--On Saturday, June 22, 2002 02:36:44 PM +0200 Neil Blakey-Milner
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There is always the option
to use SSL, which is my preference, but unfortunately neither SSL nor
SASL have widespread IMAP client support yet.
Most IMAP clients I know of support SSL. Outlook,
On Sat, Jun 22, 2002 at 02:36:44PM +0200, Neil Blakey-Milner wrote:
On Sat 2002-06-22 (00:06), Chris Dillon wrote:
There is always the option
to use SSL, which is my preference, but unfortunately neither SSL nor
SASL have widespread IMAP client support yet.
Most IMAP clients I know of
Chris Dillon wrote:
While I appreciate the positive support of Cyrus, I guess I need to
point out that this approach only works if you are willing to send
passwords over the wire in plaintext.
Yes, but this is the case with any IMAP server and doesn't really have
anything to do with
On Sat 2002-06-22 (00:06), Chris Dillon wrote:
Yes, but this is the case with any IMAP server and doesn't really have
anything to do with Cyrus in particular. Unlike other IMAP servers,
however, Cyrus supports SASL which offers plenty of non-plain-text
authentication options, unfortunately
Terry == Terry Lambert [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Terry Personally, I think SASL should have specified that you
Terry crypt(3) the passwords, and then use the resulting hash as
Terry the password value for the shared secret on both ends. At
Terry least that way, you would not
On Sat, 22 Jun 2002, Neil Blakey-Milner wrote:
On Sat 2002-06-22 (00:06), Chris Dillon wrote:
Yes, but this is the case with any IMAP server and doesn't really
have anything to do with Cyrus in particular. Unlike other IMAP
servers, however, Cyrus supports SASL which offers plenty of
Lyndon Nerenberg wrote:
Terry Personally, I think SASL should have specified that you
Terry crypt(3) the passwords, and then use the resulting hash as
Terry the password value for the shared secret on both ends. At
Terry least that way, you would not have to pass cleartext to
On Thu, 20 Jun 2002, Terry Lambert wrote:
Lamont Granquist wrote:
Cyrus imapd is a real pain in the ass to administer local user accounts
with though.
You mean that it doesn't integrate well with the UNIX credentials
system. THe issue here is that Cyrus needs to be able to hook
Lamont Granquist wrote:
Cyrus imapd is a real pain in the ass to administer local user accounts
with though.
You mean that it doesn't integrate well with the UNIX credentials
system. THe issue here is that Cyrus needs to be able to hook
create/delete actions on accounts, and UNIX
Brandon D. Valentine wrote:
On Thu, 20 Jun 2002, Darren Pilgrim wrote:
Personally I'm all for courier-imap. IMAP and POP3, Maildirs, SSL, and
the ability to access both real and virtual mailboxes.
See my other recent message about the security implications of running
courier-imap.
On Fri, 21 Jun 2002, Terry Lambert wrote:
It has functionality that can not be implemented without adding to
how UNIX does things. Basically, it needs to be able to hook the
account constructor/destructor.
It's quite simple to integrate Cyrus IMAP with the local system.
Cyrus will by
Chris Dillon wrote:
On Fri, 21 Jun 2002, Terry Lambert wrote:
It has functionality that can not be implemented without adding to
how UNIX does things. Basically, it needs to be able to hook the
account constructor/destructor.
It's quite simple to integrate Cyrus IMAP with the local
Terry Lambert wrote:
Chris Dillon wrote:
It's quite simple to integrate Cyrus IMAP with the local system.
Cyrus will by default use the system password database for its
authentication,
While I appreciate the positive support of Cyrus, I guess I need
to point out that this approach only
On Fri, 21 Jun 2002, Terry Lambert wrote:
Chris Dillon wrote:
On Fri, 21 Jun 2002, Terry Lambert wrote:
It has functionality that can not be implemented without adding to
how UNIX does things. Basically, it needs to be able to hook the
account constructor/destructor.
It's quite
On Thu, 20 Jun 2002, Jason Andresen wrote:
I thought the strength of uw-imap was that it was fairly easy to
configure for a machine with local users.
The strength of uw-imap is clearly that it's fairly easy to allow remote
users to root your machine. courier-imap has a bit better track record
On Thu, 20 Jun 2002, Darren Pilgrim wrote:
Personally I'm all for courier-imap. IMAP and POP3, Maildirs, SSL, and
the ability to access both real and virtual mailboxes.
See my other recent message about the security implications of running
courier-imap. Also, maildirs are a mediocre idea for
Jason Andresen wrote:
Brandon D. Valentine wrote:
On Tue, 18 Jun 2002, Darren Pilgrim wrote:
It's not exactly FreeBSD, but how about rewriting pine and uw-imap?
Last I heard they could use a little work.
It would have to be a complete reimplementation thanks to the retarded
pine
Cyrus imapd is a real pain in the ass to administer local user accounts
with though. The cyradm program is extremely deficient. Its great if you
want to offer people imap e-mail without offering them shell access. For
local access, though, there's a higher administrative overhead. I'm back
Darren Pilgrim wrote:
Personally I'm all for courier-imap. IMAP and POP3, Maildirs, SSL, and
the ability to access both real and virtual mailboxes.
Courrier is derived from one of the two under discussion, just
like the Netscape IMAP server.
-- Terry
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Lamont Granquist wrote:
Cyrus imapd is a real pain in the ass to administer local user accounts
with though.
You mean that it doesn't integrate well with the UNIX credentials
system. THe issue here is that Cyrus needs to be able to hook
create/delete actions on accounts, and UNIX fails to
On Tue, 18 Jun 2002, Darren Pilgrim wrote:
It's not exactly FreeBSD, but how about rewriting pine and uw-imap?
Last I heard they could use a little work.
It would have to be a complete reimplementation thanks to the retarded
pine license. Besides, pine has been surpassed and it's called mutt.
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for that matter), but I hereby offer them up. I'm a student at the
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Evan Dower wrote:
I don't know who might have use of my services (or what my services might be
for that matter), but I hereby offer them up. I'm a student at the
University of Washington and I'll be applying to the Computer Science major
in February. I'd like to get involved with the OS
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I don't know who might have use of my services (or what my services might
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