Re: HEADS UP: ports/ and 10.0-CURRENT

2011-09-29 Thread Jean-Sébastien Pédron
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 28.09.2011 21:32, Hartmann, O. wrote: > floating like a dead man in the water. I suspect the > conversters/libiconv broke something, since it claims it has > installed libiconv.so.3, but there is never such a shared object > installed! Here's what

Re: HEADS UP: ports/ and 10.0-CURRENT

2011-09-28 Thread Matt
On 09/28/11 15:41, Hartmann, O. wrote: On 09/28/11 22:18, Doug Barton wrote: On 09/28/2011 12:39, Hartmann, O. wrote: The mess started to happen when I tried to "repair" a non CLANG compiling port math/gotoblas with portmaster -vf amth/gotoblas. Since this build binutils and even gettext and li

Re: HEADS UP: ports/ and 10.0-CURRENT

2011-09-28 Thread Garrett Cooper
On Sep 28, 2011, at 4:36 PM, Matt wrote: > On 09/28/11 15:41, Hartmann, O. wrote: >> On 09/28/11 22:18, Doug Barton wrote: >>> On 09/28/2011 12:39, Hartmann, O. wrote: The mess started to happen when I tried to "repair" a non CLANG compiling port math/gotoblas with portmaster -vf amth/go

Re: HEADS UP: ports/ and 10.0-CURRENT

2011-09-28 Thread Hartmann, O.
On 09/28/11 22:18, Doug Barton wrote: > On 09/28/2011 12:39, Hartmann, O. wrote: >> The mess started to happen when I tried to "repair" a non CLANG >> compiling port math/gotoblas with portmaster -vf amth/gotoblas. >> Since this build binutils and even gettext and libiconv, I guess they >> got brok

Re: HEADS UP: ports/ and 10.0-CURRENT

2011-09-28 Thread h h
Garrett Cooper writes: >> >> So if I change /usr/src/sys/conf/newvers.sh to something like vers 9.9 I'm >> not >> going to shoot myself in the foot if I try and update? I would really like to >> avoid downgrading this box.I've altready been bitten once today and had to >> build packages on my ti

Re: HEADS UP: ports/ and 10.0-CURRENT

2011-09-28 Thread Beech Rintoul
On Wednesday 28 September 2011 12:53:23 Beech Rintoul wrote: > On Wednesday 28 September 2011 12:47:50 Doug Barton wrote: > > On 09/28/2011 13:45, Beech Rintoul wrote: > > > On Wednesday 28 September 2011 12:18:47 Doug Barton wrote: > > >> On 09/28/2011 12:39, Hartmann, O. wrote: > > >>> The mess s

Re: HEADS UP: ports/ and 10.0-CURRENT

2011-09-28 Thread Garrett Cooper
On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 1:45 PM, Beech Rintoul wrote: > On Wednesday 28 September 2011 12:18:47 Doug Barton wrote: >> On 09/28/2011 12:39, Hartmann, O. wrote: >> > The mess started to happen when I tried to "repair" a non CLANG >> > compiling port math/gotoblas with portmaster -vf amth/gotoblas. >

Re: HEADS UP: ports/ and 10.0-CURRENT

2011-09-28 Thread Beech Rintoul
On Wednesday 28 September 2011 12:47:50 Doug Barton wrote: > On 09/28/2011 13:45, Beech Rintoul wrote: > > On Wednesday 28 September 2011 12:18:47 Doug Barton wrote: > >> On 09/28/2011 12:39, Hartmann, O. wrote: > >>> The mess started to happen when I tried to "repair" a non CLANG > >>> compiling p

Re: HEADS UP: ports/ and 10.0-CURRENT

2011-09-28 Thread Doug Barton
On 09/28/2011 13:45, Beech Rintoul wrote: > On Wednesday 28 September 2011 12:18:47 Doug Barton wrote: >> On 09/28/2011 12:39, Hartmann, O. wrote: >>> The mess started to happen when I tried to "repair" a non CLANG >>> compiling port math/gotoblas with portmaster -vf amth/gotoblas. >>> Since this b

Re: HEADS UP: ports/ and 10.0-CURRENT

2011-09-28 Thread Beech Rintoul
On Wednesday 28 September 2011 12:18:47 Doug Barton wrote: > On 09/28/2011 12:39, Hartmann, O. wrote: > > The mess started to happen when I tried to "repair" a non CLANG > > compiling port math/gotoblas with portmaster -vf amth/gotoblas. > > Since this build binutils and even gettext and libiconv,

Re: HEADS UP: ports/ and 10.0-CURRENT

2011-09-28 Thread Doug Barton
On 09/28/2011 12:39, Hartmann, O. wrote: > The mess started to happen when I tried to "repair" a non CLANG > compiling port math/gotoblas with portmaster -vf amth/gotoblas. > Since this build binutils and even gettext and libiconv, I guess they > got broken. Last I saw was a successful installation

Re: HEADS UP: ports/ and 10.0-CURRENT

2011-09-28 Thread Hartmann, O.
On 09/28/11 21:30, Matt wrote: > On 09/28/11 12:16, Hartmann, O. wrote: >> On 09/28/11 20:56, Hartmann, O. wrote: >>> On 09/28/11 20:41, Garrett Cooper wrote: On Sep 28, 2011, at 11:38 AM, Hartmann, O. wrote: > On 09/28/11 20:20, h h wrote: >> "Hartmann, O." writes: >> >>

Re: HEADS UP: ports/ and 10.0-CURRENT

2011-09-28 Thread Hartmann, O.
On 09/28/11 21:16, Hartmann, O. wrote: > On 09/28/11 20:56, Hartmann, O. wrote: >> On 09/28/11 20:41, Garrett Cooper wrote: >>> On Sep 28, 2011, at 11:38 AM, Hartmann, O. wrote: >>> On 09/28/11 20:20, h h wrote: > "Hartmann, O." writes: > >> On 09/28/11 09:26, Hartmann, O. wrote:

Re: HEADS UP: ports/ and 10.0-CURRENT

2011-09-28 Thread Hartmann, O.
On 09/28/11 20:56, Hartmann, O. wrote: > On 09/28/11 20:41, Garrett Cooper wrote: >> On Sep 28, 2011, at 11:38 AM, Hartmann, O. wrote: >> >>> On 09/28/11 20:20, h h wrote: "Hartmann, O." writes: > On 09/28/11 09:26, Hartmann, O. wrote: > >> On 09/28/11 15:47, per...@pluto.rai

Re: HEADS UP: ports/ and 10.0-CURRENT

2011-09-28 Thread Hartmann, O.
On 09/28/11 20:41, Garrett Cooper wrote: > On Sep 28, 2011, at 11:38 AM, Hartmann, O. wrote: > >> On 09/28/11 20:20, h h wrote: >>> "Hartmann, O." writes: >>> On 09/28/11 09:26, Hartmann, O. wrote: > On 09/28/11 15:47, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: >> Eitan Adler wrote: >> >>

Re: HEADS UP: ports/ and 10.0-CURRENT

2011-09-28 Thread Garrett Cooper
On Sep 28, 2011, at 11:38 AM, Hartmann, O. wrote: > On 09/28/11 20:20, h h wrote: >> "Hartmann, O." writes: >> >>> On 09/28/11 09:26, Hartmann, O. wrote: >>> On 09/28/11 15:47, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: > Eitan Adler wrote: > >> 2011/9/27 O. Hartmann : >>> Now I unders

Re: HEADS UP: ports/ and 10.0-CURRENT

2011-09-28 Thread Hartmann, O.
On 09/28/11 20:20, h h wrote: > "Hartmann, O." writes: > >> On 09/28/11 09:26, Hartmann, O. wrote: >> >>> On 09/28/11 15:47, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: Eitan Adler wrote: > 2011/9/27 O. Hartmann : >> Now I understand why some OS vendors have choosen the latin >> 10 'X' for

Re: HEADS UP: ports/ and 10.0-CURRENT

2011-09-28 Thread h h
"Hartmann, O." writes: > On 09/28/11 09:26, Hartmann, O. wrote: > >> On 09/28/11 15:47, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: >>> Eitan Adler wrote: >>> 2011/9/27 O. Hartmann : > Now I understand why some OS vendors have choosen the latin > 10 'X' for their tenth version of their operating s

Re: HEADS UP: ports/ and 10.0-CURRENT

2011-09-28 Thread Garrett Cooper
On Sep 28, 2011, at 10:29 AM, Hartmann, O. wrote: > On 09/28/11 09:26, Hartmann, O. wrote: >> On 09/28/11 15:47, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: >>> Eitan Adler wrote: >>> 2011/9/27 O. Hartmann : > Now I understand why some OS vendors have choosen the latin > 10 'X' for their tenth ver

Re: HEADS UP: ports/ and 10.0-CURRENT

2011-09-28 Thread Hartmann, O.
On 09/28/11 09:26, Hartmann, O. wrote: > On 09/28/11 15:47, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: >> Eitan Adler wrote: >> >>> 2011/9/27 O. Hartmann : Now I understand why some OS vendors have choosen the latin 10 'X' for their tenth version of their operating system ... >>> FreeBSD XP anyone? >>

Re: HEADS UP: ports/ and 10.0-CURRENT

2011-09-28 Thread Hartmann, O.
On 09/28/11 15:47, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: > Eitan Adler wrote: > >> 2011/9/27 O. Hartmann : >>> Now I understand why some OS vendors have choosen the latin >>> 10 'X' for their tenth version of their operating system ... >> FreeBSD XP anyone? > Are you sure there's a sufficient window of opp

Re: HEADS UP: ports/ and 10.0-CURRENT

2011-09-27 Thread perryh
Eitan Adler wrote: > 2011/9/27 O. Hartmann : > > Now I understand why some OS vendors have choosen the latin > > 10 'X' for their tenth version of their operating system ... > > FreeBSD XP anyone? Are you sure there's a sufficient window of opportunity? :) ___

Re: HEADS UP: ports/ and 10.0-CURRENT

2011-09-27 Thread Chuck Swiger
Hi-- On Sep 27, 2011, at 11:50 AM, Gleb Kurtsou wrote: > It's more exciting than that. FreeBSD >= 10 is already seized by Apple :) > > http://www.google.com/codesearch#search/&q=__FreeBSD__%5CW%2B10&type=cs MacOS X doesn't define __FreeBSD__ either in CPP macros or the system headers: % touch f

Re: HEADS UP: ports/ and 10.0-CURRENT

2011-09-27 Thread Vlad Galu
On Sep 27, 2011, at 8:50 PM, Gleb Kurtsou wrote: > On (26/09/2011 23:03), Ade Lovett wrote: >> With the advent of the conversion of HEAD to 10.0-CURRENT and, as to be >> expected, ports/ is going to be essentially unusable for a while. >> >> The issue stems from configure scripts (to choose someth

Re: HEADS UP: ports/ and 10.0-CURRENT

2011-09-27 Thread Gleb Kurtsou
On (26/09/2011 23:03), Ade Lovett wrote: > With the advent of the conversion of HEAD to 10.0-CURRENT and, as to be > expected, ports/ is going to be essentially unusable for a while. > > The issue stems from configure scripts (to choose something completely > at random) assuming that FreeBSD would

Re: HEADS UP: ports/ and 10.0-CURRENT

2011-09-27 Thread Brandon Gooch
On Sep 27, 2011 10:04 AM, "Chris Rees" wrote: > > On 27 September 2011 10:18, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 10:28:49AM +0200, O. Hartmann wrote: > >> On 09/27/11 08:35, h h wrote: > >> >Kevin Oberman writes: > >> > > >> >>On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 9:03 PM, Ade Lovett wrote

Re: HEADS UP: ports/ and 10.0-CURRENT

2011-09-27 Thread Chris Rees
On 27 September 2011 10:18, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 10:28:49AM +0200, O. Hartmann wrote: >> On 09/27/11 08:35, h h wrote: >> >Kevin Oberman  writes: >> > >> >>On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 9:03 PM, Ade Lovett  wrote: >> >> >> >>>With the advent of the conversion of HEAD to 10

Re: HEADS UP: ports/ and 10.0-CURRENT

2011-09-27 Thread Hartmann, O.
On 09/27/11 16:27, Matthew D. Fuller wrote: > On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 09:36:17AM -0400 I heard the voice of > Robert Huff, and lo! it spake thus: >> Adrian Chadd writes: >>> Our children will be dealing with Y2038. :-) >> Statistically, some of us will. > Actually, I had to deal with it just last

Re: HEADS UP: ports/ and 10.0-CURRENT

2011-09-27 Thread Matthew D. Fuller
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 09:36:17AM -0400 I heard the voice of Robert Huff, and lo! it spake thus: > Adrian Chadd writes: > > Our children will be dealing with Y2038. :-) > > Statistically, some of us will. Actually, I had to deal with it just last week... -- Matthew Fuller (MF4839) | f

Re: HEADS UP: ports/ and 10.0-CURRENT

2011-09-27 Thread Robert Huff
Adrian Chadd writes: > >>  we can leave that to our grand children to figure out though 8) > > > >        Wasn't that what people said about two-digit years? > > Our children will be dealing with Y2038. :-) Statistically, some of us will. R

Re: HEADS UP: ports/ and 10.0-CURRENT

2011-09-27 Thread Doug Rabson
On 27 September 2011 13:57, Adrian Chadd wrote: > On 27 September 2011 20:22, Robert Huff wrote: > > > > krad writes: > >> we can leave that to our grand children to figure out though 8) > > > >Wasn't that what people said about two-digit years? > > Our children will be dealing with Y20

Re: HEADS UP: ports/ and 10.0-CURRENT

2011-09-27 Thread Adrian Chadd
On 27 September 2011 20:22, Robert Huff wrote: > > krad writes: >>  we can leave that to our grand children to figure out though 8) > >        Wasn't that what people said about two-digit years? Our children will be dealing with Y2038. :-) Adrian ___

Re: HEADS UP: ports/ and 10.0-CURRENT

2011-09-27 Thread Eitan Adler
2011/9/27 O. Hartmann : > Now I understand why some OS vendors have choosen the latin 10 'X' for their > tenth version of their operating system ... FreeBSD XP anyone? > ___ > freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/lis

Re: HEADS UP: ports/ and 10.0-CURRENT

2011-09-27 Thread Erik Trulsson
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 08:22:54AM -0400, Robert Huff wrote: > > krad writes: > > we can leave that to our grand children to figure out though 8) > > Wasn't that what people said about two-digit years? Not quite. There they mostly said "No way that this program will still be in use when

Re: HEADS UP: ports/ and 10.0-CURRENT

2011-09-27 Thread Robert Huff
krad writes: > we can leave that to our grand children to figure out though 8) Wasn't that what people said about two-digit years? Robert Huff ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://

Re: HEADS UP: ports/ and 10.0-CURRENT

2011-09-27 Thread h h
Eduardo Morras writes: > At 11:18 27/09/2011, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > >> > Now I understand why some OS vendors have choosen the latin 10 'X' for >> > their tenth version of their operating system ... >> >>At least there will be a long rest after >>the move to 10 is complete.. until FreeBSD 1

Re: HEADS UP: ports/ and 10.0-CURRENT

2011-09-27 Thread krad
On 27 September 2011 10:18, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 10:28:49AM +0200, O. Hartmann wrote: > > On 09/27/11 08:35, h h wrote: > > >Kevin Oberman writes: > > > > > >>On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 9:03 PM, Ade Lovett wrote: > > >> > > >>>With the advent of the conversion of HEA

Re: outside the box (Re: HEADS UP: ports/ and 10.0-CURRENT)

2011-09-27 Thread O. Hartmann
On 09/27/11 16:46, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: Ade Lovett wrote: The undeniable fact is that configure scripts in general have chosen to do things a certain way. Unfortunately for us (us being FreeBSD), we have now broken these conceptions by moving to a dual-digit major release. I don't s

Re: HEADS UP: ports/ and 10.0-CURRENT

2011-09-27 Thread Eduardo Morras
At 11:18 27/09/2011, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > Now I understand why some OS vendors have choosen the latin 10 'X' for > their tenth version of their operating system ... At least there will be a long rest after the move to 10 is complete.. until FreeBSD 100. Or move to hexadecimal $ export

Re: HEADS UP: ports/ and 10.0-CURRENT

2011-09-27 Thread Anton Shterenlikht
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 10:28:49AM +0200, O. Hartmann wrote: > On 09/27/11 08:35, h h wrote: > >Kevin Oberman writes: > > > >>On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 9:03 PM, Ade Lovett wrote: > >> > >>>With the advent of the conversion of HEAD to 10.0-CURRENT and, as to be > >>>expected, ports/ is going to be e

Re: HEADS UP: ports/ and 10.0-CURRENT

2011-09-27 Thread Garrett Cooper
On Tue, 27 Sep 2011, h h wrote: Kevin Oberman writes: On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 9:03 PM, Ade Lovett wrote: With the advent of the conversion of HEAD to 10.0-CURRENT and, as to be expected, ports/ is going to be essentially unusable for a while. The issue stems from configure scripts (to cho

Re: HEADS UP: ports/ and 10.0-CURRENT

2011-09-27 Thread O. Hartmann
On 09/27/11 08:35, h h wrote: Kevin Oberman writes: On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 9:03 PM, Ade Lovett wrote: With the advent of the conversion of HEAD to 10.0-CURRENT and, as to be expected, ports/ is going to be essentially unusable for a while. The issue stems from configure scripts (to choose

outside the box (Re: HEADS UP: ports/ and 10.0-CURRENT)

2011-09-27 Thread perryh
Ade Lovett wrote: > The undeniable fact is that configure scripts in general have > chosen to do things a certain way. Unfortunately for us (us > being FreeBSD), we have now broken these conceptions by moving > to a dual-digit major release. I don't suppose REVISION="A.1" i.e. using a sing

Re: HEADS UP: ports/ and 10.0-CURRENT

2011-09-27 Thread Daniel O'Connor
On 27/09/2011, at 13:33, Ade Lovett wrote: > That is to say, until 9.0-R happens, and for some considerable period > afterwards, ya'll can pretty much expect ports/ to be non-functional on > HEAD. PRs mentioning this will be gleefully closed referencing this > message. I imagine you can work aro

Re: HEADS UP: ports/ and 10.0-CURRENT

2011-09-26 Thread h h
Kevin Oberman writes: > On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 9:03 PM, Ade Lovett wrote: > >> With the advent of the conversion of HEAD to 10.0-CURRENT and, as to be >> expected, ports/ is going to be essentially unusable for a while. >> >> The issue stems from configure scripts (to choose something completel

Re: HEADS UP: ports/ and 10.0-CURRENT

2011-09-26 Thread Ade Lovett
> It just means that folks didn't plan ahead and didn't think up > proper contingency plans. First off, apologies to Garrett, I'm not picking on you directly, but I kinda knew this would come up. The undeniable fact is that configure scripts in general have chosen to do things a certain way. Un

Re: HEADS UP: ports/ and 10.0-CURRENT

2011-09-26 Thread Garrett Cooper
On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 9:56 PM, Kevin Oberman wrote: > On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 9:03 PM, Ade Lovett wrote: >> With the advent of the conversion of HEAD to 10.0-CURRENT and, as to be >> expected, ports/ is going to be essentially unusable for a while. >> >> The issue stems from configure scripts (

Re: HEADS UP: ports/ and 10.0-CURRENT

2011-09-26 Thread Garrett Cooper
On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 10:15 PM, Kevin Oberman wrote: > On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 10:01 PM, Garrett Cooper wrote: >> It's not the FreeBSD dev's fault. Unfortunately the autotools folks >> were microoptimizing and didn't consider that the future would come >> sooner than it actually did. > > First,

Re: HEADS UP: ports/ and 10.0-CURRENT

2011-09-26 Thread Kevin Oberman
On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 10:01 PM, Garrett Cooper wrote: > It's not the FreeBSD dev's fault. Unfortunately the autotools folks > were microoptimizing and didn't consider that the future would come > sooner than it actually did. Garrett, First, I'm not complaining or criticizing any of the develop

Re: HEADS UP: ports/ and 10.0-CURRENT

2011-09-26 Thread Kevin Oberman
On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 9:03 PM, Ade Lovett wrote: > With the advent of the conversion of HEAD to 10.0-CURRENT and, as to be > expected, ports/ is going to be essentially unusable for a while. > > The issue stems from configure scripts (to choose something completely > at random) assuming that Fre

HEADS UP: ports/ and 10.0-CURRENT

2011-09-26 Thread Ade Lovett
With the advent of the conversion of HEAD to 10.0-CURRENT and, as to be expected, ports/ is going to be essentially unusable for a while. The issue stems from configure scripts (to choose something completely at random) assuming that FreeBSD would never jump to a double-digit major version number,