Re: i386 with PAE or AMD64 on PowerEdge with 4G RAM

2007-06-22 Thread Bert JW Regeer
On Jun 21, 2007, at 6:24 PM, Julian H. Stacey wrote: =?utf-8?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=C3=B8rgrav?= wrote: Jeremy Chadwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Like I said, I don't run 64-bit OSes because I prefer compatibility. Believe me, the instant you run into some quirky problem with either the kernel or

Re: i386 with PAE or AMD64 on PowerEdge with 4G RAM

2007-06-22 Thread Julian H. Stacey
Bert JW Regeer wrote: --Apple-Mail-2-183841032 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed On Jun 21, 2007, at 6:24 PM, Julian H. Stacey wrote: You broke the header, sending 2 seperate mails with same content, so

Re: i386 with PAE or AMD64 on PowerEdge with 4G RAM

2007-06-22 Thread Mike Meyer
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Julian H. Stacey [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed: A while back I reverted my AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3000+ (2010.06-MHz 686-class CPU) from 64 to 32 bit, 'cos of bad ports. ls /var/db/pkg | wc -l # 536 Not that I use them all, they just accumulate. FreeBSD is as

Re: i386 with PAE or AMD64 on PowerEdge with 4G RAM

2007-06-21 Thread Dag-Erling Smørgrav
Mike Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I find that extremely ironic. I've spent most of the last two days trying to put together a Linux system with python 2.5 (or later) and lxml 1.2 (or later), because I need to add an oracle library to it. While both FreeBSD and darwin ports (where I do

Re: i386 with PAE or AMD64 on PowerEdge with 4G RAM

2007-06-21 Thread Dag-Erling Smørgrav
Jeremy Chadwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Like I said, I don't run 64-bit OSes because I prefer compatibility. Believe me, the instant you run into some quirky problem with either the kernel or any of its subsystems, or a third-party program (from ports or otherwise), the first thing you'll be

Re: i386 with PAE or AMD64 on PowerEdge with 4G RAM

2007-06-21 Thread Mike Meyer
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dag-Erling Smørgrav [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed: Mike Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I find that extremely ironic. I've spent most of the last two days trying to put together a Linux system with python 2.5 (or later) and lxml 1.2 (or later), because I need to add an

Re: i386 with PAE or AMD64 on PowerEdge with 4G RAM

2007-06-21 Thread Julian H. Stacey
=?utf-8?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=C3=B8rgrav?= wrote: Jeremy Chadwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Like I said, I don't run 64-bit OSes because I prefer compatibility. Believe me, the instant you run into some quirky problem with either the kernel or any of its subsystems, or a third-party program (from

Re: i386 with PAE or AMD64 on PowerEdge with 4G RAM

2007-06-19 Thread Stefan Lambrev
Hi, Martin Turgeon wrote: Good afternoon, I just receive 2 PowerEdge servers (a 1950 and a 860) both with 4G of RAM. I installed FreeBSD 6.2 Release i386 on both of them. Unfortunately, only 3,5G is recognized on the 860 and 3,3G on the 1950. dmesg on 860: real memory = 3757834240 (3583

Re: i386 with PAE or AMD64 on PowerEdge with 4G RAM

2007-06-19 Thread Martin Turgeon
Thank you all for your advices, I will take a try with AMD64. I'm always impressed by the support on the FreeBSD mailinglist, continue your good work. Martin Stefan Lambrev a écrit : Hi, Martin Turgeon wrote: Good afternoon, I just receive 2 PowerEdge servers (a 1950 and a 860) both

i386 with PAE or AMD64 on PowerEdge with 4G RAM

2007-06-18 Thread Martin Turgeon
Good afternoon, I just receive 2 PowerEdge servers (a 1950 and a 860) both with 4G of RAM. I installed FreeBSD 6.2 Release i386 on both of them. Unfortunately, only 3,5G is recognized on the 860 and 3,3G on the 1950. dmesg on 860: real memory = 3757834240 (3583 MB) avail memory = 3678318592

Re: i386 with PAE or AMD64 on PowerEdge with 4G RAM

2007-06-18 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Mon, Jun 18, 2007 at 01:03:44PM -0400, Martin Turgeon wrote: I just receive 2 PowerEdge servers (a 1950 and a 860) both with 4G of RAM. I installed FreeBSD 6.2 Release i386 on both of them. Unfortunately, only 3,5G is recognized on the 860 and 3,3G on the 1950. dmesg on 860: real

Re: i386 with PAE or AMD64 on PowerEdge with 4G RAM

2007-06-18 Thread Mike Meyer
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Jeremy Chadwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed: On Mon, Jun 18, 2007 at 01:03:44PM -0400, Martin Turgeon wrote: I just receive 2 PowerEdge servers (a 1950 and a 860) both with 4G of RAM. I installed FreeBSD 6.2 Release i386 on both of them. Unfortunately, only 3,5G

Re: i386 with PAE or AMD64 on PowerEdge with 4G RAM

2007-06-18 Thread Mark Linimon
On Mon, Jun 18, 2007 at 02:35:59PM -0400, Mike Meyer wrote: While both FreeBSD and darwin ports (where I do development) have all the appropriate bits except oracle, the Linux distros don't have any of them in their packaging systems. It might be nice to point that out to Oracle, as a way to

Re: i386 with PAE or AMD64 on PowerEdge with 4G RAM

2007-06-18 Thread Mike Meyer
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mark Linimon [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed: On Mon, Jun 18, 2007 at 02:35:59PM -0400, Mike Meyer wrote: While both FreeBSD and darwin ports (where I do development) have all the appropriate bits except oracle, the Linux distros don't have any of them in their packaging

Re: i386 with PAE or AMD64 on PowerEdge with 4G RAM

2007-06-18 Thread Martin Turgeon
2007/6/18, Jeremy Chadwick [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Mon, Jun 18, 2007 at 01:03:44PM -0400, Martin Turgeon wrote: I just receive 2 PowerEdge servers (a 1950 and a 860) both with 4G of RAM. I installed FreeBSD 6.2 Release i386 on both of them. Unfortunately, only 3,5G is recognized on the 860

Re: i386 with PAE or AMD64 on PowerEdge with 4G RAM

2007-06-18 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Mon, Jun 18, 2007 at 05:15:30PM -0400, Martin Turgeon wrote: 2007/6/18, Jeremy Chadwick [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Mon, Jun 18, 2007 at 01:03:44PM -0400, Martin Turgeon wrote: I just receive 2 PowerEdge servers (a 1950 and a 860) both with 4G of RAM. I installed FreeBSD 6.2 Release i386

Re: i386 with PAE or AMD64 on PowerEdge with 4G RAM

2007-06-18 Thread Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri
On 6/19/07, Martin Turgeon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2007/6/18, Jeremy Chadwick [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Mon, Jun 18, 2007 at 01:03:44PM -0400, Martin Turgeon wrote: I just receive 2 PowerEdge servers (a 1950 and a 860) both with 4G of RAM. I installed FreeBSD 6.2 Release i386 on both of

Re: i386 with PAE or AMD64 on PowerEdge with 4G RAM

2007-06-18 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Mon, Jun 18, 2007 at 05:15:30PM -0400, Martin Turgeon wrote: My setup is fairly standard (as I described), should I expect problem with 64 bit version of these programs? Like I said, I don't run 64-bit OSes because I prefer compatibility. Believe me, the instant you run into some quirky

Re: i386 with PAE or AMD64 on PowerEdge with 4G RAM

2007-06-18 Thread Mike Meyer
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Jeremy Chadwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed: On Mon, Jun 18, 2007 at 05:15:30PM -0400, Martin Turgeon wrote: My setup is fairly standard (as I described), should I expect problem with 64 bit version of these programs? Like I said, I don't run 64-bit OSes because I prefer

Re: i386 with PAE or AMD64 on PowerEdge with 4G RAM

2007-06-18 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Mon, Jun 18, 2007 at 03:10:22PM -0700, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: On Mon, Jun 18, 2007 at 05:15:30PM -0400, Martin Turgeon wrote: My setup is fairly standard (as I described), should I expect problem with 64 bit version of these programs? Like I said, I don't run 64-bit OSes because I

RE: i386 with PAE or AMD64 on PowerEdge with 4G RAM

2007-06-18 Thread Jan Mikkelsen
Martin Turgeon wrote: ... I am facing a difficult decision. Should I use i386 with PAE enabled in the kernel (I read a lot of warnings using it) or should I go with AMD64? Which branch should I follow? These servers will be front-end/back-end MySQL(with replication) and Apache servers

Re: i386 with PAE or AMD64 on PowerEdge with 4G RAM

2007-06-18 Thread mjacob
On Mon, 18 Jun 2007, Kris Kennaway wrote: On Mon, Jun 18, 2007 at 03:10:22PM -0700, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: On Mon, Jun 18, 2007 at 05:15:30PM -0400, Martin Turgeon wrote: My setup is fairly standard (as I described), should I expect problem with 64 bit version of these programs? Like I