Re: deprecated ports

2011-03-16 Thread b. f.
That said, I think that un-deprecating these ports just because someone can find a distfile somewhere is the wrong approach. bapt has been very careful to only deprecate ports that are on the absolute bottom of the pile. They are unmaintained, and unfetchable. That's not completely accurate.

Re: deprecated ports

2011-03-16 Thread Matthias Andree
Am 15.03.2011 23:19, schrieb Baptiste Daroussin: 2011/3/15 Charlie Kestercorky1...@comcast.net I see there's been another few batch commits deprecating some unmaintained ports where upstream is gone and/or distfile is no longer available. Maintainers and prospective maintainers should be sure

Re: deprecated ports

2011-03-16 Thread Baptiste Daroussin
2011/3/16 Matthias Andree mand...@freebsd.org Baptiste, I generally agree with your approach, and as Doug pointed out, it has worked out fine. Those ports that people had interest in triggered, for instance, Charlie's response. However, we should be sure to find maintainers before ports

Re: deprecated ports

2011-03-16 Thread Mark Linimon
+ the period emails from portsmon about deprecated ports. The next one of those is scheduled in the next few days. (Remember, too, that deleted ports can always be brought back from the Attic, if there is sufficient cause.) mcl ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org

Re: deprecated ports

2011-03-16 Thread Mark Linimon
On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 06:15:11AM +, b. f. wrote: But it's not clear to me why, for example, some usable fonts were deprecated -- fonts often don't have homepages. The deprecations are (currently) advisory-only. If people are using these ports, and want to keep them, then they need to

Re: deprecated ports

2011-03-16 Thread Paul Schmehl
--On March 16, 2011 6:15:11 AM + b. f. bf1...@googlemail.com wrote: That said, I think that un-deprecating these ports just because someone can find a distfile somewhere is the wrong approach. bapt has been very careful to only deprecate ports that are on the absolute bottom of the pile.

Re: deprecated ports

2011-03-16 Thread Charlie Kester
On Wed 16 Mar 2011 at 03:45:25 PDT Matthias Andree wrote: However, we should be sure to find maintainers before ports are undeprecated, else we run into a cycle of deprecation, reviving the port, deprecating it again, and so on. I definitely agree with this. If someone wants to get one of

Re: deprecated ports

2011-03-16 Thread Michel Talon
Ruslan Mahmatkhanov wrote: I also saw that graphics/gimp-greycstoration is finally deprecated. Baptiste you may want to look at ports/154596 to close it. In fact this is an interesting plugin which is superseded by gmic from the same author David Tschumperlé

deprecated ports

2011-03-15 Thread Charlie Kester
I see there's been another few batch commits deprecating some unmaintained ports where upstream is gone and/or distfile is no longer available. Maintainers and prospective maintainers should be sure to look at the ports listed in these commits. I don't think much effort was made to check the

Re: deprecated ports

2011-03-15 Thread Jason Helfman
On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 02:58:01PM -0700, Charlie Kester thus spake: I see there's been another few batch commits deprecating some unmaintained ports where upstream is gone and/or distfile is no longer available. Maintainers and prospective maintainers should be sure to look at the ports listed

Re: deprecated ports

2011-03-15 Thread Charlie Kester
On Tue 15 Mar 2011 at 14:59:57 PDT Jason Helfman wrote: On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 02:58:01PM -0700, Charlie Kester thus spake: I see there's been another few batch commits deprecating some unmaintained ports where upstream is gone and/or distfile is no longer available. Maintainers and

Re: deprecated ports

2011-03-15 Thread Baptiste Daroussin
2011/3/15 Charlie Kester corky1...@comcast.net I see there's been another few batch commits deprecating some unmaintained ports where upstream is gone and/or distfile is no longer available. Maintainers and prospective maintainers should be sure to look at the ports listed in these commits.

Re: deprecated ports

2011-03-15 Thread Baptiste Daroussin
2011/3/15 Charlie Kester corky1...@comcast.net On Tue 15 Mar 2011 at 14:59:57 PDT Jason Helfman wrote: On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 02:58:01PM -0700, Charlie Kester thus spake: I see there's been another few batch commits deprecating some unmaintained ports where upstream is gone and/or distfile

Re: deprecated ports

2011-03-15 Thread Charlie Kester
On Tue 15 Mar 2011 at 15:19:29 PDT Baptiste Daroussin wrote: I am responsible for the deprecation and I have done more than just look if the distfiles fetch (I fixed lot of them) I may have missed some for sure, when when I deprecate sysutils/lookat I wasn't able to join the main website nor

Re: deprecated ports

2011-03-15 Thread Baptiste Daroussin
2011/3/15 Charlie Kester corky1...@comcast.net On Tue 15 Mar 2011 at 15:19:29 PDT Baptiste Daroussin wrote: I am responsible for the deprecation and I have done more than just look if the distfiles fetch (I fixed lot of them) I may have missed some for sure, when when I deprecate

Re: deprecated ports

2011-03-15 Thread Doug Barton
On 03/15/2011 15:16, Charlie Kester wrote: BTW, I don't use either of these, or gimpshop, so I'm not going to fix the ports myself. Instead, I'll leave that to anyone who's interested. Charlie, I think you've been very diplomatic in your approach, so to be clear I don't have a problem with

Re: deprecated ports

2011-03-15 Thread Ruslan Mahmatkhanov
16.03.2011 01:27, Charlie Kester пишет: Maybe it wasn't there when you looked, but http://www.gimpshop.com/download.shtml has links to download sources for both the development version and the latest release (2.2.8). They even have an alternate link for the release version. gimpshop is pretty

Re: deprecated ports

2011-03-15 Thread Michal Varga
On Wed, 2011-03-16 at 07:40 +0300, Ruslan Mahmatkhanov wrote: gimpshop is pretty old and development seems stalled. The next gimp release will have gimpshop-like UI by default so i think it worth deprecating. That's almost too optimistic thing to say at the moment, as GIMP's single window