On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 11:31:51AM -0700, Doug Barton wrote:
On 9/15/2010 1:18 AM, Greg Byshenk wrote:
On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 06:22:24PM -0700, Doug Barton wrote:
I can think of at least one more scenario off the top of my head. You
want to run the new version of the service the next time
Doug Barton do...@freebsd.org wrote:
... Is it really absolutely necessary
to stop a service before it's files go away?
IMO the only time the ports infrastructure itself should do this
is if it isn't possible to pkg_delete the port cleanly if it's
running. For example, if
On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 12:19:43AM -0700, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote:
Doug Barton do...@freebsd.org wrote:
... Is it really absolutely necessary
to stop a service before it's files go away?
IMO the only time the ports infrastructure itself should do this
is if it
On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 06:22:24PM -0700, Doug Barton wrote:
[...]
I can think of at least one more scenario off the top of my head. You
want to run the new version of the service the next time the box is
restarted for whatever reason, but the update is not so critical that it
justifies
Quoth Greg Byshenk on Wednesday, 15 September 2010:
On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 06:22:24PM -0700, Doug Barton wrote:
[...]
I can think of at least one more scenario off the top of my head. You
want to run the new version of the service the next time the box is
restarted for whatever
On Wed, 15 Sep 2010 08:15:56 -0700
Chip Camden sterl...@camdensoftware.com articulated:
Please don't automatically stop/start anything that might be critical.
I've had enough of Windows' automatic reboots after automatic
upgrades, and I never want to go back.
You do realize that, that is
Quoth Jerry on Wednesday, 15 September 2010:
On Wed, 15 Sep 2010 08:15:56 -0700
Chip Camden sterl...@camdensoftware.com articulated:
Please don't automatically stop/start anything that might be critical.
I've had enough of Windows' automatic reboots after automatic
upgrades, and I never
On 9/15/2010 1:18 AM, Greg Byshenk wrote:
On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 06:22:24PM -0700, Doug Barton wrote:
[...]
I can think of at least one more scenario off the top of my head. You
want to run the new version of the service the next time the box is
restarted for whatever reason, but the update
Hi.
On Wed, 15 Sep 2010 11:31:51 -0700
Doug Barton do...@freebsd.org wrote:
I can think of at least one more scenario off the top of my head. You
want to run the new version of the service the next time the box is
restarted for whatever reason, but the update is not so critical that it
On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 9:33 AM, Ion-Mihai Tetcu ite...@freebsd.org wrote:
On Sat, 11 Sep 2010 22:29:02 +0900
Norikatsu Shigemura n...@freebsd.org wrote:
Hi wxs and jpaetzel.
I noticed that dhcpd server stoped after portupgrade,
sometimes. It's a painful accident on my network.
On 9/13/2010 11:51 PM, Scot Hetzel wrote:
On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 9:33 AM, Ion-Mihai Tetcuite...@freebsd.org wrote:
On Sat, 11 Sep 2010 22:29:02 +0900
Norikatsu Shigemuran...@freebsd.org wrote:
Hi wxs and jpaetzel.
I noticed that dhcpd server stoped after portupgrade,
sometimes.
On Sun, 12 Sep 2010 06:45:47 +0800
Denny Lin dennyli...@hs.ntnu.edu.tw wrote:
On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 11:35:43PM +0200, Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote:
On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 4:33 PM, Ion-Mihai Tetcu
ite...@freebsd.org wrote:
This 'stop the service before we install' seems to be a new
2010/9/12 Ion-Mihai Tetcu ite...@freebsd.org:
On Sun, 12 Sep 2010 06:45:47 +0800
Denny Lin dennyli...@hs.ntnu.edu.tw wrote:
On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 11:35:43PM +0200, Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote:
On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 4:33 PM, Ion-Mihai Tetcu
ite...@freebsd.org wrote:
This 'stop the
On Saturday 11 September 2010 23:35:43 Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote:
Hi,
On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 4:33 PM, Ion-Mihai Tetcu ite...@freebsd.org wrote:
This 'stop the service before we install' seems to be a new fashion,
usually unneeded/disruptive.
IMO this should only happen when it's really
On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 09:46:02AM +0300, Ion-Mihai Tetcu wrote:
On Sun, 12 Sep 2010 06:45:47 +0800 Denny Lin dennyli...@hs.ntnu.edu.tw
wrote:
On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 11:35:43PM +0200, Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote:
On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 4:33 PM, Ion-Mihai Tetcu ite...@freebsd.org
wrote:
On 12/09/2010 07:46:02, Ion-Mihai Tetcu wrote:
And you can't really know if it's a new install or an upgrade.
An app like portmaster or portupgrade would be able to know that. It's
an oddity of the ports/pkg system that because 'upgrade' is implemented
as 'delete' followed by 'install' that
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On 09/12/2010 09:02, Matthew Seaman wrote:
On 12/09/2010 07:46:02, Ion-Mihai Tetcu wrote:
And you can't really know if it's a new install or an upgrade.
An app like portmaster or portupgrade would be able to know that. It's
an oddity of the
On 12/09/2010 15:46:18, jhell wrote:
On 09/12/2010 09:02, Matthew Seaman wrote:
On 12/09/2010 07:46:02, Ion-Mihai Tetcu wrote:
And you can't really know if it's a new install or an upgrade.
An app like portmaster or portupgrade would be able to know that. It's
an oddity of the ports/pkg
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On 09/12/2010 15:10, Matthew Seaman wrote:
On 12/09/2010 15:46:18, jhell wrote:
On 09/12/2010 09:02, Matthew Seaman wrote:
On 12/09/2010 07:46:02, Ion-Mihai Tetcu wrote:
And you can't really know if it's a new install or an upgrade.
An app like
Hi wxs and jpaetzel.
I noticed that dhcpd server stoped after portupgrade, sometimes.
It's a painful accident on my network. Because I didn't notice
some troubles:-(.
Why do you stop the daemons? Is it really absolutely necessary
to stop a service before
On Sat, 11 Sep 2010 22:29:02 +0900
Norikatsu Shigemura n...@freebsd.org wrote:
Hi wxs and jpaetzel.
I noticed that dhcpd server stoped after portupgrade,
sometimes. It's a painful accident on my network. Because I didn't
notice some troubles:-(.
Why do you stop the daemons?
Hi,
On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 4:33 PM, Ion-Mihai Tetcu ite...@freebsd.org wrote:
This 'stop the service before we install' seems to be a new fashion,
usually unneeded/disruptive.
IMO this should only happen when it's really needed, and with some big
warning printed.
And perhaps with a
On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 11:35:43PM +0200, Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote:
On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 4:33 PM, Ion-Mihai Tetcu ite...@freebsd.org wrote:
This 'stop the service before we install' seems to be a new fashion,
usually unneeded/disruptive.
IMO this should only happen when it's really
On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 05:33:59PM +0300, Ion-Mihai Tetcu wrote:
On Sat, 11 Sep 2010 22:29:02 +0900
Norikatsu Shigemura n...@freebsd.org wrote:
Hi wxs and jpaetzel.
I noticed that dhcpd server stoped after portupgrade,
sometimes. It's a painful accident on my network. Because I
On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 08:09:28PM -0400, Wesley Shields wrote:
On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 05:33:59PM +0300, Ion-Mihai Tetcu wrote:
On Sat, 11 Sep 2010 22:29:02 +0900
Norikatsu Shigemura n...@freebsd.org wrote:
Hi wxs and jpaetzel.
I noticed that dhcpd server stoped after
Hi everyone!
Thank you for my reply.
This problem is 'Yet another minor release engineering' for
all the world other environments. If you can give assurance
upgrading ports, you can stop the daemon (at least, I want to
restart it:-). But it's t
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