Re: ports/pkg/OS integration 2.0

On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 1:49 PM, John Marino wrote: > Royce wrote: >> It would be nice to be asked at the point of installing the system >> what kind of software management you want: >> >> [X] Install software from binary packages only >> [ ] Install software from ports only (compiling everything

Re: ports/pkg/OS integration 2.0 (was: Re: Removing documentation)

On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 1:07 PM, Roger Marquis wrote: >>> (The Ubuntu /etc/alternatives symlink system and other mechanisms solve >>> this well) > > > That hasn't been my experience but then I'm not a big fan of symlinks > which can't be safely modified outside of the (d)pkg system. As a > genera

ports/pkg/OS integration 2.0 (was: Re: Removing documentation)

On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 6:38 AM, Royce Williams wrote: > This is, indeed, a gap in the Debian world. It's one that the ports > system is a great start towards resolving. That's why I think that > ports + pkg could be a superior offering that people would flock to, > a

Re: Removing documentation

On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 5:56 AM, Jim Ohlstein wrote: > On 2/11/16 7:22 PM, Royce Williams wrote: >> Is the abstraction is happening at the equivalent level here? The >> platforms that I'm thinking of -- that appear to have already solved >> this entire class of p

Re: Removing documentation

On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 3:41 PM, John Marino wrote: > > On 2/12/2016 1:22 AM, Royce Williams wrote: > > Is the abstraction is happening at the equivalent level here? The > > platforms that I'm thinking of -- that appear to have already solved > > this entire class o

Re: Removing documentation

On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 11:17 AM, John Marino wrote: > On 2/11/2016 9:08 PM, Royce Williams wrote: >> On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 10:33 AM, John Marino wrote: >>> >>> On 2/11/2016 8:25 PM, Lev Serebryakov wrote: >>>> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >>

Re: Removing documentation

On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 10:33 AM, John Marino wrote: > > On 2/11/2016 8:25 PM, Lev Serebryakov wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA512 > > > > On 07.02.2016 17:28, John Marino wrote: > > > >> ports-mgmt/synth. I would love to hear what signficant thing > >> portmaster can d

Re: Removing documentation

On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 6:50 AM, Royce Williams wrote: > IMO, this entire thread is masking a deeper symptom: FreeBSD > ports/packages management is fragmented. [snip] > We need to capture users' reasons for preferring specific frameworks, > and build a roadmap to how they

Re: Removing documentation

IMO, this entire thread is masking a deeper symptom: FreeBSD ports/packages management is fragmented. Each unofficial tool treats some symptoms well, and others poorly. The fact that I have to use the phrase "ports/packages" is indicative of a deep schizophrenia. Don't get me wrong -- I love the

Re: LogJam exploit can force TLS down to 512 bytes, does it affect us? ?

On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 6:21 AM, Mark Felder wrote: > > > On Wed, May 20, 2015, at 17:48, Xin Li wrote: > ]> > > Well, currently OpenSSL do accept weak DH so _arguably_ it does affect > > FreeBSD, and it's likely to break existing applications if we enforce > > such restrictions (namely, Java 6).

Re: pkg 1.5.0 is out

On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 12:05 PM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: > Final pkg 1.5.0 has been released. Great! How do I upgrade to it? $ date Tue Apr 14 13:51:47 AKDT 2015 $ pkg --version 1.4.12 $ pkg info | egrep '^pkg-' pkg-1.4.12 Package manager $ sudo pkg upgrade pkg Updatin

Re: BIND REPLACE_BASE option

On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 7:15 PM, Chris H wrote: > On Tue, 13 Jan 2015 19:11:50 -0800 (PST) Roger Marquis > wrote > >> > The dialog option you talk about says: >> > [ ] REPLACE_BASEEOL, no longer supported >> > I'm quite sure the end-user you're talking about can get a clue from it, >> > and

Re: BIND REPLACE_BASE option

On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 8:24 AM, Chris H wrote: > On Mon, 12 Jan 2015 07:55:45 -0900 Royce Williams wrote > >> On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 7:38 AM, Chris H wrote: >> >> > As to the "sysadmin gap" a look to >> > the ports tree seems to indicate quite

Re: BIND REPLACE_BASE option

On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 7:38 AM, Chris H wrote: > As to the "sysadmin gap" a look to > the ports tree seems to indicate quite a volume of "sysadmin" > related ports. Are some missing? To the contrary -- there are too many. A good project would be to survey which ones people actually use, and wh

Re: BIND REPLACE_BASE option

On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 4:08 AM, Kurt Jaeger wrote: >> No disputing that, just thinking, is FreeBSD being driven by user need, >> financial contributer need, developer need, security need, making things >> 'better' or just by people wanting to make their mark in a warped sense >> of "it'll all ge

Re: Deleting ports distfiles

On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 1:55 PM, andrew clarke wrote: > On Sun 2014-11-16 23:29:37 UTC+0100, Dr. Peter Voigt (pvo...@uos.de) wrote: > >> I have just seen that /usr/ports/distfiles has grown up to 12 GiB. My >> hopefully not too stupid question is: Can I safely delete all files >> under /usr/ports/

Re: firebird25-client 2.5.3 fails to build

On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 12:07 PM, Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote: > On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 9:24 PM, Kurt Jaeger wrote: >> >> There's a PR that discusses this issue (ports that require >> their old version to be deinstalled before building the new version): >> >> https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_b

Re: PKG not quite ready for prime time

On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 11:55 AM, Mark Felder wrote: > > > On Fri, Oct 10, 2014, at 14:47, Bryan Drewery wrote: >> On 10/10/2014 1:12 PM, scratch65...@att.net wrote: >> > On Fri, 10 Oct 2014 12:57:42 -0500, Brian Drewery wrote: >> > >> >> find /usr/share/keys/pkg -exec sha256 {} + >> > >> > No suc

Re: I want to upgrade an old (8.3-RC2) FReeBSD installation, but can't install subversion

On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 6:38 AM, Michael Gmelin wrote: > On Wed, 27 Aug 2014 10:26:42 +0200 > Michelle Sullivan wrote: > >> Daniel Austin via freebsd-ports wrote: >> > >> > On 27/08/2014 03:13, Alfred Perlstein wrote: >> >>> While I understandthe need to get rid of the old system, three >> >>> ne

Re: reason 23 why we've moved to linux

Colin, adding you to this thread with proposed patch (two options) for freebsd-update, below. On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 10:49 AM, Randy Bush wrote: >> Honest question, have you been building things from source under >> debian's ports or are you using their version of "pkg"? > > the latter > > and i

Re: reason 23 why we've moved to linux

On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 11:14 AM, Randy Bush wrote: [snip] > there will always be a few bugs. otoh, with freebsd ports, there may be > a few working paths, but they are damned hard to find. and there is > very viable competition. many long time freebsd users are leaving, yes > sadly, but leav

Re: WITHOUT_NLS is deprecated use NLS option instead

On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 at 7:46 AM, Michael Gmelin wrote: > Adding a (shortened, so easy to type) URL pointing to the wiki or > whatever resource describing why this happened could be useful (not just > for this, but for all of these deprecation warnings, so users > understand the rationale behind t

Re: security/john: bump to 1.7.9-jumbo-7

On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 1:59 PM, Royce Williams wrote: > On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 8:02 AM, Alexey Dokuchaev wrote: >> >> On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 07:27:05AM -0900, Royce Williams wrote: >> > Could someone bump security/john? The simple patch below should be a >> >

Re: security/john: bump to 1.7.9-jumbo-7

On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 8:02 AM, Alexey Dokuchaev wrote: > On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 07:27:05AM -0900, Royce Williams wrote: > > Could someone bump security/john? The simple patch below should be a > good > > start to cover it, and it's been more than a year since jumbo-

security/john: bump to 1.7.9-jumbo-7

ssword.lst %%DATADIR%%/radius2john.pl -%%DATADIR%%/sap_prepare.pl +%%DATADIR%%/sap2john.pl %%DATADIR%%/sha-dump.pl %%DATADIR%%/sha-test.pl +%%DATADIR%%/sipdump2john.py @dirrm %%DATADIR%% Royce On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 12:52 PM, Royce Williams wrote: > On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 3:39 AM, Alexey Do

Re: Official FreeBSD Binary Packages now available for pkgng

On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 3:57 PM, Michael Gmelin wrote: > > > Mirrors you may use instead of the global > > > pkg.FreeBSD.org > > > > > > pkg.eu.FreeBSD.org > > > pkg.us-east.FreeBSD.org

Re: UPDATING

On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 4:30 AM, Chris Rees wrote: > On 24 December 2012 11:31, Chris Whitehouse wrote: > > On 24/12/2012 06:52, Anton Afanasyev wrote: > >> > >> I second this. > >> While it may have made sense to include the "rebuild all ports. Here's > an > >> example of how" initially, includ

Re: Users Handbook

On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 6:15 AM, Warren Block wrote: [snip] > The only way to force the user to pick a mirror is to change the example so > it won't work until they do. Like this: > > Pick an svn mirror and replace the {svnmirror} string below with the > URL. > > # svn checkout {svnmirro

Re: FreeBSD Port: boinc-setiathome-enhanced-6.12_2

On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 2:02 PM, Rene Ladan wrote: > On 24-03-2012 08:04, David Whytcross wrote: >> >> Hi guys, >> am hoping you may be able to assist with an enquiry >> my FreeBSD 9.0 machine is fitted with an NVIDIA GEForce 210 card >> is it possible to utilize its CUDA GPU operability into >> b

Re: portupgrade -> portmaster Rosetta Stone?

On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 2:40 PM, Doug Barton wrote: > On 02/25/2012 16:33, Royce Williams wrote: >> I really did mean that I was looking for a Rosetta Stone > > Yes, I know what a Rosetta Stone is, so I understood what you were > asking for. Apologies - I didn't mean to

Re: portupgrade -> portmaster Rosetta Stone?

On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 1:06 PM, Doug Barton wrote: >> It's not too hard to switch.  Read the portmaster(8) man page > > Yes please. :)  And that's, "read," not skim or search. I put a lot of > work into explaining the what/why/how, which will help you understand > the tool and how to get things d

portupgrade -> portmaster Rosetta Stone?

I noticed that the portupgrade port got returned to ports@ with this note: ports-mgmt/portupgrade - Reassign to ports@ please consider using ports-mgmt/portmaster Discussed with: bugmeister(eadler, linimon), ruby(swills, pgollucci) via #bsdports 22 Feb 2012 - pgollucci http://www.

Re: Problem (again) with portsnap5.FreeBSD.org?

On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 12:00 AM, Guido Falsi wrote: > portsnap5 has less weight now and is in fact being used less. My systems > are more frequently using other servers now. > > A few days ago portsnap5 did not respond, anyway in that case portsnap > simply timed out and tried another server shor

Re: Problem (again) with portsnap5.FreeBSD.org?

On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 6:18 AM, Royce Williams wrote: > On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 12:00 AM, Guido Falsi wrote: >> portsnap5 has less weight now and is in fact being used less. My systems >> are more frequently using other servers now. >> >> A few days ago portsnap5 did

Re: Problem (again) with portsnap5.FreeBSD.org?

On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 2:51 AM, RW wrote: > On Thu, 21 Oct 2010 10:31:24 +0200 Guido Falsi wrote: > >> I have noticed on the machines I use/administer a bias towards >> portsnap5. > If you define a cache environment variable the random choice is seeded > by that to improve the caching. There ma