Re: Phoronix comparision of HAMMER, UFS, ZFS, EXT3, EXT4, Btrfs

2011-01-10 Thread Bruce Cran
On Mon, 10 Jan 2011 14:12:32 +0100 Ivan Voras wrote: > I've also noticed it is bursty - this can be moderated by tuning > vfs.zfs.txg.timeout and vfs.zfs.vdev.max_pending. But I think you > must agree that 210 MB/s on a single drive looks impossible :) I get > that much in a SAS RAID-10 configur

Re: Phoronix comparision of HAMMER, UFS, ZFS, EXT3, EXT4, Btrfs

2011-01-10 Thread Ivan Voras
On 10/01/2011 14:07, Bruce Cran wrote: On Mon, 10 Jan 2011 13:49:08 +0100 Ivan Voras wrote: It depends - since ZFS is logging all the time it doesn't have to seek as much; if all transactions are WRITE and given sequentially, they will be written to the drive sequentially, even with full fsync

Re: Phoronix comparision of HAMMER, UFS, ZFS, EXT3, EXT4, Btrfs

2011-01-10 Thread Bruce Cran
On Mon, 10 Jan 2011 13:49:08 +0100 Ivan Voras wrote: > It depends - since ZFS is logging all the time it doesn't have to > seek as much; if all transactions are WRITE and given sequentially, > they will be written to the drive sequentially, even with full fsync > semantics. But 75k IOPS is a bit

Re: Phoronix comparision of HAMMER, UFS, ZFS, EXT3, EXT4, Btrfs

2011-01-10 Thread Ivan Voras
On 07/01/2011 16:23, Stefan Lambrev wrote: Hi, Having in mind that a SAS enterprise disk normally can handle 150-180IOPS, this benchmark is testing something else ;) It depends - since ZFS is logging all the time it doesn't have to seek as much; if all transactions are WRITE and given sequen

Re: Phoronix comparision of HAMMER, UFS, ZFS, EXT3, EXT4, Btrfs

2011-01-08 Thread Bruce Cran
On Fri, 7 Jan 2011 06:12:38 -0800 (PST) Paul Pathiakis wrote: > The results came out like this: > > EXT3 - ~3000 tps > EXT4 - ~3800 tps > XFS - ~ 1800 tps > ZFS - 75000 tps ZFS seems very good at keeping the disk busy with lots of buffering - on my machine gstat shows the disk at 100% for severa

Re: Phoronix comparision of HAMMER, UFS, ZFS, EXT3, EXT4, Btrfs

2011-01-08 Thread Paul Pathiakis
nt with ZFS due to the gobs of memory on the machine. Paul From: "dieter...@engineer.com" To: freebsd-performance@freebsd.org Sent: Fri, January 7, 2011 7:33:39 PM Subject: Re: Phoronix comparision of HAMMER, UFS, ZFS, EXT3, EXT4, Btrfs Paul: > EXT3 -

Re: Phoronix comparision of HAMMER, UFS, ZFS, EXT3, EXT4, Btrfs

2011-01-07 Thread dieterbsd
Paul: EXT3 - ~3000 tps EXT4 - ~3800 tps XFS - ~ 1800 tps ZFS - 75000 tps The result for FFS w/softdeps seems to have been lost in the mail. :-( Mark: They certainly have earned the title Moronix either way. For me, getting a debugging flag wrong (assuming they did, there seems to be some q

Re: Phoronix comparision of HAMMER, UFS, ZFS, EXT3, EXT4, Btrfs

2011-01-07 Thread Christopher J. Ruwe
On Fri, 07 Jan 2011 10:19:05 -0600 "Mark Felder" wrote: > On Fri, 07 Jan 2011 09:19:30 -0600, Bruce Cran > wrote: > > > People seem to forget that debugging is turned off before the RC > > builds are done, which is what Phoronix tested (8.0 RC1). > > The GENERIC kernel has DEBUG=-g enabled; pe

Re: Phoronix comparision of HAMMER, UFS, ZFS, EXT3, EXT4, Btrfs

2011-01-07 Thread Bruce Cran
On Fri, 07 Jan 2011 10:19:05 -0600 "Mark Felder" wrote: > On Fri, 07 Jan 2011 09:19:30 -0600, Bruce Cran > wrote: > > > People seem to forget that debugging is turned off before the RC > > builds are done, which is what Phoronix tested (8.0 RC1). > > The GENERIC kernel has DEBUG=-g enabled; pe

Re: Phoronix comparision of HAMMER, UFS, ZFS, EXT3, EXT4, Btrfs

2011-01-07 Thread Mark Felder
On Fri, 07 Jan 2011 09:19:30 -0600, Bruce Cran wrote: People seem to forget that debugging is turned off before the RC builds are done, which is what Phoronix tested (8.0 RC1). The GENERIC kernel has DEBUG=-g enabled; perhaps this is what he is referring to? They certainly have earned the

Re: Phoronix comparision of HAMMER, UFS, ZFS, EXT3, EXT4, Btrfs

2011-01-07 Thread Stefan Lambrev
Hi, Having in mind that a SAS enterprise disk normally can handle 150-180IOPS, this benchmark is testing something else ;) Well there is a one thing which is clear from almost every Phoronix benchmark - Linux is heavily optimized ... for unpacking the linux kernel :) On Jan 7, 2011, at 4:12 PM,

Re: Phoronix comparision of HAMMER, UFS, ZFS, EXT3, EXT4, Btrfs

2011-01-07 Thread Paul Pathiakis
cox To: freebsd-performance@freebsd.org Sent: Fri, January 7, 2011 9:40:15 AM Subject: Re: Phoronix comparision of HAMMER, UFS, ZFS, EXT3, EXT4, Btrfs On 7 January 2011 09:12, Paul Pathiakis wrote: > This is almost laughable. I'd like to know what parameters they were tuning. >

Re: Phoronix comparision of HAMMER, UFS, ZFS, EXT3, EXT4, Btrfs

2011-01-07 Thread Bruce Cran
On Fri, 7 Jan 2011 15:39:00 +0100 "Christopher J. Ruwe" wrote: > Some time ago Phoronix compared a FreeBSD with kernel debugging turned > on to an Ubuntu to show that FreeBSD is slow and Linuxes way faster. > Since then I have privately dubbed that site Moronix. People seem to forget that debugg

Re: Phoronix comparision of HAMMER, UFS, ZFS, EXT3, EXT4, Btrfs

2011-01-07 Thread Christopher J. Ruwe
On Fri, 7 Jan 2011 06:12:38 -0800 (PST) Paul Pathiakis wrote: > This is almost laughable. I'd like to know what parameters they were > tuning. Some time ago Phoronix compared a FreeBSD with kernel debugging turned on to an Ubuntu to show that FreeBSD is slow and Linuxes way faster. Since then

Re: Phoronix comparision of HAMMER, UFS, ZFS, EXT3, EXT4, Btrfs

2011-01-07 Thread Kevin Wilcox
On 7 January 2011 09:12, Paul Pathiakis wrote: > This is almost laughable.  I'd like to know what parameters they were tuning. >  I > used FreeBSD with ZFS to make a point to people using Debian on EXT3, EXT4, > XFS > just two years ago.  They were interested in total throughput and TPS.  Well,

Re: Phoronix comparision of HAMMER, UFS, ZFS, EXT3, EXT4, Btrfs

2011-01-07 Thread Paul Pathiakis
of the box. All SMP and all 64 bit OS. Paul Pathiakis Systems Architect/Sr Admin/Geek All around nice guy. From: Miroslav Lachman <000.f...@quip.cz> To: freebsd-performance@freebsd.org Sent: Fri, January 7, 2011 6:41:07 AM Subject: Phoronix comparision of

Phoronix comparision of HAMMER, UFS, ZFS, EXT3, EXT4, Btrfs

2011-01-07 Thread Miroslav Lachman
Another filesystem benchmark from Phoronix. This time comparing HAMMER, UFS, ZFS, EXT3, EXT4 and Btrfs on DragonFly BSD, PC-BSD and Ubuntu. http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=dragonfly_hammer I think it is almost useless test if systems were crippled to UP, because of bad SMP p