Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

2011-12-15 Thread O. Hartmann
On 12/16/11 07:44, Joe Holden wrote: > Arnaud Lacombe wrote: >> Hi, >> >> On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 2:32 AM, O. Hartmann >> wrote: >>> Just saw this shot benchmark on Phoronix dot com today: >>> >>> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTAyNzA >>> >> it might be worth highlighting that

Re: SCHED_ULE should not be the default

2011-12-15 Thread Attilio Rao
2011/12/15 Mike Tancsa : > On 12/15/2011 11:56 AM, Attilio Rao wrote: >> So, as very first thing, can you try the following: >> - Same codebase, etc. etc. >> - Make the test 4 times, discard the first and ministat for the other 3 >> - Reboot >> - Change the steal_thresh value >> - Make the test 4 t

Re: SCHED_ULE should not be the default

2011-12-15 Thread Mike Tancsa
On 12/15/2011 11:56 AM, Attilio Rao wrote: > So, as very first thing, can you try the following: > - Same codebase, etc. etc. > - Make the test 4 times, discard the first and ministat for the other 3 > - Reboot > - Change the steal_thresh value > - Make the test 4 times, discard the first and minis

Re: SCHED_ULE should not be the default

2011-12-15 Thread Ivan Klymenko
В Thu, 15 Dec 2011 20:02:44 +0100 Attilio Rao пишет: > 2011/12/15 Jeremy Chadwick : > > On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 05:26:27PM +0100, Attilio Rao wrote: > >> 2011/12/13 Jeremy Chadwick : > >> > On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 02:47:57PM +0100, O. Hartmann wrote: > >> >> > Not fully right, boinc defaults to r

Re: SCHED_ULE should not be the default

2011-12-15 Thread Attilio Rao
2011/12/15 Jeremy Chadwick : > On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 05:26:27PM +0100, Attilio Rao wrote: >> 2011/12/13 Jeremy Chadwick : >> > On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 02:47:57PM +0100, O. Hartmann wrote: >> >> > Not fully right, boinc defaults to run on idprio 31 so this isn't an >> >> > issue. And yes, there ar

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

2011-12-15 Thread Freddie Cash
On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 9:58 AM, O. Hartmann wrote: > Am 12/15/11 14:51, schrieb Daniel Kalchev: >> >> On Dec 15, 2011, at 3:25 PM, Stefan Esser wrote: >> >>> Am 15.12.2011 11:10, schrieb Michael Larabel: No, the same hardware was used for each OS. In terms of the software, the stoc

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

2011-12-15 Thread O. Hartmann
Am 12/15/11 14:58, schrieb Daniel Kalchev: > > On Dec 15, 2011, at 3:48 PM, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > > […] >> That said: thrown out, data ignored, done. >> >> Now what? Where are we? We're right back where we were a day or two >> ago; meaning no closer to solving the dilemma reported by users a

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

2011-12-15 Thread O. Hartmann
Am 12/15/11 14:51, schrieb Daniel Kalchev: > > On Dec 15, 2011, at 3:25 PM, Stefan Esser wrote: > >> Am 15.12.2011 11:10, schrieb Michael Larabel: >>> No, the same hardware was used for each OS. >>> >>> In terms of the software, the stock software stack for each OS was used. >> >> Just curious: W

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

2011-12-15 Thread Adrian Chadd
On 15 December 2011 06:49, Tony McC wrote: > I suggest always ignoring benchmarks. They are like reading the > astrology column in a tabloid newspaper.  Instead, try FreeBSD for your > work.  Is it fast enough?  Surely that is all you need to know. FreeBSD > is quite fast enough for my needs and I

Re: SCHED_ULE should not be the default

2011-12-15 Thread Attilio Rao
2011/12/15 Mike Tancsa : > On 12/15/2011 11:42 AM, Attilio Rao wrote: >> >> I'm thinking now to a better test-case for this: can you try that on a >> tmpfs volume? > > There is enough RAM in the box so that it should not touch the disk, and > I was sending the output to /dev/null, so it was not wri

Re: SCHED_ULE should not be the default

2011-12-15 Thread Attilio Rao
2011/12/13 Jeremy Chadwick : > On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 02:47:57PM +0100, O. Hartmann wrote: >> > Not fully right, boinc defaults to run on idprio 31 so this isn't an >> > issue. And yes, there are cases where SCHED_ULE shows much better >> > performance then SCHED_4BSD.  [...] >> >> Do we have any

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

2011-12-15 Thread Randy Schultz
On Thu, 15 Dec 2011, Pieter de Goeje spaketh thusly: -}Detailed results here: -}http://openbenchmarking.org/result/1112113-AR-ORACLELIN37 LOL! Pretty much 2 entirely different systems, even running different screen resolutions. Tnx for this link. -} -}As usual, the phoronix benchmarks are ver

Re: SCHED_ULE should not be the default

2011-12-15 Thread Mike Tancsa
On 12/15/2011 11:42 AM, Attilio Rao wrote: > > I'm thinking now to a better test-case for this: can you try that on a > tmpfs volume? There is enough RAM in the box so that it should not touch the disk, and I was sending the output to /dev/null, so it was not writing to the disk. > > Also what

Re: SCHED_ULE should not be the default

2011-12-15 Thread Attilio Rao
2011/12/14 Mike Tancsa : > On 12/13/2011 7:01 PM, m...@freebsd.org wrote: >> >> Has anyone experiencing problems tried to set sysctl >> kern.sched.steal_thresh=1 ? >> >> I don't remember what our specific problem at $WORK was, perhaps it >> was just interrupt threads not getting serviced fast enou

Re: SCHED_ULE should not be the default

2011-12-15 Thread Attilio Rao
2011/12/15 Mike Tancsa : > On 12/15/2011 11:26 AM, Attilio Rao wrote: >> >> Hi Mike, >> was that just the same codebase with the switch SCHED_4BSD/SCHED_ULE? > > Hi Attilio, >        It was the same codebase. > > >> Could you retry the bench checking CPU usage and possible thread >> migration aroun

Re: SCHED_ULE should not be the default

2011-12-15 Thread Mike Tancsa
On 12/15/2011 11:26 AM, Attilio Rao wrote: > > Hi Mike, > was that just the same codebase with the switch SCHED_4BSD/SCHED_ULE? Hi Attilio, It was the same codebase. > Could you retry the bench checking CPU usage and possible thread > migration around for both cases? I can, but how do

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

2011-12-15 Thread Pieter de Goeje
Op 15-12-2011 8:32, O. Hartmann schreef: Just saw this shot benchmark on Phoronix dot com today: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTAyNzA It may be worth to discuss the sad performance of FBSD in some parts of the benchmark. A difference of a factor 10 or 100 is simply far bey

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

2011-12-15 Thread Tony McC
On Thu, 15 Dec 2011 08:32:48 +0100 "O. Hartmann" wrote: > Just saw this shot benchmark on Phoronix dot com today: > > http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTAyNzA > > It may be worth to discuss the sad performance of FBSD in some parts > of the benchmark. A difference of a factor

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server

2011-12-15 Thread Mike Bedwell
On 12/15/2011 12:32 AM, O. Hartmann wrote: Just saw this shot benchmark on Phoronix dot com today: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTAyNzA It may be worth to discuss the sad performance of FBSD in some parts of the benchmark. A difference of a factor 10 or 100 is simply far b

Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1Server

2011-12-15 Thread Steven Hartland
- Original Message - From: "Michael Larabel" I was the on that carried out the testing and know that it was on the same system. All of the testing, including the system tables, is fully automated. Under FreeBSD sometimes the parsing of some component strings isn't as nice as Linu