, Danny Braniss wrote:
> > it seems that there is no way to change the speed/baudrate of the serial
> > console, for example, by turning it off in /etc/ttys, and running
> > tip(1) with different speeds has no effect, it always
> > stays at the kernel confi
On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 12:50 PM, Fernando Apesteguía
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I'm experiencing several kernel crashes with the GENERIC kernel and
> with custom kernels as well. One of my MP3 players seems to be
> recognized, but if I disconnect it from the USB port (even without
> m
On Thu, 3 Jul 2008, Uladzislau Rezki wrote:
I've been writing a small kernel module, that provides information about
modification of the filesystem to user_land/userspace through the character
device. I'm using FreeBSD 4.10
So, my question is: Is there any way to get file name knowing its
d
On Thu, Jul 03, 2008 at 05:34:27PM +0300, Danny Braniss wrote:
> > On Thu, Jul 03, 2008 at 03:21:14PM +0300, Danny Braniss wrote:
> > > it seems that there is no way to change the speed/baudrate of the serial
> > > console, for example, by turning it off in /etc/ttys, and running
> > > tip(1) with
Holger Kipp wrote:
I completely 100% agree. Actually I don't see the need for a new
sysinstall. It does what it needs to do. I have seen the later
RH- and SUSE-Installer, but I don't want them. What's the use of
a graphical installer?
One big problem with the current installer: The
current ke
Hello All,
I have a rather simple question. I am running the 6.2 kernel and calru
is called when top is run in a loop. One of the things calcru does is
walk to threads of a process and checks if the thread is running and if
it asserts that its tdoncpu field be anything but NOCPU. In our case,
Lothar Braun schrieb:
Robert Watson wrote:
My primary concern about some of these replacement installer projects
is that they've placed a strong focus on making them graphical -- I
actually couldn't care less about GUIs (and I think they actually
hurt my configurations, since I use serial cons
Is there already a way for public read-only svn access to FreeBSD src
repository?
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On Thu, Jul 03, 2008 at 07:09:41PM +0300, Andriy Gapon wrote:
>
> Is there already a way for public read-only svn access to FreeBSD src
> repository?
svn://svn.freebsd.org/base/
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on 03/07/2008 19:36 Brooks Davis said the following:
> On Thu, Jul 03, 2008 at 07:09:41PM +0300, Andriy Gapon wrote:
>> Is there already a way for public read-only svn access to FreeBSD src
>> repository?
>
> svn://svn.freebsd.org/base/
>
Thank you!
The branch/tag hierarchy organization is quite
Robert Watson wrote:
On Thu, 3 Jul 2008, Lothar Braun wrote:
Robert Watson wrote:
My primary concern about some of these replacement installer projects
is that they've placed a strong focus on making them graphical -- I
actually couldn't care less about GUIs (and I think they actually
hurt
On Thu, Jul 03, 2008 at 07:40:48PM +0300, Andriy Gapon wrote:
> on 03/07/2008 19:36 Brooks Davis said the following:
> > On Thu, Jul 03, 2008 at 07:09:41PM +0300, Andriy Gapon wrote:
> >> Is there already a way for public read-only svn access to FreeBSD src
> >> repository?
> >
> > svn://svn.freeb
Lothar Braun wrote:
What about having two utilities for the installation process? Something
like a very small (non-gui/non-X) version of "sysinstall" that just
installs a base system and only has the functionality to
- partition/label a disk
- configure the network (if needed for installation
Uladzislau Rezki wrote:
Hi all,
I've been writing a small kernel module, that provides information about
modification of the filesystem to user_land/userspace through the
character device. I'm using FreeBSD 4.10
So, my question is: Is there any way to get file name knowing its descriptor?
wel
> Robert Watson wrote:
>> On Thu, 3 Jul 2008, Lothar Braun wrote:
>>
>>> Robert Watson wrote:
>>>
My primary concern about some of these replacement installer
projects
is that they've placed a strong focus on making them graphical
-- I
actually couldn't care less about GUI
Tim Kientzle wrote:
I don't think a graphical installer is necessarily
the answer to this. Simply obeying long-established
conventions for keyboard usage (ENTER selects the
thing under the cursor, for instance, instead of
having to TAB to the "OK" button first) would go
a long ways.
The versi
Mike Makonnen has some very interesting ideas on this topic:
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-current/2007-December/081400.html
FWIW, I think that there are 3 basic requirements for a new installer:
1. It should be library-based and therefore be capable of supporting
at least a few di
I want to use getrusage to see how much time a program is using. But
this is a multithreaded program, and I just want the time taken by that
particular thread!
I know this info must be available somewhere, because top -H seems to
provide it. But getrusage seems to give the total rusage for t
On Wed, 2 Jul 2008 23:36:09 -0400
"Sean Cavanaugh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This is the first time I ever actually downloaded all 3 CD's so i
> didn't know what I was getting into. I had always just used the
> first CD for the initial install, then ports for everything else.
> Next time I wi
:well, not really, at least not the name by which it was looked up.
:you MIGHT (sometimes) be able to use the directory name cache to work
:it out.. At one stage it was possible to do this for some percentage
:of the files but I dont remember if it was possible in 4.x.
:
:the idea is that you can
2008/7/3 Doug Barton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 1. It should be library-based and therefore be capable of supporting at
> least a few different UIs (see above).
> 2. At least one of those UIs should be functional over a standard serial
> console.
> 3. It should be scriptable.
I was thinking of doing
Doug Barton wrote:
> Mike Makonnen has some very interesting ideas on this topic:
> http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-current/2007-December/081400.html
>
> FWIW, I think that there are 3 basic requirements for a new installer:
>
> 1. It should be library-based and therefore be capable o
>I want to use getrusage to see how much time a program is using. But
>this is a multithreaded program, and I just want the time taken by that
>particular thread!
>
>I know this info must be available somewhere, because top -H seems to
>provide it. But getrusage seems to give the total rusage
> Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 21:28:50 -0700
> From: "Rob Lytle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Hi All,
>
> I'm sorry I started a kind of flame war. All I wanted was two things: 1.
> CD's that installed without being switched in and out dozens of times. That
> was fixed by the s
Hi all
I suggest this "flame" to stop right now... because everybody is ok
finally
I agree with Rob in the fact that 'sysinstall' is a bit disturbing tool
with its way of working: the "enter" key, the error messages if HTTP
source is unavailable, etc
and I confess I had to re-insta
On Thu, 3 Jul 2008 23:21:00 +0200
Michel Talon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> evolve easily. The argument that there sould be no external dependency
> seems to me inspired by the NIH syndrom.
I think your seeming is wrong. I believe it's inspired by the belief
that the base system should be self-rep
Sergey Babkin wrote:
I want to use getrusage to see how much time a program is using. But
this is a multithreaded program, and I just want the time taken by that
particular thread!
I know this info must be available somewhere, because top -H seems to
provide it. But getrusage seems to give
Hi Kevin,
The sysinstall dependency problem has existed for 10 years, so I doubt that
its unique to me. It has occurred in every installation I have ever done.
I use portupgrade for all ports.
i strongly disagree with using ports for huge packages. I don't have the
time to waste compiling. P
Rob Lytle wrote:
Hi Kevin,
The sysinstall dependency problem has existed for 10 years, so I doubt that
its unique to me. It has occurred in every installation I have ever done.
I use portupgrade for all ports.
i strongly disagree with using ports for huge packages. I don't have the
time to
Hi all,
We have just purchased some servers with a view to
using them as firewalls within our WAN, and have discovered that
they are suject to a massive interrupt storm on IRQ17.
systat -v is showing 59000 -> 63000 interrupts continuously
on this IRQ, and 90%->98% Interrupt CPU usage
The serve
On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 9:33 PM, Stephen Montgomery-Smith <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Rob Lytle wrote:
>
>> Hi Kevin,
>>
>> The sysinstall dependency problem has existed for 10 years, so I doubt
>> that
>> its unique to me. It has occurred in every installation I have ever done.
>>
>> I use por
Murray Taylor wrote:
ideas ?
What shows `vmstat -i`?
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Rob Lytle wrote:
On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 9:33 PM, Stephen Montgomery-Smith <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Rob Lytle wrote:
Hi Kevin,
The sysinstall dependency problem has existed for 10 years, so I doubt
that
its unique to me. It has occurred in every installation I have ever done.
I use port
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> To: Murray Taylor
> Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org
> Subject: Re: massive interrupt storm
>
> Murray Taylor wrote:
> > ideas ?
>
> What show
On 2008-07-03, Rob Lytle wrote:
> > You can get rid of the nag screens by putting "BATCH=yes" into
> > /etc/make.conf. (Not that this negates your other points.)
>
> What the hell does "yes" mean? That all option boxes are checked, or none
> at all? I have never seen this explained anywhere.
Rob Lytle wrote:
You can get rid of the nag screens by putting "BATCH=yes" into
/etc/make.conf. (Not that this negates your other points.)
What the hell does "yes" mean? That all option boxes are checked, or none
at all? I have never seen this explained anywhere.
It means, "yeah, what
Murray Taylor wrote:
irq17: mpt0 uhci1* 680341376 57301
Did you try to disable USB in BIOS? (yes, you don't have PS/2,
but you can use SSH for testing)
Also did you try to disable ACPI?
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