Re: power supplies

2001-09-30 Thread babkin
Dan wrote: I had the stangest situation today where a new nic card was put into a machine and then the machine did not start up. Placed the old nic card back in the box and it still did not start up. Switched power supplies with an exactly equal box and both machine booted up fine. This has

Re: power supplies

2001-09-30 Thread Ronald G Minnich
helped. Though I don't know why it happens. I've seen similar stuff although have not (yet) fried a PS. I've had chipset lockup that requred unplugging AC for 30+ seconds before it was resolved. A simple power cycle with the power switch was not sufficient. Bear in mind that power supplies

Re: power supplies

2001-09-30 Thread Daniel O'Connor
On 01-Oct-2001 Ronald G Minnich wrote: I've seen similar stuff although have not (yet) fried a PS. I've had chipset lockup that requred unplugging AC for 30+ seconds before it was resolved. A simple power cycle with the power switch was not sufficient. We found this problem at work due to

Re: power supplies

2001-09-28 Thread Karsten W. Rohrbach
smoke? did it stink? does it still stink, even if it's turned off? q3 if answered with yes means that the electret condenser are gone. had this with a whole series of korean 300va atx power supplies. you don't happen to have those nice nvidia or voodoo agp4x cards in there, don't you? if yes

Re: power supplies

2001-09-28 Thread Wilko Bulte
On Fri, Sep 28, 2001 at 08:38:20AM +0200, Søren Schmidt wrote: It seems Jim Bryant wrote: Kent Stewart wrote: There are problems with PSes when you use NICs with wake up capability. The NIC may exceed the capability of one of your low amperage voltages. How much current can

power supplies

2001-09-27 Thread Dan
I had the stangest situation today where a new nic card was put into a machine and then the machine did not start up. Placed the old nic card back in the box and it still did not start up. Switched power supplies with an exactly equal box and both machine booted up fine. This has happened twice

RE: power supplies

2001-09-27 Thread Daniel O'Connor
On 28-Sep-2001 Dan wrote: I had the stangest situation today where a new nic card was put into a machine and then the machine did not start up. Placed the old nic card back in the box and it still did not start up. Switched power supplies with an exactly equal box and both machine

Re: power supplies

2001-09-27 Thread Kent Stewart
Dan wrote: I had the stangest situation today where a new nic card was put into a machine and then the machine did not start up. Placed the old nic card back in the box and it still did not start up. Switched power supplies with an exactly equal box and both machine booted up fine

Re: power supplies

2001-09-27 Thread Dan
] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Dan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: power supplies Dan wrote: I had the stangest situation today where a new nic card was put into a machine and then the machine did not start up. Placed the old nic card back in the box

Re: power supplies

2001-09-27 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Thu, Sep 27, 2001 at 08:04:40PM -0700, Dan wrote: ya but even putting the old nic back in the machine does not still boot up. I don't think this has to do with the nic but you never know. fxp1: Intel Pro 10/100B/100+ Ethernet You overloaded and burned out the power supply? Kris

Re: power supplies

2001-09-27 Thread Dan
no, it worked when i put it in a different machine that was exactly the same. On Thu, 27 Sep 2001, Kris Kennaway wrote: Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 19:59:05 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Dan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: power

Re: power supplies

2001-09-27 Thread Jim Bryant
Kent Stewart wrote: There are problems with PSes when you use NICs with wake up capability. The NIC may exceed the capability of one of your low amperage voltages. Kent How much current can wake-on-LAN take? I wouldn't think it would be enough to overload a power supply unless it

Re: power supplies

2001-09-27 Thread Kent Stewart
range. The NICs came with a warning that the typical AT power supplies were insufficient. I haven't bought one in a box for quite a while and that was where I saw the warning. Kent jim -- ET has one helluva sense of humor! He's always anal-probing right-wing schizos

Re: damn ATX power supplies...

1999-09-16 Thread Takanori Watanabe
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Nicolas Souchu wrote: On Sun, Sep 12, 1999 at 10:51:13PM +0100, Tony Finch wrote: Peter Wemm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On newer motherboards, it's addressable on the SMB bus (along with the SIMMS, the LM78/LM75/etc, the embedded LM75 in the newer CPU, etc). Anyway,

Re: damn ATX power supplies...

1999-09-16 Thread Nicolas Souchu
On Sun, Sep 12, 1999 at 10:51:13PM +0100, Tony Finch wrote: Peter Wemm pe...@netplex.com.au wrote: On newer motherboards, it's addressable on the SMB bus (along with the SIMMS, the LM78/LM75/etc, the embedded LM75 in the newer CPU, etc). Anyway, the newer devices are programmable to do things

Re: damn ATX power supplies...

1999-09-16 Thread Takanori Watanabe
In message 19990916220426.04...@breizh.free.fr, Nicolas Souchu wrote: On Sun, Sep 12, 1999 at 10:51:13PM +0100, Tony Finch wrote: Peter Wemm pe...@netplex.com.au wrote: On newer motherboards, it's addressable on the SMB bus (along with the SIMMS, the LM78/LM75/etc, the embedded LM75 in the newer

Re: damn ATX power supplies...

1999-09-13 Thread Doug Ambrisko
Just my 2 cents and a staple ... A staple bent properly and wedged in the crimp part of the pin between the green wire to a black wire does the trick for me. Now I turn that machine on via the power switch on the back of the power supply which ATX power supply people are now adding. I have a

Re: damn ATX power supplies...

1999-09-13 Thread Doug Ambrisko
Just my 2 cents and a staple ... A staple bent properly and wedged in the crimp part of the pin between the green wire to a black wire does the trick for me. Now I turn that machine on via the power switch on the back of the power supply which ATX power supply people are now adding. I have a

Re: damn ATX power supplies...

1999-09-13 Thread atrn
On 13 Sep, Doug Ambrisko wrote: A staple bent properly and wedged in the crimp part of the pin between the green wire to a black wire does the trick for me. When building a box of disks (no m/b) we used a paper clip. No m/b meant we could just short the pins and not worry about plugging it in.

Re: damn ATX power supplies...

1999-09-12 Thread Kevin Day
. Sheesh. You could at least speak from _experience_ here. Yeah, you're supposed to tie PE low when you want power... However, in a system I'm working with now, we've discovered that some inexpensive ATX power supplies don't expect to have PE come up immediately when they're given power

Re: damn ATX power supplies...

1999-09-12 Thread Mike Nowlin
Yeah, you're supposed to tie PE low when you want power... However, in a system I'm working with now, we've discovered that some inexpensive ATX power supplies don't expect to have PE come up immediately when they're given power. If you see the symptom that all the LED's on your system dim

Re: damn ATX power supplies...

1999-09-12 Thread Tony Finch
Peter Wemm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On newer motherboards, it's addressable on the SMB bus (along with the SIMMS, the LM78/LM75/etc, the embedded LM75 in the newer CPU, etc). Anyway, the newer devices are programmable to do things like the 4-second power off delay, auto-on with AC, maintain

Re: damn ATX power supplies...

1999-09-12 Thread Mike Smith
any idea on how to force ATX power supplies to restart after a power outage without having someone press the 'power' button on the front panel ? All the motherboards i can find now have their bios with two options: Disabled no automatic restart on power failure

Re: damn ATX power supplies...

1999-09-12 Thread Kevin Day
. Sheesh. You could at least speak from _experience_ here. Yeah, you're supposed to tie PE low when you want power... However, in a system I'm working with now, we've discovered that some inexpensive ATX power supplies don't expect to have PE come up immediately when they're given power

Re: damn ATX power supplies...

1999-09-12 Thread Mike Nowlin
Yeah, you're supposed to tie PE low when you want power... However, in a system I'm working with now, we've discovered that some inexpensive ATX power supplies don't expect to have PE come up immediately when they're given power. If you see the symptom that all the LED's on your system dim

Re: damn ATX power supplies...

1999-09-12 Thread Tony Finch
Peter Wemm pe...@netplex.com.au wrote: On newer motherboards, it's addressable on the SMB bus (along with the SIMMS, the LM78/LM75/etc, the embedded LM75 in the newer CPU, etc). Anyway, the newer devices are programmable to do things like the 4-second power off delay, auto-on with AC, maintain

Re: damn ATX power supplies...

1999-09-11 Thread Peter Wemm
Chuck Robey wrote: On Thu, 9 Sep 1999, Mike Smith wrote: any idea on how to force ATX power supplies to restart after a power outage without having someone press the 'power' button on the front panel ? All the motherboards i can find now have their bios with two options

Re: damn ATX power supplies...

1999-09-11 Thread Peter Wemm
Chuck Robey wrote: On Thu, 9 Sep 1999, Mike Smith wrote: any idea on how to force ATX power supplies to restart after a power outage without having someone press the 'power' button on the front panel ? All the motherboards i can find now have their bios with two options

Re: damn ATX power supplies...

1999-09-10 Thread Chuck Robey
On Thu, 9 Sep 1999, Mike Smith wrote: any idea on how to force ATX power supplies to restart after a power outage without having someone press the 'power' button on the front panel ? All the motherboards i can find now have their bios with two options: Disabled

damn ATX power supplies...

1999-09-09 Thread Luigi Rizzo
hi, any idea on how to force ATX power supplies to restart after a power outage without having someone press the 'power' button on the front panel ? All the motherboards i can find now have their bios with two options: Disabled no automatic restart on power failure

Re: damn ATX power supplies...

1999-09-09 Thread Mike Smith
any idea on how to force ATX power supplies to restart after a power outage without having someone press the 'power' button on the front panel ? All the motherboards i can find now have their bios with two options: Disabled no automatic restart on power failure You

Re: damn ATX power supplies...

1999-09-09 Thread Vince Vielhaber
On Thu, 9 Sep 1999, Luigi Rizzo wrote: hi, any idea on how to force ATX power supplies to restart after a power outage without having someone press the 'power' button on the front panel ? All the motherboards i can find now have their bios with two options: Disabled

Re: damn ATX power supplies...

1999-09-09 Thread Peter Wemm
Mike Smith wrote: any idea on how to force ATX power supplies to restart after a power outage without having someone press the 'power' button on the front panel ? All the motherboards i can find now have their bios with two options: Disabled no automatic restart

Re: damn ATX power supplies...

1999-09-09 Thread Andrew Reilly
On Thu, Sep 09, 1999 at 10:35:52AM -0700, Mike Smith wrote: Disabled no automatic restart on power failure You _should_ be able to change this. none of them is satisfactory especially for picoBSD things such as routers or firewalls where an UPS is overkill... You

Re: damn ATX power supplies...

1999-09-09 Thread David Scheidt
On Fri, 10 Sep 1999, Andrew Reilly wrote: How is it that BIOS settings can affect this? Do they fiddle with some battery-backed switch on the motherboard? The ATX power supply has a lead or two that are always powered. This allows the machine do softpower on. It also means that the bios

RE: damn ATX power supplies...

1999-09-09 Thread Daniel O'Connor
On 09-Sep-99 Luigi Rizzo wrote: any idea on how to force ATX power supplies to restart after a power outage without having someone press the 'power' button on the front panel ? All the motherboards i can find now have their bios with two options: There are no jumpers on the mobo to help

Re: damn ATX power supplies...

1999-09-09 Thread Kris Kirby
Andrew Reilly wrote: I have an ATX system that must be looking for a keyboard-located power switch of some sort. It won't power up unless I unplug the (PS-2) keyboard, and then plug it back in again. That seems as though there's something fairly complicated in the system that _is_ being

damn ATX power supplies...

1999-09-09 Thread Luigi Rizzo
hi, any idea on how to force ATX power supplies to restart after a power outage without having someone press the 'power' button on the front panel ? All the motherboards i can find now have their bios with two options: Disabled no automatic restart on power failure

Re: damn ATX power supplies...

1999-09-09 Thread Mike Smith
any idea on how to force ATX power supplies to restart after a power outage without having someone press the 'power' button on the front panel ? All the motherboards i can find now have their bios with two options: Disabled no automatic restart on power failure You

Re: damn ATX power supplies...

1999-09-09 Thread Vince Vielhaber
On Thu, 9 Sep 1999, Luigi Rizzo wrote: hi, any idea on how to force ATX power supplies to restart after a power outage without having someone press the 'power' button on the front panel ? All the motherboards i can find now have their bios with two options: Disabled

Re: damn ATX power supplies...

1999-09-09 Thread Peter Wemm
Mike Smith wrote: any idea on how to force ATX power supplies to restart after a power outage without having someone press the 'power' button on the front panel ? All the motherboards i can find now have their bios with two options: Disabled no automatic restart

Re: damn ATX power supplies...

1999-09-09 Thread Bruce A. Mah
If memory serves me right, Vince Vielhaber wrote: On Thu, 9 Sep 1999, Luigi Rizzo wrote: any idea on how to force ATX power supplies to restart after a power outage without having someone press the 'power' button on the front panel ? All the motherboards i can find now have their bios

Re: damn ATX power supplies...

1999-09-09 Thread Andrew Reilly
On Thu, Sep 09, 1999 at 10:35:52AM -0700, Mike Smith wrote: Disabled no automatic restart on power failure You _should_ be able to change this. none of them is satisfactory especially for picoBSD things such as routers or firewalls where an UPS is overkill... You

Re: damn ATX power supplies...

1999-09-09 Thread Mike Smith
On Thu, Sep 09, 1999 at 10:35:52AM -0700, Mike Smith wrote: Disabled no automatic restart on power failure You _should_ be able to change this. none of them is satisfactory especially for picoBSD things such as routers or firewalls where an UPS is overkill...

Re: damn ATX power supplies...

1999-09-09 Thread David Scheidt
On Fri, 10 Sep 1999, Andrew Reilly wrote: How is it that BIOS settings can affect this? Do they fiddle with some battery-backed switch on the motherboard? The ATX power supply has a lead or two that are always powered. This allows the machine do softpower on. It also means that the bios

RE: damn ATX power supplies...

1999-09-09 Thread Daniel O'Connor
On 09-Sep-99 Luigi Rizzo wrote: any idea on how to force ATX power supplies to restart after a power outage without having someone press the 'power' button on the front panel ? All the motherboards i can find now have their bios with two options: There are no jumpers on the mobo to help

Re: damn ATX power supplies...

1999-09-09 Thread Kris Kirby
Andrew Reilly wrote: I have an ATX system that must be looking for a keyboard-located power switch of some sort. It won't power up unless I unplug the (PS-2) keyboard, and then plug it back in again. That seems as though there's something fairly complicated in the system that _is_ being

Re: ATX power supplies

1999-08-21 Thread Kevin Day
At 12:29 PM 8/21/99 -0400, Chuck Robey wrote: Anyone know where the spec might be for how ATX power supplies work (especially the interface to the motherboard, and their on'off methods?) Thanks. ftp://download.intel.com/design/motherbd/atx_201.pdf See section 4.2 Kevin To Unsubscribe

Re: ATX power supplies

1999-08-21 Thread Chuck Robey
On Sat, 21 Aug 1999, Kevin Day wrote: At 12:29 PM 8/21/99 -0400, Chuck Robey wrote: Anyone know where the spec might be for how ATX power supplies work (especially the interface to the motherboard, and their on'off methods?) Thanks. ftp://download.intel.com/design/motherbd/atx_201.pdf

ATX power supplies

1999-08-21 Thread Chuck Robey
Anyone know where the spec might be for how ATX power supplies work (especially the interface to the motherboard, and their on'off methods?) Thanks. +--- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice

Re: ATX power supplies

1999-08-21 Thread Kevin Day
At 12:29 PM 8/21/99 -0400, Chuck Robey wrote: Anyone know where the spec might be for how ATX power supplies work (especially the interface to the motherboard, and their on'off methods?) Thanks. ftp://download.intel.com/design/motherbd/atx_201.pdf See section 4.2 Kevin To Unsubscribe

Re: ATX power supplies

1999-08-21 Thread Chuck Robey
On Sat, 21 Aug 1999, Kevin Day wrote: At 12:29 PM 8/21/99 -0400, Chuck Robey wrote: Anyone know where the spec might be for how ATX power supplies work (especially the interface to the motherboard, and their on'off methods?) Thanks. ftp://download.intel.com/design/motherbd/atx_201.pdf