Re: [HEADS UP] Ports Infrastructure Changes

2011-04-02 Thread Ulrich Spörlein
On Fr, 25.03.2011 at 07:11:42 +0800, Martin Wilke wrote: > On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 4:06 AM, Ulrich Spörlein wrote: > > > On Sat, 19.03.2011 at 09:49:39 +0800, Martin Wilke wrote: > > > Hey, > > > > > > as the Ports Collection continue to grow, we have decided to > > > do some changes to the categ

Re: [HEADS UP] Ports Infrastructure Changes

2011-03-24 Thread Martin Wilke
so can u guys please come back to the review of the ports for the categorie move? On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 4:06 AM, Ulrich Spörlein wrote: > On Sat, 19.03.2011 at 09:49:39 +0800, Martin Wilke wrote: > > Hey, > > > > as the Ports Collection continue to grow, we have decided to > > do some changes

Re: [HEADS UP] Ports Infrastructure Changes

2011-03-24 Thread Ulrich Spörlein
On Sat, 19.03.2011 at 09:49:39 +0800, Martin Wilke wrote: > Hey, > > as the Ports Collection continue to grow, we have decided to > do some changes to the category layout. The www category, second > largest with over 2000 individual ports, will have three subcategories > spinned out. On the other

Re: [HEADS UP] Ports Infrastructure Changes

2011-03-24 Thread Doug Barton
On 03/24/2011 01:22, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: Doug Barton wrote: This would be a good time to include ports-mgmt/pkg_search into the base system... It would be a better idea to put the pkg_* tools IN the ports tree where they belong. :) Wouldn't this lead to a chicken-egg problem for t

Re: [HEADS UP] Ports Infrastructure Changes

2011-03-24 Thread Jason Helfman
On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 01:12:49PM -0500, Eitan Adler thus spake: When this change goes in, it may be a good idea to commit a documentation change, as well, that cleans up and adds the new categories here: Is the attached patch sufficient? -- Eitan Adler Looks good. I was going to create o

Re: [HEADS UP] Ports Infrastructure Changes

2011-03-24 Thread J. Hellenthal
On Thu, 24 Mar 2011 11:38, lists@ wrote: you can then build category based directories with symlinks to the main location based on what categories My ports-mgmt/symports does something like this. It builds a full directory tree of symlinks for the "secondary" categories. I'm sure that someth

Re: [HEADS UP] Ports Infrastructure Changes

2011-03-24 Thread Eitan Adler
> > When this change goes in, it may be a good idea to commit a documentation > change, as well, that cleans up and adds the new categories here: Is the attached patch sufficient? -- Eitan Adler www-category-porters-handbook.diff Description: Binary data __

Re: [HEADS UP] Ports Infrastructure Changes

2011-03-24 Thread Jason Helfman
On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 04:41:33PM +, Anton Shterenlikht thus spake: On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 09:23:22AM -0700, Jason Helfman wrote: On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 10:38:48AM -0500, Eitan Adler thus spake: >>you can then build category based directories with symlinks to the main >>location based on

Re: [HEADS UP] Ports Infrastructure Changes

2011-03-24 Thread Anton Shterenlikht
On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 09:23:22AM -0700, Jason Helfman wrote: > On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 10:38:48AM -0500, Eitan Adler thus spake: > >>you can then build category based directories with symlinks to the main > >>location based on what categories > > > >My ports-mgmt/symports does something like this

Re: [HEADS UP] Ports Infrastructure Changes

2011-03-24 Thread Jason Helfman
On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 10:38:48AM -0500, Eitan Adler thus spake: you can then build category based directories with symlinks to the main location based on what categories My ports-mgmt/symports does something like this. It builds a full directory tree of symlinks for the "secondary" categories

Re: [HEADS UP] Ports Infrastructure Changes

2011-03-24 Thread Eitan Adler
> you can then build category based directories with symlinks to the main > location based on what categories My ports-mgmt/symports does something like this. It builds a full directory tree of symlinks for the "secondary" categories. > I'm sure that something like this has been mentioned before.

Re: [HEADS UP] Ports Infrastructure Changes

2011-03-24 Thread Peter Jeffery
On Wed, 23 Mar 2011 18:34:35 -, Olivier Smedts wrote: 2011/3/23 Doug Barton : On 03/23/2011 03:48, Peter Jeffery wrote: If I was looking for the Opera port, I'd look in www-clients and if it wasn't in there then the next thing that I would be doing is hand searching the INDEX file cd

Re: [HEADS UP] Ports Infrastructure Changes

2011-03-24 Thread perryh
Doug Barton wrote: > > This would be a good time to include ports-mgmt/pkg_search into > > the base system... > > It would be a better idea to put the pkg_* tools IN the ports tree > where they belong. :) Wouldn't this lead to a chicken-egg problem for those who use packages? How would one go a

Re: [HEADS UP] Ports Infrastructure Changes

2011-03-23 Thread Anton Shterenlikht
On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 07:04:26PM +, Helmut Schneider wrote: > Doug Barton wrote: > > > On 03/23/2011 03:48, Peter Jeffery wrote: > > > If I was looking for the Opera port, I'd look in www-clients and if > > > it wasn't in there then the next thing that I would be doing is hand > > > searchin

Re: [HEADS UP] Ports Infrastructure Changes

2011-03-23 Thread Olivier Smedts
2011/3/23 Olivier Smedts : > 2011/3/23 Doug Barton : >> On 03/23/2011 11:34, Olivier Smedts wrote: >>> >>> 2011/3/23 Doug Barton: On 03/23/2011 03:48, Peter Jeffery wrote: > > If I was looking for the Opera port, I'd look in www-clients and if > it wasn't in there then the nex

Re: [HEADS UP] Ports Infrastructure Changes

2011-03-23 Thread Warren Block
On Wed, 23 Mar 2011, Olivier Smedts wrote: 2011/3/23 Doug Barton : On 03/23/2011 03:48, Peter Jeffery wrote: If I was looking for the Opera port, I'd look in www-clients and if it wasn't in there then the next thing that I would be doing is hand searching the INDEX file cd /usr/ports/ && ma

Re: [HEADS UP] Ports Infrastructure Changes

2011-03-23 Thread Doug Barton
On 03/23/2011 12:04, Helmut Schneider wrote: Doug Barton wrote: On 03/23/2011 03:48, Peter Jeffery wrote: If I was looking for the Opera port, I'd look in www-clients and if it wasn't in there then the next thing that I would be doing is hand searching the INDEX file cd /usr/ports/&& make s

Re: [HEADS UP] Ports Infrastructure Changes

2011-03-23 Thread Helmut Schneider
Doug Barton wrote: > On 03/23/2011 03:48, Peter Jeffery wrote: > > If I was looking for the Opera port, I'd look in www-clients and if > > it wasn't in there then the next thing that I would be doing is hand > > searching the INDEX file > > cd /usr/ports/ && make search name=opera This would be

Re: [HEADS UP] Ports Infrastructure Changes

2011-03-23 Thread Olivier Smedts
2011/3/23 Doug Barton : > On 03/23/2011 11:34, Olivier Smedts wrote: >> >> 2011/3/23 Doug Barton: >>> >>> On 03/23/2011 03:48, Peter Jeffery wrote: If I was looking for the Opera port, I'd look in www-clients and if it wasn't in there then the next thing that I would be doing is hand

Re: [HEADS UP] Ports Infrastructure Changes

2011-03-23 Thread Doug Barton
On 03/23/2011 11:34, Olivier Smedts wrote: 2011/3/23 Doug Barton: On 03/23/2011 03:48, Peter Jeffery wrote: If I was looking for the Opera port, I'd look in www-clients and if it wasn't in there then the next thing that I would be doing is hand searching the INDEX file cd /usr/ports/&& make

Re: [HEADS UP] Ports Infrastructure Changes

2011-03-23 Thread Olivier Smedts
2011/3/23 Doug Barton : > On 03/23/2011 03:48, Peter Jeffery wrote: >> >> If I was looking for the Opera port, I'd look in www-clients and if >> it wasn't in there then the next thing that I would be doing is hand >> searching the INDEX file > > cd /usr/ports/ && make search name=opera Or find /us

Re: [HEADS UP] Ports Infrastructure Changes

2011-03-23 Thread Doug Barton
On 03/23/2011 03:48, Peter Jeffery wrote: If I was looking for the Opera port, I'd look in www-clients and if it wasn't in there then the next thing that I would be doing is hand searching the INDEX file cd /usr/ports/ && make search name=opera hth, Doug -- Nothin' ever doesn't cha

Re: [HEADS UP] Ports Infrastructure Changes

2011-03-23 Thread Peter Jeffery
On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 07:26:45 -, Zhihao Yuan wrote: On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 5:29 PM, Henk van Oers wrote: From: Pav Lucistnik Matthias Andree pí¹e v so 19. 03. 2011 v 09:52 +0100: [...] Where do you see the dividing line between web apps on one hand and on the other hand "http servers

Re: [HEADS UP] Ports Infrastructure Changes

2011-03-22 Thread Pav Lucistnik
Henk van Oers píše v so 19. 03. 2011 v 23:29 +0100: > From: Pav Lucistnik > > Matthias Andree pí¹e v so 19. 03. 2011 v 09:52 +0100: > [...] > >> Where do you see the dividing line between web apps on one hand and on > >> the other hand "http servers ... everything related to apache"? IOW, > >> h

Re: [HEADS UP] Ports Infrastructure Changes

2011-03-21 Thread Tilman Keskinöz
On 03/19/2011 11:52 PM, Zhihao Yuan wrote: C/S model can not clarify the developing web technology these years. +1 ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to "fre

Re: [HEADS UP] Ports Infrastructure Changes

2011-03-20 Thread Zhihao Yuan
On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 5:29 PM, Henk van Oers wrote: > > From: Pav Lucistnik > > Matthias Andree pí¹e v so 19. 03. 2011 v 09:52 +0100: > [...] >>> >>> Where do you see the dividing line between web apps on one hand and on >>> the other hand "http servers ... everything related to apache"?  IOW,

Re: [HEADS UP] Ports Infrastructure Changes

2011-03-19 Thread Philip M. Gollucci
On 3/19/2011 8:48 PM, Eitan Adler wrote: >> www-clients - browsers, rss clients, wget-alike, webapi/soap clients, >> benchmarks >> www-servers - http servers, proxy servers, everything related to apache >> www-webapps - web apps, frameworks, libraries >> www (rest, not moved) - html editors, author

Re: [HEADS UP] Ports Infrastructure Changes

2011-03-19 Thread Eitan Adler
> www-clients - browsers, rss clients, wget-alike, webapi/soap clients, > benchmarks > www-servers - http servers, proxy servers, everything related to apache > www-webapps - web apps, frameworks, libraries > www (rest, not moved) - html editors, authoring tools, search engines .. IMHO html editor

Re: [HEADS UP] Ports Infrastructure Changes

2011-03-19 Thread Lars Engels
On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 09:49:39AM +0800, Martin Wilke wrote: > Hey, > > as the Ports Collection continue to grow, we have decided to > do some changes to the category layout. The www category, second > largest with over 2000 individual ports, will have three subcategories > spinned out. On the ot

Re: [HEADS UP] Ports Infrastructure Changes

2011-03-19 Thread Zhihao Yuan
On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 5:29 PM, Henk van Oers wrote: > > From: Pav Lucistnik > > Matthias Andree pí¹e v so 19. 03. 2011 v 09:52 +0100: > [...] >>> >>> Where do you see the dividing line between web apps on one hand and on >>> the other hand "http servers ... everything related to apache"?  IOW,

Re: [HEADS UP] Ports Infrastructure Changes

2011-03-19 Thread Henk van Oers
From: Pav Lucistnik Matthias Andree pí¹e v so 19. 03. 2011 v 09:52 +0100: [...] Where do you see the dividing line between web apps on one hand and on the other hand "http servers ... everything related to apache"? IOW, how do I decide if I put a new port into www-webapps or into www-servers

Re: [HEADS UP] Ports Infrastructure Changes

2011-03-19 Thread Pav Lucistnik
Matthias Andree píše v so 19. 03. 2011 v 09:52 +0100: > Am 19.03.2011 02:49, schrieb Martin Wilke: > > Hey, > > > > as the Ports Collection continue to grow, we have decided to > > do some changes to the category layout. The www category, second > > largest with over 2000 individual ports, will ha

Re: [HEADS UP] Ports Infrastructure Changes

2011-03-19 Thread Pav Lucistnik
Thomas Sandford píše v so 19. 03. 2011 v 14:12 +: > On 19/03/2011 01:49, Martin Wilke wrote: > > as the Ports Collection continue to grow, we have decided to > > do some changes to the category layout. The www category, second > > largest with over 2000 individual ports, will have three subcate

Re: [HEADS UP] Ports Infrastructure Changes

2011-03-19 Thread Pav Lucistnik
Alex Dupre píše v so 19. 03. 2011 v 14:24 +0100: > Miroslav Lachman ha scritto: > > Maybe I misunderstand something, but where is Apache or Lighttpd server? > > I can't find them on the www-server list or www. > > Good catch, they aren't in any category :-) but should be in www-server. Good God,

Re: [HEADS UP] Ports Infrastructure Changes

2011-03-19 Thread Charlie Kester
On Sat 19 Mar 2011 at 12:18:42 PDT Olivier Smedts wrote: 2011/3/19 Michal Varga : On Sat, 2011-03-19 at 09:49 +0800, Martin Wilke wrote: Attached is a proposed list of ports being moved from the www category. Please review, discuss and report ommissions and mistakes. The general key to the new

Re: [HEADS UP] Ports Infrastructure Changes

2011-03-19 Thread Olivier Smedts
2011/3/19 Michal Varga : > On Sat, 2011-03-19 at 09:49 +0800, Martin Wilke wrote: > >> Attached is a proposed list of ports being moved from the www category. >> Please review, discuss and report ommissions and mistakes. The general >> key to the new categories is as follows: > > [...] > >> www-web

Re: [HEADS UP] Ports Infrastructure Changes

2011-03-19 Thread Pav Lucistnik
Alex Dupre píše v so 19. 03. 2011 v 14:29 +0100: > Pav Lucistnik ha scritto: > >> I was wondering where you put httpcore and httpclient, two java > >> libraries. Even if they are not "webapp", from this categorization I'd > >> say they should go there, but I found one in "www" and one in > >> "www

Re: [HEADS UP] Ports Infrastructure Changes

2011-03-19 Thread Philip M. Gollucci
On 3/19/2011 6:09 AM, Pav Lucistnik wrote: > Philip M. Gollucci píše v so 19. 03. 2011 v 00:51 -0400: > >> If might be useful to coordinate this with the default switch from 1.3 > > No. Let's keep things simple, one thing at a time. Okay w/ me. -- -

Re: [HEADS UP] Ports Infrastructure Changes

2011-03-19 Thread Thomas Sandford
On 19/03/2011 01:49, Martin Wilke wrote: as the Ports Collection continue to grow, we have decided to do some changes to the category layout. The www category, second largest with over 2000 individual ports, will have three subcategories spinned out. On the other side, x11-servers category, with

Re: [HEADS UP] Ports Infrastructure Changes

2011-03-19 Thread Alex Dupre
Pav Lucistnik ha scritto: I was wondering where you put httpcore and httpclient, two java libraries. Even if they are not "webapp", from this categorization I'd say they should go there, but I found one in "www" and one in "www-clients". Both will be moved to -clients, thanks. So -clients is

Re: [HEADS UP] Ports Infrastructure Changes

2011-03-19 Thread Alex Dupre
Miroslav Lachman ha scritto: Maybe I misunderstand something, but where is Apache or Lighttpd server? I can't find them on the www-server list or www. Good catch, they aren't in any category :-) but should be in www-server. -- Alex Dupre ___ freebsd-

Re: [HEADS UP] Ports Infrastructure Changes

2011-03-19 Thread Miroslav Lachman
Martin Wilke wrote: [...] www-servers - http servers, proxy servers, everything related to apache www-webapps - web apps, frameworks, libraries www (rest, not moved) - html editors, authoring tools, search engines .. http://people.freebsd.org/~miwi/cat/www-client.txt http://people.freebsd.org/

Re: [HEADS UP] Ports Infrastructure Changes

2011-03-19 Thread Matthias Andree
Am 19.03.2011 02:49, schrieb Martin Wilke: > Hey, > > as the Ports Collection continue to grow, we have decided to > do some changes to the category layout. The www category, second > largest with over 2000 individual ports, will have three subcategories > spinned out. On the other side, x11-serve

Re: [HEADS UP] Ports Infrastructure Changes

2011-03-19 Thread Eric
> devel category is the largest one, how about divide it into : > > devel > devel-perl > devel-python > > wen Is that not partially why we have the virtual categories to provide language divisions (not to mention port name prefixes)? I think were devel to be split 'broad' functionality would be

Re: [HEADS UP] Ports Infrastructure Changes

2011-03-19 Thread Pav Lucistnik
Alex Dupre píše v so 19. 03. 2011 v 08:52 +0100: > Martin Wilke ha scritto: > > www-clients - browsers, rss clients, wget-alike, webapi/soap clients, > > benchmarks > > www-servers - http servers, proxy servers, everything related to apache > > www-webapps - web apps, frameworks, libraries > > www

Re: [HEADS UP] Ports Infrastructure Changes

2011-03-19 Thread Pav Lucistnik
Philip M. Gollucci píše v so 19. 03. 2011 v 00:51 -0400: > If might be useful to coordinate this with the default switch from 1.3 No. Let's keep things simple, one thing at a time. -- -- Pav Lucistnik The use of the lavatory is restricted to the train's cat. signature.asc Des

Re: [HEADS UP] Ports Infrastructure Changes

2011-03-19 Thread Mark Linimon
On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 04:34:17PM +0800, wen heping wrote: > devel category is the largest one, how about divide it into : > > devel > devel-perl > devel-python My own view is that naming the categories by language (e.g. "java") is not a good idea. I'd rather divide things up by what they do, r

Re: [HEADS UP] Ports Infrastructure Changes

2011-03-19 Thread wen heping
devel category is the largest one, how about divide it into : devel devel-perl devel-python wen 2011/3/19 Martin Wilke : > Hey, > > as the Ports Collection continue to grow, we have decided to > do some changes to the category layout. The www category, second > largest with over 2000 individual

Re: [HEADS UP] Ports Infrastructure Changes

2011-03-19 Thread Alex Dupre
Martin Wilke ha scritto: www-clients - browsers, rss clients, wget-alike, webapi/soap clients, benchmarks www-servers - http servers, proxy servers, everything related to apache www-webapps - web apps, frameworks, libraries www (rest, not moved) - html editors, authoring tools, search engines ..

Re: [HEADS UP] Ports Infrastructure Changes

2011-03-18 Thread Martin Wilke
On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 12:54 PM, Philip M. Gollucci wrote: > On 3/19/2011 12:51 AM, Philip M. Gollucci wrote: > > On 3/18/2011 9:49 PM, Martin Wilke wrote: > >> Hey, > >> > >> as the Ports Collection continue to grow, we have decided to > >> do some changes to the category layout. The www categor

Re: [HEADS UP] Ports Infrastructure Changes

2011-03-18 Thread Philip M. Gollucci
On 3/19/2011 12:51 AM, Philip M. Gollucci wrote: > On 3/18/2011 9:49 PM, Martin Wilke wrote: >> Hey, >> >> as the Ports Collection continue to grow, we have decided to >> do some changes to the category layout. The www category, second >> largest with over 2000 individual ports, will have three sub

Re: [HEADS UP] Ports Infrastructure Changes

2011-03-18 Thread Martin Wilke
On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 12:53 PM, Philip M. Gollucci wrote: > On 3/18/2011 9:49 PM, Martin Wilke wrote: > > Hey, > > > > as the Ports Collection continue to grow, we have decided to > > do some changes to the category layout. The www category, second > > largest with over 2000 individual ports, wi

Re: [HEADS UP] Ports Infrastructure Changes

2011-03-18 Thread Philip M. Gollucci
On 3/18/2011 9:49 PM, Martin Wilke wrote: > Hey, > > as the Ports Collection continue to grow, we have decided to > do some changes to the category layout. The www category, second > largest with over 2000 individual ports, will have three subcategories > spinned out. On the other side, x11-server

Re: [HEADS UP] Ports Infrastructure Changes

2011-03-18 Thread Philip M. Gollucci
On 3/18/2011 9:49 PM, Martin Wilke wrote: > Hey, > > as the Ports Collection continue to grow, we have decided to > do some changes to the category layout. The www category, second > largest with over 2000 individual ports, will have three subcategories > spinned out. On the other side, x11-server

Re: [HEADS UP] Ports Infrastructure Changes

2011-03-18 Thread Zhihao Yuan
On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 9:32 PM, Michal Varga wrote: > On Sat, 2011-03-19 at 09:49 +0800, Martin Wilke wrote: > >> Attached is a proposed list of ports being moved from the www category. >> Please review, discuss and report ommissions and mistakes. The general >> key to the new categories is as fo

Re: [HEADS UP] Ports Infrastructure Changes

2011-03-18 Thread Michal Varga
On Sat, 2011-03-19 at 09:49 +0800, Martin Wilke wrote: > Attached is a proposed list of ports being moved from the www category. > Please review, discuss and report ommissions and mistakes. The general > key to the new categories is as follows: [...] > www-webapps - web apps, frameworks, librari

[HEADS UP] Ports Infrastructure Changes

2011-03-18 Thread Martin Wilke
Hey, as the Ports Collection continue to grow, we have decided to do some changes to the category layout. The www category, second largest with over 2000 individual ports, will have three subcategories spinned out. On the other side, x11-servers category, with only 10 ports, will be folded into re