Re: C coding editor

2003-03-05 Thread Alex Zepeda
On Sun, Feb 23, 2003 at 10:17:16AM -0800, Wes Peters wrote: > I completely utterly fail to understand why some young developers attach > some sort of romance to writing code on an 80x25 screen, when all the > haxxors my age or older waited (or slaved away) for years, even > decades, to get some

Re: C coding editor

2003-03-02 Thread Doug Barton
On Sun, 2 Mar 2003, Sean Hamilton wrote: > I suppose Pascal would be alright in variable width, but certainly not C. I > tried using variable with for C a while back, and the main problem I had was > not with spacing, but my severely defective ocular receptors were unable to > distingush between a

Re: C coding editor

2003-03-02 Thread Sean Hamilton
Wes Peters wrote: | On Saturday 01 March 2003 03:12 pm, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: || The font of the program text isn't really important, as long as || nesting isn't horribly broken by someone who typed the wrong number || of spaces instead of just hitting tab. | | But the font of the program text *

Re: C coding editor

2003-03-01 Thread Wes Peters
On Saturday 01 March 2003 03:12 pm, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > On 2003-02-28 07:52, Terry Lambert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Wes Peters wrote: > > > No, but your editor really ought to be able to interpret tab > > > stops correctly at like 0.5 in increments. Code editors on the > > > Mac have

Re: C coding editor

2003-03-01 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2003-02-28 07:52, Terry Lambert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Wes Peters wrote: > > No, but your editor really ought to be able to interpret tab stops > > correctly at like 0.5 in increments. Code editors on the Mac have > > been doing this for years. > > If editors like this were more common, i

Re: C coding editor

2003-02-28 Thread Terry Lambert
David Cuthbert wrote: > The n characters/line issue deals more with the ability to visually > track the line. If, for example, when you reach the end of the line you > often find yourself accidentally reading the same line again, then the > line is too wide. > > Or something to that effect. I'm

Re: C coding editor

2003-02-28 Thread Wes Peters
On Friday 28 February 2003 07:52, Terry Lambert wrote: > > I blame this on people unsuited to writing software getting CS > degrees and/or programming jobs, because they think that that's where > the money is at. Luckily, they later find out that salary is a > matter of merit, much more than it's

Re: C coding editor

2003-02-28 Thread David Cuthbert
Terry Lambert wrote: Average English word length is 5 characters; with a space, that's 6 characters. 65 characters is therefore 11 words. The Bell Labs study which set telephone number length limits at 7 digits found that the average person could keep between 5 and 9 items in memory at a time. I

Re: C coding editor

2003-02-28 Thread Terry Lambert
Wes Peters wrote: > On Wednesday 26 February 2003 09:57 am, Jason Andresen wrote: > > Even if I never have to print out on a printer like that, who's to > > say nobody else is? You will no doubt turn people away if they open > > up your code in their favorite programming editor and all of the > >

Re: C coding editor

2003-02-28 Thread Terry Lambert
David Cuthbert wrote: > Wes Peters wrote: > > Seriously, limiting your programming for a lifetime to 80 columns > > because you couldn't figure out how to make some grotty old dot > > matrix printer do 8-point printing a decade ago really isn't all > > that smart, is it? > > No, but I still find 8

Re: C coding editor

2003-02-27 Thread Wes Peters
On Wednesday 26 February 2003 09:57 am, Jason Andresen wrote: > Wes Peters wrote: > > > Seriously, limiting your programming for a lifetime to 80 columns > > because you couldn't figure out how to make some grotty old dot > > matrix printer do 8-point printing a decade ago really isn't all > > that

Re: C coding editor

2003-02-27 Thread David Cuthbert
Wes Peters wrote: Seriously, limiting your programming for a lifetime to 80 columns because you couldn't figure out how to make some grotty old dot matrix printer do 8-point printing a decade ago really isn't all that smart, is it? No, but I still find 80 columns to be a reasonable limit. The aver

Re: C coding editor

2003-02-26 Thread Jan Grant
On Wed, 26 Feb 2003, Jason Andresen wrote: > Very few compilers accept code with formatting markup beyond > ^Ls and TABs. You can't compile a Word document. As we plunge completely off topic, there is (was) at least one literate programming system that grokked winword. -- jan grant, ILRT, Un

Re: C coding editor

2003-02-26 Thread Jason Andresen
Wes Peters wrote: e your last scan of this sector. ;^) Seriously, limiting your programming for a lifetime to 80 columns because you couldn't figure out how to make some grotty old dot matrix printer do 8-point printing a decade ago really isn't all that smart, is it? Even if I never have to print

Re: C coding editor

2003-02-26 Thread Wes Peters
On Monday 24 February 2003 08:43, Jason Andresen wrote: > Stacy Millions wrote: > > Wes Peters wrote: > >> Terminal? You have heard of this really cool thing called > >> windowing software? ;^) > >> > >> I completely utterly fail to understand why some young developers > >> attach some sort of ro

Re: C coding editor

2003-02-24 Thread Jason Andresen
Stacy Millions wrote: Wes Peters wrote: Terminal? You have heard of this really cool thing called windowing software? ;^) I completely utterly fail to understand why some young developers attach some sort of romance to writing code on an 80x25 screen, when all the haxxors my age or older wai

Re: C coding editor

2003-02-24 Thread Stacy Millions
Wes Peters wrote: Terminal? You have heard of this really cool thing called windowing software? ;^) I completely utterly fail to understand why some young developers attach some sort of romance to writing code on an 80x25 screen, when all the haxxors my age or older waited (or slaved away) f

Re: C coding editor

2003-02-23 Thread Kent Stewart
On Sunday 23 February 2003 10:17 am, Wes Peters wrote: > On Friday 21 February 2003 04:21 am, Clemens Hermann wrote: > > Hi, > > > > what are your favourite editors for coding C? While vi on the first > > terminal, cc on second and runs on the third is fine for very small > > things I doubt it is t

Re: C coding editor

2003-02-23 Thread Wes Peters
On Friday 21 February 2003 04:21 am, Clemens Hermann wrote: > Hi, > > what are your favourite editors for coding C? While vi on the first > terminal, cc on second and runs on the third is fine for very small > things I doubt it is the way people do it here. Terminal? You have heard of this really

Re: C coding editor

2003-02-21 Thread Leo Bicknell
In a message written on Fri, Feb 21, 2003 at 03:49:06PM +0200, Peter Pentchev wrote: > that people might be used to. Basically, vi and cc need just one > terminal, no more :) I'll insert one editor comment. While it becomes obvious to most people who use emacs (doubly true for emacs native in X,

Re: C coding editor

2003-02-21 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2003-02-21 15:49, Peter Pentchev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Feb 21, 2003 at 01:21:03PM +0100, Clemens Hermann wrote: > > what are your favourite editors for coding C? While vi on the first > > terminal, cc on second and runs on the third is fine for very small > > things I doubt it is

Re: C coding editor

2003-02-21 Thread Peter Pentchev
On Fri, Feb 21, 2003 at 01:21:03PM +0100, Clemens Hermann wrote: > Hi, > > what are your favourite editors for coding C? While vi on the first > terminal, cc on second and runs on the third is fine for very small > things I doubt it is the way people do it here. > I know there is a unlimited numbe

Re: C coding editor

2003-02-21 Thread Friedemann Becker
> first of all, thanks a lot for the quick and helpful answers to all! > > > I think the freebsd developers handbook could give you some additional > > hints, you can read it at > > href="http://www.de.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/developers-handbook/index.html";>http://www.de.freebsd.org/

Re: C coding editor

2003-02-21 Thread Clemens Hermann
Am 21.02.2003 um 14:13:04 schrieb Friedemann Becker: Hi, first of all, thanks a lot for the quick and helpful answers to all! > I think the freebsd developers handbook could give you some additional > hints, you can read it at > href="http://www.de.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/developer

Re: C coding editor (fwd)

2003-02-21 Thread Friedemann Becker
There are many different possibilities, more or less overloaded, more or less sophisticated ;-) My personal favourite is XEmacs, because it's highly keyboard-oriented (good for 10-finger-typing or what it's called in english) and you can do everything from it (compile and jump to the error in the

C coding editor

2003-02-21 Thread Clemens Hermann
Hi, what are your favourite editors for coding C? While vi on the first terminal, cc on second and runs on the third is fine for very small things I doubt it is the way people do it here. I know there is a unlimited number of editors / ways to code but I'd be glad to get a recommendation what is u