mmap on emulated i386

2013-09-17 Thread Rui Paulo
The length argument doesn't really make any difference. At this point I'm thinking it's a bug... -- Rui Paulo ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any

Re: how to make a etc/rc.d start at boot time

2013-08-10 Thread Rui Paulo
estart -- works > XXX_enable="YES" -- fails Please post your script. -- Rui Paulo ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hackers-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"

Re: clang mangling some static struct names?

2012-11-18 Thread Rui Paulo
ucture (so > this is not name mangling in the true sense). I just don't see the > point in doing things this way. It is only making things harder for > debuggers. It's likely that FreeBSD's gdb has to grow support for this new symbol format. Have you tried using th

Re: FreeBSD needs Git to ensure repo integrity [was: 2012 incident]

2012-11-18 Thread Rui Paulo
something to say about it: http://wiki.freebsd.org/GitDrawbacks Regards, -- Rui Paulo ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hackers-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"

Removal of libobjc

2010-10-15 Thread Rui Paulo
Hi, I was hoping we could remove libobjc from the base system as it's seriously outdated and it's not used by anything on the base system. If there are any objections, please speak up. Regards, -- Rui Paulo ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.o

Re: Removal of libobjc

2010-10-15 Thread Rui Paulo
On 15 Oct 2010, at 20:19, Roman Divacky wrote: > On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 08:15:52PM +0100, Rui Paulo wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I was hoping we could remove libobjc from the base system as it's seriously >> outdated and it's not used by anything on the base syste

Re: Intel TurboBoost in practice

2010-07-24 Thread Rui Paulo
org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hackers-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" > > > Use the link below to report this message as

Re: amd64 kernel modules: mapping sections to addresses

2010-06-26 Thread Rui Paulo
> Reviews and testing are welcome! I believe this is good to go. Regards, -- Rui Paulo ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hackers-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"

Re: Activate PCIe slot deactivated by BIOS

2010-05-26 Thread Rui Paulo
On 26 May 2010, at 07:55, Dominic Fandrey wrote: On 25/05/2010 13:57, Rui Paulo wrote: On 22 May 2010, at 13:27, Dominic Fandrey wrote: On 22/05/2010 13:47, Dominic Fandrey wrote: Today the card arrived and the BIOS complains (HP 6510b): 104-Unsupported wireless network device detected

Re: Activate PCIe slot deactivated by BIOS

2010-05-25 Thread Rui Paulo
r card isn't part of the Centrino brand, so they halt if they find an Atheros. Your best option is to change the Atheros card EEPROM to match the device and vendor id of your wpi card. Then you also need to change the ath driver to attach to t

Re: disabling all serial input / output at boot time

2010-04-15 Thread Rui Paulo
On 15 Apr 2010, at 18:24, Mike Tancsa wrote: > At 12:59 PM 4/15/2010, Rui Paulo wrote: > >> If not, maybe there's some way to do this by changing the hints file. > > Prior to /boot/loader running, is that even consulted ? Right, I missed that...

Re: disabling all serial input / output at boot time

2010-04-15 Thread Rui Paulo
of a workaround than a fix, but does it work any better >>> if you connect the device to com2 instead of com1? >> >> >> Unfortunately there is only one serial port on the board we are using. > > yes but can the bios map it to be com2? If not, maybe there's

Re: NIC MAC problem

2010-04-10 Thread Rui Paulo
model you have. Regards, -- Rui Paulo ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hackers-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"

Re: virtual machine on mac os x 10.6 to run FreeBSD ?

2010-03-26 Thread Rui Paulo
> for me. > > Ross VirtualBox works fine last time I tried (last year) but you need to keep playing with the options to find a configuration that works. I was never able to use SCSI disks, for example. -- Rui Paulo ___ freebsd-hackers@freeb

Re: ARM and structure size boundary

2010-01-21 Thread Rui Paulo
ple of 4. struct a { int8_t b; int8_t b; }; sizeof(struct a) on FreeBSD/arm is 4 and not 2. To make sure it will get the correct value, you need to type: struct a { ... } __packed; -- Rui Paulo ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.or

Re: [patch] add pwait utility

2009-11-07 Thread Rui Paulo
On 7 Nov 2009, at 07:02, Ulrich Spörlein wrote: I understand that shutdown duration is of zero importance for server operations, FWIW, I don't agree with this. -- Rui Paulo ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebs

Re: SB7xx watchdog: new driver for review and testing

2009-10-19 Thread Rui Paulo
On 19 Oct 2009, at 16:41, Andriy Gapon wrote: I have put updated version of the driver (C file only) here: http://people.freebsd.org/~avg/amdsbwd.c Looks good to me. -- Rui Paulo ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http

Re: SB7xx watchdog: new driver for review and testing

2009-10-19 Thread Rui Paulo
ank you very much for your help. The driver looks good in general. A few questions: - Can you make the magic numbers a define ? Where did they come from ? - Are you missing a device_set_desc() call ? - If this is what you want to commit, C++ comments are not allow

Re: genuine cpu I386_CPU kernel support

2009-09-23 Thread Rui Paulo
ficer dropped it. -- Rui Paulo ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hackers-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"

Re: genuine cpu I386_CPU kernel support

2009-09-23 Thread Rui Paulo
n 4.x, but I think at least the older ones are. -- Rui Paulo ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hackers-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"

Re: Common interface for sensors/health monitoring

2009-08-23 Thread Rui Paulo
o ``stanza'' or whatever, just human nature. Regardless of what I just said, the topic keeps coming back and that's a clear sign that a framework should be developed and, possibly, in a way that appeals to both parties. -- Rui Paulo ___

Re: Reading acpi memory from a driver attached to hostb

2009-07-18 Thread Rui Paulo
On 18 Jul 2009, at 09:10, Andre Albsmeier wrote: On Fri, 17-Jul-2009 at 12:53:53 -0700, Julian Elischer wrote: Andre Albsmeier wrote: [CC'ing this to Rui Paulo since he tried to help me a while ago] Since my driver is a child of hostb0, I have no idea of how to access acpi0's m

Re: 7.2-PRERELEASE hangs every time after running airodump-ng on ath0 for a few hours

2009-06-11 Thread Rui Paulo
t the hang. It would help if you could provide the backtrace. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/developers-handbook/kerneldebug-gdb.html Also, you may want to try HEAD because monitor mode has changed quite a bit in HEAD. Regards, -- Rui Paulo PGP.sig Description: This is a digitally sign

Re: MosChip 7840 dual port ucom

2009-05-30 Thread Rui Paulo
), rev 0.01 Thanks in advance. I believe this isn't supported under FreeBSD. The Linux driver is mos7840.c. Might not be very hard to do a FreeBSD driver. Regards, -- Rui Paulo -- Rui Paulo PGP.sig Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: writing libnetstat for Summer of Code 2009

2009-03-16 Thread Rui Paulo
this than I do and since he mentioned libmemstat, opaque C structs are probably what he was thinking. -- Rui Paulo PGP.sig Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: writing libnetstat for Summer of Code 2009

2009-03-16 Thread Rui Paulo
to structure the data. I know that XML was proposed in the past, but I don't know if this is the case. -- Rui Paulo PGP.sig Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: INTR_FILTER?

2009-02-02 Thread Rui Paulo
On 2 Feb 2009, at 12:01, Andriy Gapon wrote: on 02/02/2009 13:53 Rui Paulo said the following: On 2 Feb 2009, at 11:38, Andriy Gapon wrote: on 30/01/2009 00:30 Rui Paulo said the following: On 29 Jan 2009, at 17:51, Andriy Gapon wrote: BTW, INTR_FILTER seems quite useful. Why, then, it is

Re: INTR_FILTER?

2009-02-02 Thread Rui Paulo
On 2 Feb 2009, at 11:38, Andriy Gapon wrote: on 30/01/2009 00:30 Rui Paulo said the following: On 29 Jan 2009, at 17:51, Andriy Gapon wrote: BTW, INTR_FILTER seems quite useful. Why, then, it is not the default? The drivers would have to be ported to INTR_FILTER. Right now, only asmc is

Re: Mackbook pro nvidia based video backlight

2009-01-31 Thread Rui Paulo
, but I never actually did it. Regards, -- Rui Paulo PGP.sig Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: Mackbook pro nvidia based video backlight

2009-01-31 Thread Rui Paulo
never actually did it. Regards, -- Rui Paulo PGP.sig Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: INTR_FILTER?

2009-01-29 Thread Rui Paulo
On 29 Jan 2009, at 17:51, Andriy Gapon wrote: on 29/01/2009 19:17 Rui Paulo said the following: On 29 Jan 2009, at 11:47, Andriy Gapon wrote: INTR_FILTER - what does it do? It doesn't seem to be documented anywhere, but seems to affect interrupt code. INTR_FILTER allows you to ski

Re: INTR_FILTER?

2009-01-29 Thread Rui Paulo
On 29 Jan 2009, at 11:47, Andriy Gapon wrote: INTR_FILTER - what does it do? It doesn't seem to be documented anywhere, but seems to affect interrupt code. INTR_FILTER allows you to skip the FILTER+ITHREAD headache. See dev/asmc/asmc.c for an example. -- Rui

Re: INTR_FILTER?

2009-01-29 Thread Rui Paulo
On 29 Jan 2009, at 11:47, Andriy Gapon wrote: INTR_FILTER - what does it do? It doesn't seem to be documented anywhere, but seems to affect interrupt code. INTR_FILTER allows you to skip the FILTER+ITHREAD headache. See dev/asmc/asmc.c for an example. -- Rui

Re: Mackbook pro nvidia based video backlight

2009-01-28 Thread Rui Paulo
27;t know about NVIDIA. -- Rui Paulo ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hackers-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"

Re: Mackbook pro nvidia based video backlight

2009-01-28 Thread Rui Paulo
27;t know about NVIDIA. -- Rui Paulo ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hackers-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"

Re: Mackbook pro nvidia based video backlight

2009-01-27 Thread Rui Paulo
is kind of functionality. Why not? Sysctl seems perfect to handle this. -- Rui Paulo ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hackers-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"

Re: Writing device drivers: How to access a specific memory area?

2008-12-25 Thread Rui Paulo
my driver to read some configuration data. Is this pci configuration space ? If so, pci_read_config (man 9 pci) should be just what you need. Regards, -- Rui Paulo ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/

Re: FreeBSD development

2008-11-02 Thread Rui Paulo
, -- Rui Paulo ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"

Re: svn rev. number

2008-10-01 Thread Rui Paulo
[EMAIL PROTECTED] :/home/rpaulo/freebsd/obj/home/rpaulo/freebsd/base/head/sys/ALPHA `ident /boot/kernel/kernel' also works. Regards, -- Rui Paulo -- Rui Paulo ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/

Re: Creation of the NO_SSP build knob

2008-09-04 Thread Rui Paulo
On Thu, Sep 04, 2008 at 02:46:53PM +0200, Jeremie Le Hen wrote: > Hello, > > There is currently a knob to enable/disable SSP: WITH_SSP or > WITHOUT_SSP. WITH_SSP is the default on -CURRENT, so no one had to put > WITH_SSP= in src.conf(5). This has hidden the following bug so far: > > When build

Re: killing a kthread

2008-09-03 Thread Rui Paulo
uspend also performs > same actions. > Does scheduler take care to killing it? > > I read that after 2 min scheduler wakes up the thread and > eventually kills it, > i see the same kthread suspended even after a day > > I would appreciate any thoughts in this reagard

Re: tilt/horizontal scroll support

2008-08-13 Thread Rui Paulo
your mouse ? sysmouse(4) really needs to grow horizontal scrolling since nowadays every mouse has it. Regards, -- Rui Paulo ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"

Re: Suggestion for 'pkg_add -r'

2008-08-07 Thread Rui Paulo
4.5 MB at 149.5 kB/s Something's wrong :-) Also, may I suggest that you make your output similar to fetch(1) ? Keep up the good work, -- Rui Paulo ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"

Re: AuthenticAMD, cpufreq and SunFire X2200

2008-07-11 Thread Rui Paulo
e moment to dig that up. -- Rui Paulo ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"

Re: eeePC 900 && turning off wireless (ath0)

2008-07-07 Thread Rui Paulo
vents of acpi_UserNotify() are converted into the string > '_SB_.ATKD', any idea where to look; They are not converted, your devd.conf entries are probably wrong. Can you show again where do you get _SB_.ATKD from? -- Rui Paulo ___ freebsd-ha

Re: eeePC 900 && turning off wireless (ath0)

2008-07-04 Thread Rui Paulo
On Fri, Jul 04, 2008 at 04:40:02PM +0200, Matthias Apitz wrote: > El día Tuesday, July 01, 2008 a las 12:14:26PM +0100, Rui Paulo escribió: > > > On Tue, Jul 01, 2008 at 11:02:20AM +0200, Matthias Apitz wrote: > > > Rui, > > > Have you commited your changes to REL

Re: Custom VESA modes on FreeBSD 7?

2008-07-02 Thread Rui Paulo
to add a correct ModeLine to your xorg config file ? A quick Google search returned: http://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?t=59 HTH, -- Rui Paulo ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"

Re: eeePC 900 && turning off wireless (ath0)

2008-07-01 Thread Rui Paulo
nce Only to HEAD. I'm going to MFC it today. Regards, -- Rui Paulo ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"

Re: eeePC 900 && turning off wireless (ath0)

2008-06-29 Thread Rui Paulo
here; > > thanks for your work and help; Cool, no problem. -- Rui Paulo ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"

Re: eeePC 900 && turning off wireless (ath0)

2008-06-27 Thread Rui Paulo
I could provide their script > /etc/acpi/wlan.sh if someone wants to have a look into; If turning off WLAN is now done via ACPI events, then the patch I committed to HEAD will probably help. I'll MFC it in a week, but if you can give it a try, that would be great. P

Re: eeePC 900 && turning off wireless (ath0)

2008-06-26 Thread Rui Paulo
s what Fn+F2 does, it ejects the wireless card). Regards, -- Rui Paulo ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"

Re: mplayer pauses when holding a window

2008-06-05 Thread Rui Paulo
anyone experienced this issue? > > I'm running mplayer-0.99.11_4 (I configured it to use esound), > gnome2-lite-2.22.0, xorg 7.3 on FreeBSD 7.0 (ULE)/ia32. This is normal behavior and I think this is a Window Manager issue, not a FreeBSD

Re: rdmsr from userspace

2008-05-18 Thread Rui Paulo
ata that don't belong to sysctl, but overall, I don't think we are abusing it. Creating a /dev node, handling ioctl's, etc. is much more work and error prone. That's all. At least for me. Regards, -- Rui Paulo ___ freebsd-hackers@

Re: rdmsr from userspace

2008-05-18 Thread Rui Paulo
Mike Meyer wrote: On Sun, 18 May 2008 16:50:28 +0100 Rui Paulo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Mike Meyer wrote: On Sat, 17 May 2008 11:13:52 +0300 Andriy Gapon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: It seems that rdmsr instruction can be executed only at the highest privilege level and thus is n

Re: rdmsr from userspace

2008-05-18 Thread Rui Paulo
Kostik Belousov wrote: On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 04:47:41PM +0100, Rui Paulo wrote: Kostik Belousov wrote: On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 06:26:01PM +0100, Rui Paulo wrote: Andriy Gapon wrote: on 17/05/2008 18:37 Rui Paulo said the following: Andriy Gapon wrote: It seems that rdmsr instruction can

Re: rdmsr from userspace

2008-05-18 Thread Rui Paulo
a rdmsr within the sysctl tree? I don't think sysctl is appropriate here either. -- Rui Paulo ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"

Re: rdmsr from userspace

2008-05-18 Thread Rui Paulo
Kostik Belousov wrote: On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 06:26:01PM +0100, Rui Paulo wrote: Andriy Gapon wrote: on 17/05/2008 18:37 Rui Paulo said the following: Andriy Gapon wrote: It seems that rdmsr instruction can be executed only at the highest privilege level and thus is not permitted from

Re: rdmsr from userspace

2008-05-17 Thread Rui Paulo
Andriy Gapon wrote: on 17/05/2008 18:37 Rui Paulo said the following: Andriy Gapon wrote: It seems that rdmsr instruction can be executed only at the highest privilege level and thus is not permitted from userland. Maybe we should provide something like Linux /dev/cpu/msr? I don't

Re: rdmsr from userspace

2008-05-17 Thread Rui Paulo
issue MSRs. Both for security and reliability reasons. Regards, -- Rui Paulo ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"

Re: FreeBSD OS Detection and Uptime

2008-03-23 Thread Rui Paulo
sysctl -d net.inet.tcp.drop_synfin net.inet.tcp.drop_synfin: Drop TCP packets with SYN+FIN set Regards. -- Rui Paulo ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"

Re: cx_lowest and CPU usage

2008-03-09 Thread Rui Paulo
0:7:3 0x58 03040c07 Attached is a patch that fixes the issue for me (without any side-effects) and should not cause any harm for others. I committed your patch. Thanks! Regards, -- Rui Paulo ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebs

Re: cx_lowest and CPU usage

2008-02-22 Thread Rui Paulo
, val, 4); + } break; default: break; ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-acpi To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-acpi- [EMAIL PROTECTED]" -- Rui Paulo _

Re: GPT - (last) call for action

2007-06-12 Thread Rui Paulo
barfing on having two slices which overlap each other. > > So it really does make sense for them to point the MBR at sector 40. > The more I think about it, the more sense it makes. And also, if they used two partitions that would mean you would only have one partition left for installing Windows. -- Rui Paulo ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"

Re: GPT - (last) call for action

2007-06-12 Thread Rui Paulo
reserve space for the boot partition, but they just scribble enough > to this space to indicate that the partition isn't actually bootable: > > # dd if=/dev/disk0s1 bs=512 count=409600 | hexdump -C Yes, this partition is just FAT32 without anything in it. -- Rui Paulo

Re: GPT - (last) call for action

2007-06-11 Thread Rui Paulo
At Sun, 10 Jun 2007 23:13:59 +0100, Rui Paulo wrote: > > At Sun, 10 Jun 2007 14:43:26 -0700 (PDT), > Matthew Dillon wrote: > > > > > > :No. > > :The first partition is the EFI GPT (0xee): > > : > > :% fdisk -1 > > :*** Working on device /

Re: GPT - (last) call for action

2007-06-11 Thread Rui Paulo
At Mon, 11 Jun 2007 12:41:18 -0700, Chuck Swiger wrote: > > Hi, all-- > > On Jun 10, 2007, at 3:13 PM, Rui Paulo wrote: > >> :Media sector size is 512 > >> :Warning: BIOS sector numbering starts with sector 1 > >> :Information from DOS bootblock is: > &g

Re: GPT - (last) call for action

2007-06-10 Thread Rui Paulo
e set to 1 by definition > (table 11-7 in the 1.10 documentation). I don't know why Apple does that. -- Rui Paulo ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"

Re: GPT - (last) call for action

2007-06-10 Thread Rui Paulo
t sector 0 start size index contents 0 1 MBR 1 1 Pri GPT header 2 32 Pri GPT table 34 6 40 409600 1 GPT part - EFI System 409640 419

Re: FreeBSD 5/6/7 kernel emulator for NetBSD 2.x

2005-10-29 Thread Rui Paulo
On 2005.10.29 00:01:42 -0600, M. Warner Losh wrote: | In message: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | Rui Paulo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | : On 2005.10.26 10:22:52 -0700, Bill Studenmund wrote: | : | On Mon, Oct 24, 2005 at 10:35:47PM +0200, Hans Petter Selasky wrote: | : | >