Re: postgresql-server depends on client. Why?

2014-10-19 Thread Roger Marquis
Palle Girgensohn wrote: So, apart from the obvious "I want to upgrade the client separately (before) the server", there are no arguments for not doing it the way we do it now. But maybe that argument is enough to motivate a change? KIS is one reason we do not install clients with server (of ot

Re: postgresql-server depends on client. Why?

2014-10-18 Thread Dan Langille
On Oct 17, 2014, at 10:44 AM, Palle Girgensohn wrote: > Thing is, we install header files and man pages in the client only, if memory > serves me right. Also, tools like createdb are in the client package. > > So, apart from the obvious "I want to upgrade the client separately (before) > the

Re: postgresql-server depends on client. Why?

2014-10-17 Thread Baptiste Daroussin
On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 04:44:47PM +0200, Palle Girgensohn wrote: > Thing is, we install header files and man pages in the client only, if memory > serves me right. Also, tools like createdb are in the client package. > > So, apart from the obvious "I want to upgrade the client separately (befor

Re: postgresql-server depends on client. Why?

2014-10-17 Thread Palle Girgensohn
Thing is, we install header files and man pages in the client only, if memory serves me right. Also, tools like createdb are in the client package. So, apart from the obvious "I want to upgrade the client separately (before) the server", there are no arguments for not doing it the way we do it

Re: Re: postgresql-server depends on client. Why?

2014-10-17 Thread Olli Hauer
In case the dependency on thr client will be removed all ports depending on the server alone at the moment should be checked if they also require the client part. Additional clients should not define a conflict with server versions < client version -- Sent from my Android phone

Re: postgresql-server depends on client. Why?

2014-10-17 Thread Palle Girgensohn
Hi Dan, Well, it has always been like that, actually. PostgreSQL does not really support installing them completely separately. PostgreSQL does support minimiziing the installation to the client only, but not really the other way around. Maybe they are independent, I didn't really check it ou

Re: postgresql-server depends on client. Why?

2014-10-17 Thread Chris Rees
Hi Dan, http://svnweb.freebsd.org/ports/head/databases/postgresql90-server/Makefile?revision=286930&view=markup#l64 It was always supposed to be the case, however I agree that it's probably not necessary. Anyone mind if it doesn't depend? Chris On 17 October 2014 15:12:51 BST, Dan Langille

postgresql-server depends on client. Why?

2014-10-17 Thread Dan Langille
Why is postgresql-server dependent upon postgresql-client? This wasn’t the case in the past and seems to be the case not. Not all server installations need the client. In addition, upgrading the client before upgrading the server is standard procedure: http://www.postgresql.org/docs/9.3/stat