Re: Status of portupgrade and portmaster?

2017-10-02 Thread abi
01.10.2017 01:44, Jonathan Chen пишет: On 1 October 2017 at 11:29, abi wrote: 30.09.2017 20:06, Kevin Oberman пишет: As a result, I am no longer able to track HEAD and, if the issue is not resolved in some manner before 11 support ends, will be forced to move from FreeBSD after an using it fo

Re: [HEADUP] FLAVORS landing.

2017-10-02 Thread Philip Paeps
On 2017-09-26 16:05:08 (+0200), Mathieu Arnold wrote: **Do not commit FLAVORS to any ports, a hook will prevent it, that being said, do try it and test what can be done.** There also seems to be a hook preventing new py3-* ports being added. How should maintainers of Python3 ports proceed when

Re: Status of portupgrade and portmaster?

2017-10-02 Thread Carmel NY
On Sun, 1 Oct 2017 23:49:14 +0100, Matthew Seaman stated: >On 01/10/2017 11:34, Carmel NY wrote: >> 1. Does it determine out-of-date update packages automatically or does >> the user have to determine that what is out-of-date and feed them to >> poudriere manually and in the proper order? > >Aut

Re: Status of portupgrade and portmaster?

2017-10-02 Thread Thomas Mueller
from abi: > > What sort of port options can portmaster support better than synth? > 1. When port doesn't have options cached portmaster invokes dialog4ports > (poudriere can't do it in proper way, synth doesn't do it at all) > 2. When options become outdated portmaster invokes dialog4ports > 3. po

Re: Status of portupgrade and portmaster?

2017-10-02 Thread abi
02.10.2017 12:07, Carmel NY пишет: While it will undoubtedly work, it is still more complex than the average desktop user requirers. Building from ports is already more complex thing than one could expect from desktop user. I don't think ports are recommended way to keep system updated. It you

Re: Status of portupgrade and portmaster?

2017-10-02 Thread Matt Smith
On Oct 02 09:07, Carmel NY wrote: On Sun, 1 Oct 2017 23:49:14 +0100, Matthew Seaman stated: On 01/10/2017 11:34, Carmel NY wrote: 1. Does it determine out-of-date update packages automatically or does the user have to determine that what is out-of-date and feed them to poudriere manually and i

Re: Status of portupgrade and portmaster?

2017-10-02 Thread abi
02.10.2017 12:22, Thomas Mueller пишет: Downside of dialog4ports is burying options in a tree under /var/db/ports not intended for direct modification by user. Direct modification assumes you edit it directly, I leave this job for dialog4ports. I had to delete /var/db/ports/* but keep empty

Re: Status of portupgrade and portmaster?

2017-10-02 Thread Vlad K.
On 2017-10-02 09:02, abi wrote: 1. When port doesn't have options cached portmaster invokes dialog4ports (poudriere can't do it in proper way, synth doesn't do it at all) What do you mean it can't? poudriere options -j jailname -p portstree -f /list/of/packages No? And if you re-run this step

Re: Status of portupgrade and portmaster?

2017-10-02 Thread abi
02.10.2017 12:51, Vlad K. пишет: On 2017-10-02 09:02, abi wrote: 1. When port doesn't have options cached portmaster invokes dialog4ports (poudriere can't do it in proper way, synth doesn't do it at all) What do you mean it can't? ' in proper way. Issues I encountered when switched to poud

Re: Status of portupgrade and portmaster?

2017-10-02 Thread Vlad K.
On 2017-10-02 11:57, abi wrote: 2. Dependency chain is not updated - if I disable B feature on port A, poudriere asks me for options of ports implementing B. I have to Ctrl+C after any option change. I find that annoying as well, but isn't that just how the config-recursive ports framewor

Re: Status of portupgrade and portmaster?

2017-10-02 Thread Marco Beishuizen
On Mon, 2 Oct 2017, the wise Matthew D. Fuller wrote: On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 09:21:31PM +0200 I heard the voice of Marco Beishuizen, and lo! it spake thus: Using portupgrade every day and still works great. Tried portmaster once but liked portupgrade more. I use poudriere just for testing p

Re: Status of portupgrade and portmaster?

2017-10-02 Thread Matt Smith
On Oct 02 12:05, Vlad K. wrote: On 2017-10-02 11:57, abi wrote: 2. Dependency chain is not updated - if I disable B feature on port A, poudriere asks me for options of ports implementing B. I have to Ctrl+C after any option change. I find that annoying as well, but isn't that just how the

Re: Status of portupgrade and portmaster?

2017-10-02 Thread Vlad K.
On 2017-10-02 12:05, Marco Beishuizen wrote: I agree, imho poudriere is designed to maintain ports and testing them, or if you have to build ports for lots of systems. And it works very well for that too. But portupgrade and portmaster are imho far better in just tracking newer versions of insta

Re: Status of portupgrade and portmaster?

2017-10-02 Thread abi
02.10.2017 13:25, Matt Smith пишет: On Oct 02 12:05, Vlad K. wrote: On 2017-10-02 11:57, abi wrote: 2. Dependency chain is not updated - if I disable B feature on port A, poudriere asks me for options of ports implementing B. I have to Ctrl+C after any option change. I find that annoying as

Re: Status of portupgrade and portmaster?

2017-10-02 Thread abi
02.10.2017 13:05, Vlad K. пишет: On 2017-10-02 11:57, abi wrote: 2. Dependency chain is not updated - if I disable B feature on port A, poudriere asks me for options of ports implementing B. I have to Ctrl+C after any option change. I find that annoying as well, but isn't that just how th

Re: gettng the port revision number associated with the pkg repo.

2017-10-02 Thread Julian Elischer
On 28/9/17 9:25 pm, Lowell Gilbert wrote: Julian Elischer writes: On 26/9/17 10:07 pm, Lowell Gilbert wrote: Julian Elischer writes: SO imagine that I needed to be ab;e to reproduce the pkg repo as of a articular day, is there anywhere one can look to see the svn revision number that corre

Re: Porters Handbook section 4.4

2017-10-02 Thread Russell Haley
On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 7:58 AM, Warren Block wrote: > On Mon, 25 Sep 2017, Russell Haley wrote: > >> Thanks! I'll play with this on the weekend. > > > Please create a review at https://reviews.freebsd.org/ and add me as a > reviewer. > > Thanks! Will do. Just a progress update: I got the handboo

Re: gettng the port revision number associated with the pkg repo.

2017-10-02 Thread Simon Wright
On 02/10/2017 22:19, Julian Elischer wrote: On 28/9/17 9:25 pm, Lowell Gilbert wrote: Julian Elischer writes: On 26/9/17 10:07 pm, Lowell Gilbert wrote: Julian Elischer writes: SO imagine that I needed to be ab;e to reproduce the pkg repo as of a articular day, is there anywhere one can l

Re: Status of portupgrade and portmaster?

2017-10-02 Thread Chris H
On Mon, 2 Oct 2017 10:28:49 +0100 Matt Smith wrote > On Oct 02 09:07, Carmel NY wrote: > >On Sun, 1 Oct 2017 23:49:14 +0100, Matthew Seaman stated: > > > >>On 01/10/2017 11:34, Carmel NY wrote: > >>> 1. Does it determine out-of-date update packages automatically or does > >>> the user have to det

Re: Status of portupgrade and portmaster?

2017-10-02 Thread Don Lewis
On 2 Oct, Marco Beishuizen wrote: > I'm also not sure if poudriere > is able to track ports on a STABLE system (as in my case). Yes it can. If you use the svn method when creating a jail you can chose any arbitrary source branch from the svn repository and then you can specify any desired svn

Re: gettng the port revision number associated with the pkg repo. [Please?)

2017-10-02 Thread Julian Elischer
On 3/10/17 12:25 am, Simon Wright wrote: On 02/10/2017 22:19, Julian Elischer wrote: On 28/9/17 9:25 pm, Lowell Gilbert wrote: Julian Elischer writes: On 26/9/17 10:07 pm, Lowell Gilbert wrote: Julian Elischer writes: SO imagine that I needed to be ab;e to reproduce the pkg repo as of a

Re: Status of portupgrade and portmaster?

2017-10-02 Thread Chris H
On Mon, 02 Oct 2017 09:44:26 -0700 "Chris H" wrote > On Mon, 2 Oct 2017 10:28:49 +0100 Matt Smith wrote > > > On Oct 02 09:07, Carmel NY wrote: > > >On Sun, 1 Oct 2017 23:49:14 +0100, Matthew Seaman stated: > > > > > >>On 01/10/2017 11:34, Carmel NY wrote: > > >>> 1. Does it determine out-of-da

Re: Status of portupgrade and portmaster?

2017-10-02 Thread Marco Beishuizen
On Mon, 2 Oct 2017, the wise Don Lewis wrote: Yes it can. If you use the svn method when creating a jail you can chose any arbitrary source branch from the svn repository and then you can specify any desired svn revision on that branch when you update the jail. You would probably want to use

Re: Status of portupgrade and portmaster?

2017-10-02 Thread Matt Smith
On Oct 02 20:01, Marco Beishuizen wrote: On Mon, 2 Oct 2017, the wise Don Lewis wrote: Yes it can. If you use the svn method when creating a jail you can chose any arbitrary source branch from the svn repository and then you can specify any desired svn revision on that branch when you update

Re: Status of portupgrade and portmaster?

2017-10-02 Thread Don Lewis
On 2 Oct, Marco Beishuizen wrote: > On Mon, 2 Oct 2017, the wise Don Lewis wrote: > >> Yes it can. If you use the svn method when creating a jail you can >> chose any arbitrary source branch from the svn repository and then you >> can specify any desired svn revision on that branch when you up

Re: Status of portupgrade and portmaster?

2017-10-02 Thread Marco Beishuizen
On Mon, 2 Oct 2017, the wise Matt Smith wrote: I'm running 11.1-STABLE now, upgrading every few months or when there is an important security fix. Do I have to build a new system twice in that case (once my running system and once the poudriere jail)? What I do is to initially create the ja

New 2017Q4 branch

2017-10-02 Thread René Ladan
Hi, The 2017Q4 branch has been created. It means that the next update on the quarterly packages will be on the 2017Q4 branch. A lot of things happened in the last three months: - pkg 1.10.1 - New USES: (none) - Removed USES: execinfo twisted - New keywords: (none) - Removed keywords: (none) - Def

Re: Status of portupgrade and portmaster?

2017-10-02 Thread David Wolfskill
On Mon, Oct 02, 2017 at 11:51:33AM -0700, Don Lewis wrote: > On 2 Oct, Marco Beishuizen wrote: > ... > > I'm running 11.1-STABLE now, upgrading every few months or when there is > > an important security fix. Do I have to build a new system twice in that > > case (once my running system and once

Re: Status of portupgrade and portmaster?

2017-10-02 Thread Matt Smith
On Oct 02 11:51, Don Lewis wrote: Yes, but at least the poudriere jail doesn't build the kernel bits. The real pain point is that when you update the jail, the next bulk package build will toss all the previously built packages and force a full rebuild from scratch. That makes sense if you bel

Re: Status of portupgrade and portmaster?

2017-10-02 Thread Stari Karp
On Mon, 2017-10-02 at 12:26 +0300, abi wrote: > 02.10.2017 12:07, Carmel NY пишет: > > While it will undoubtedly work, it is still more complex than the > > average > > desktop user requirers. > > Building from ports is already more complex thing than one could > expect > from desktop user. I don

devel/llvm40 and llvm50 builds vs. powerpc (32-bit) FreeBSD: "Host compiler appears to require libatomic, but cannot find it."

2017-10-02 Thread Mark Millard
This is a system where world was built with system clang 5 and there is no gcc 4.2.1 installed: only the system-clang are on the old PowerMacs I'm testing on. The building of ports was via poudriere and system clang. Even with the lldb build, the lld build, the LIT build, the Extras build, and the

Re: [maybe spam] New 2017Q4 branch

2017-10-02 Thread Julian Elischer
On 3/10/17 3:01 am, René Ladan wrote: can we please have a way of finding out the revision at which the latest HEAD branch compile was done at? (and for that matter the latest recompile on the quarterly branch). Hi, The 2017Q4 branch has been created. It means that the next update on the qua

Re: Status of portupgrade and portmaster?

2017-10-02 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 02/10/2017 19:58, Marco Beishuizen wrote: > On Mon, 2 Oct 2017, the wise Matt Smith wrote: > >>> I'm running 11.1-STABLE now, upgrading every few months or when there >>> is an important security fix. Do I have to build a new system twice >>> in that case (once my running system and once the po

NextCloud 12.03 is Released - when it will be added to freshports ?

2017-10-02 Thread Acu Ilie Dorin
Hello Everyone, I wonder what is the procedure to find out whether anyone is working on getting Nextcloud 12.03 in freshports.. It see that a lot of bugs were fixed... . https://github.com/nextcloud/server/pulls?page=1&q=is%3Apr+milestone%3A%22Nextcloud+12.0.3%22+is%3Aclosed And the repos for 12.0