Re: FreeBSD router two DSL connections

2006-01-01 Thread Michael Vince
Yance Kowara wrote: Hi all, I am trying to figure out if *BSD can achieve this: I have two DSL connections to play with, and I would like to configure a *BSD router that can combine the two DSLs together. There is a howto at http://stevenfettig.com/mythoughts/archives/000173.php But it

Re: FreeBSD router two DSL connections

2005-12-31 Thread Loren M. Lang
On Wed, Dec 21, 2005 at 09:55:37AM -0800, Danial Thom wrote: --- Loren M. Lang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Dec 11, 2005 at 11:28:17PM -0800, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: If both DSL lines go to the same ISP it is easy, run PPP on them and setup multilink PPP. The ISP has

Re: FreeBSD router two DSL connections

2005-12-31 Thread Loren M. Lang
To: Loren M. Lang; Ted Mittelstaedt Cc: Yance Kowara; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD router two DSL connections All upstream ISPs are connected to everyone on the internet, so it doesn't matter which you send your packets to (the entire point

RE: FreeBSD router two DSL connections

2005-12-31 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
-Original Message- From: Loren M. Lang [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 6:31 PM To: Danial Thom Cc: Loren M. Lang; Ted Mittelstaedt; Yance Kowara; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD router two DSL connections On Wed, Dec 21, 2005 at 09:55

RE: FreeBSD router two DSL connections

2005-12-27 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
Cc: Yance Kowara; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: FreeBSD router two DSL connections Ted the incompetent, wrong on all counts once again: --- Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: Danial Thom [mailto:[EMAIL

RE: FreeBSD router two DSL connections

2005-12-27 Thread Danial Thom
two DSL connections As stated, even by Ted, you have to register ALL of your addresses with ALL of your ISPs, so you can send your packets to ANYONE you want, even if they are filtering. No, what I said is that any ISP that is an end-node AS and gets a feed from a network must

RE: FreeBSD router two DSL connections

2005-12-27 Thread Danial Thom
--- Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does it meet the test I already outlined? Download the FreeBSD iso then upload it to a remote server, with both lines connected. Time it. Disconnect 1 line, then repeat the test. If the time to download and upload when both DSL lines

RE: FreeBSD router two DSL connections

2005-12-27 Thread Danial Thom
--- Danial Thom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does it meet the test I already outlined? Download the FreeBSD iso then upload it to a remote server, with both lines connected. Time it. Disconnect 1 line, then repeat the test.

RE: FreeBSD router two DSL connections

2005-12-27 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: FreeBSD router two DSL connections As stated, even by Ted, you have to register ALL of your addresses with ALL of your ISPs, so you can send your packets to ANYONE you want, even if they are filtering. No, what I said is that any

RE: FreeBSD router two DSL connections

2005-12-27 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
Quoting Danial Thom [EMAIL PROTECTED]: --- Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does it meet the test I already outlined? Download the FreeBSD iso then upload it to a remote server, with both lines connected. Time it. Disconnect 1 line, then repeat the test. If

RE: FreeBSD router two DSL connections

2005-12-27 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
Quoting Danial Thom [EMAIL PROTECTED]: --- Danial Thom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does it meet the test I already outlined? Download the FreeBSD iso then upload it to a remote server, with both lines connected.

RE: FreeBSD router two DSL connections

2005-12-26 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
-Original Message- From: Danial Thom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 23, 2005 3:47 PM To: Ted Mittelstaedt; Loren M. Lang Cc: Yance Kowara; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: FreeBSD router two DSL connections Ted the incompetent, wrong on all counts once again

RE: FreeBSD router two DSL connections

2005-12-26 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Yance Kowara Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2005 6:09 AM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: FreeBSD router two DSL connections Ted, you have to think outside the box. Life is more than one

RE: FreeBSD router two DSL connections

2005-12-26 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Danial Thom Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2005 7:48 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Yance Kowara; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: FreeBSD router two DSL connections --- Danial Thom [EMAIL PROTECTED

RE: FreeBSD router two DSL connections

2005-12-26 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
-Original Message- From: Danial Thom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2005 7:59 AM To: Ted Mittelstaedt; Winelfred G. Pasamba Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: FreeBSD router two DSL connections --- Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL

RE: FreeBSD router two DSL connections

2005-12-26 Thread Danial Thom
Kowara; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD router two DSL connections All upstream ISPs are connected to everyone on the internet, so it doesn't matter which you send your packets to (the entire point of a connectionless network. They both can forward your

RE: FreeBSD router two DSL connections

2005-12-26 Thread Danial Thom
two DSL connections --- Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.edimax.com/html/english/products/PRI582.htm ...Performs Outbound load balancing by session, weight round robin or traffic... Note that they say by SESSION not by PACKET. It's

RE: FreeBSD router two DSL connections

2005-12-26 Thread Danial Thom
Kowara; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD router two DSL connections All upstream ISPs are connected to everyone on the internet, so it doesn't matter which you send your packets to (the entire point of a connectionless network. They both can forward your

Re: FreeBSD router two DSL connections

2005-12-26 Thread Winelfred G. Pasamba
; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: FreeBSD router two DSL connections Ted the incompetent, wrong on all counts once again: --- Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: Danial Thom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent

RE: FreeBSD router two DSL connections

2005-12-26 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
-Original Message- From: Danial Thom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 26, 2005 7:48 AM To: Ted Mittelstaedt; Loren M. Lang Cc: Yance Kowara; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: FreeBSD router two DSL connections --- Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote

RE: FreeBSD router two DSL connections

2005-12-26 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
-Original Message- From: Danial Thom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 26, 2005 7:50 AM To: Ted Mittelstaedt; Winelfred G. Pasamba Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: FreeBSD router two DSL connections As stated, even by Ted, you have

RE: FreeBSD router two DSL connections

2005-12-26 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
-Original Message- From: Danial Thom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 26, 2005 7:58 AM To: Ted Mittelstaedt; Loren M. Lang Cc: Yance Kowara; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: FreeBSD router two DSL connections You're not using illegal addresses when you load

RE: FreeBSD router two DSL connections

2005-12-24 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD router two DSL connections I wonder if these routers are using freebsd http://www.edimax.com/html/english/products/list-router.htm 2 WAN, 4 WAN, etc... and i also wonder what happens if one WAN goes down? or if the WANs are of different speeds? On 12/23/05, Ted

RE: FreeBSD router two DSL connections

2005-12-24 Thread Yance Kowara
Ted, you have to think outside the box. Life is more than one connection. While you can't increase the throughput of a single connection, you can increase the throughput of your network, which is usually the point. Throughput in this context is capacity. Throughput is not only what you can

RE: FreeBSD router two DSL connections

2005-12-24 Thread Danial Thom
--- Yance Kowara [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ted, you have to think outside the box. Life is more than one connection. While you can't increase the throughput of a single connection, you can increase the throughput of your network, which is usually the point. Throughput in this

RE: FreeBSD router two DSL connections

2005-12-24 Thread Danial Thom
--- Danial Thom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Yance Kowara [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ted, you have to think outside the box. Life is more than one connection. While you can't increase the throughput of a single connection, you can increase the throughput of your

RE: FreeBSD router two DSL connections

2005-12-24 Thread Danial Thom
--- Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.edimax.com/html/english/products/PRI582.htm ...Performs Outbound load balancing by session, weight round robin or traffic... Note that they say by SESSION not by PACKET. It's marketingspeak. They are simply using the term

RE: FreeBSD router two DSL connections

2005-12-23 Thread Danial Thom
@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD router two DSL connections All upstream ISPs are connected to everyone on the internet, so it doesn't matter which you send your packets to (the entire point of a connectionless network. They both can forward your traffic to wherever its going

RE: FreeBSD router two DSL connections

2005-12-23 Thread Danial Thom
--- Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: Loren M. Lang [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 9:47 AM To: Ted Mittelstaedt Cc: Yance Kowara; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD router two DSL connections

RE: FreeBSD router two DSL connections

2005-12-22 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
-Original Message- From: Danial Thom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 9:56 AM To: Loren M. Lang; Ted Mittelstaedt Cc: Yance Kowara; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD router two DSL connections All upstream ISPs are connected to everyone

RE: FreeBSD router two DSL connections

2005-12-22 Thread pretenda
Which is not redundant. Considering the OP asked for specifics on how to do this and your response as been a bunch of theoretical gobbdleygook that is flat out wrong network theory, you haven't done anything to help the poor bastard. Hi, This is a pretty firey debate. I

Re: FreeBSD router two DSL connections

2005-12-22 Thread Nathan Vidican
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Which is not redundant. Considering the OP asked for specifics on how to do this and your response as been a bunch of theoretical gobbdleygook that is flat out wrong network theory, you haven't done anything to help the poor bastard. Hi, This

RE: FreeBSD router two DSL connections

2005-12-22 Thread Steve Bertrand
If you have read this thread you will have already seen that you cannot get increased throughput this way. As I asked before, explain how a DSL line to SpiritOne running at 1MBit/sec and a Comcast cable connection running at 1MBit/sec will allow you to download the FreeBSD release iso

RE: FreeBSD router two DSL connections

2005-12-22 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 3:09 AM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: FreeBSD router two DSL connections Which is not redundant. Considering the OP asked

Re: FreeBSD router two DSL connections

2005-12-22 Thread Winelfred G. Pasamba
Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 3:09 AM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: FreeBSD router two DSL connections Which is not redundant. Considering the OP asked for specifics

Re: FreeBSD router two DSL connections

2005-12-21 Thread Loren M. Lang
. Ted -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Yance Kowara Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2005 7:03 PM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD router two DSL connections Hi all, I am trying to figure out if *BSD can achieve

Re: FreeBSD router two DSL connections

2005-12-21 Thread Danial Thom
--- Loren M. Lang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Dec 11, 2005 at 11:28:17PM -0800, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: If both DSL lines go to the same ISP it is easy, run PPP on them and setup multilink PPP. The ISP has to do so also. If they are going to different ISP's then you

Re: FreeBSD router two DSL connections

2005-12-21 Thread Danial Thom
--- Danial Thom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Loren M. Lang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Dec 11, 2005 at 11:28:17PM -0800, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: If both DSL lines go to the same ISP it is easy, run PPP on them and setup multilink PPP. The ISP has to do so

RE: FreeBSD router two DSL connections

2005-12-21 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
-Original Message- From: Loren M. Lang [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 9:47 AM To: Ted Mittelstaedt Cc: Yance Kowara; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD router two DSL connections On Sun, Dec 11, 2005 at 11:28:17PM -0800, Ted Mittelstaedt

RE: FreeBSD router two DSL connections

2005-12-13 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Yance Kowara Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 6:47 PM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD router two DSL connections Hmm, what about putting zebra into the picture ... a solution

Re: FreeBSD router two DSL connections

2005-12-13 Thread Winelfred G. Pasamba
-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD router two DSL connections i use pfSense (www.pfsense.com) pfSense is a open source firewall derived from the m0n0wall operating system platform with radically different goals such as using Packet Filter, FreeBSD 6.X (or DragonFly BSD when ALTQ

RE: FreeBSD router two DSL connections

2005-12-13 Thread Gayn Winters
-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD router two DSL connections i use pfSense (www.pfsense.com) Sigh. THIS IS NOT LOAD BALANCING PLEASE QUIT BEING SLOPPY WITH YOUR NETWORKING TERMS I refer you to the pfsense website itself: http://faq.pfsense.org/index.php?sid=13525lang

RE: FreeBSD router two DSL connections

2005-12-13 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Gayn Winters Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 7:49 AM To: 'Ted Mittelstaedt'; 'Winelfred G. Pasamba'; 'Yance Kowara' Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: FreeBSD router two DSL connections

RE: FreeBSD router two DSL connections

2005-12-12 Thread Yance Kowara
two DSL connections Hi all, I am trying to figure out if *BSD can achieve this: I have two DSL connections to play with, and I would like to configure a *BSD router that can combine the two DSLs together. There is a howto at http://stevenfettig.com/mythoughts/archives/000173.php

Re: FreeBSD router two DSL connections

2005-12-12 Thread Eric F Crist
On Dec 12, 2005, at 2:05 AM, Yance Kowara wrote: Ted, Thanks for the advice. A friend of mine has just acquired an Internet Cafe. The previous owner connected the lan to 2 different ADSL (two different ISPs) one is a back up he said. So, two ADSL routers with half the Lan connected to one

Re: FreeBSD router two DSL connections

2005-12-12 Thread Yance Kowara
--- Eric F Crist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 12, 2005, at 2:05 AM, Yance Kowara wrote: Ted, Thanks for the advice. A friend of mine has just acquired an Internet Cafe. The previous owner connected the lan to 2 different ADSL (two different ISPs) one is a back up he said.

RE: FreeBSD router two DSL connections

2005-12-12 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
-Original Message- From: Yance Kowara [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2005 11:57 PM To: Ted Mittelstaedt Subject: RE: FreeBSD router two DSL connections Ted, Thanks for the advice. A friend of mine has just acquired an Internet Cafe. The previous owner connected

Re: FreeBSD router two DSL connections

2005-12-12 Thread Winelfred G. Pasamba
i use pfSense (www.pfsense.com) pfSense is a open source firewall derived from the m0n0wall operating system platform with radically different goals such as using Packet Filter, FreeBSD 6.X (or DragonFly BSD when ALTQ and CARP is finished) ALTQ for excellent packet queueing and finally an

RE: FreeBSD router two DSL connections

2005-12-12 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Yance Kowara Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 4:33 AM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD router two DSL connections --- Eric F Crist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 12, 2005, at 2:05

Re: FreeBSD router two DSL connections

2005-12-12 Thread Nathan Vidican
Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Yance Kowara Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 4:33 AM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD router two DSL connections --- Eric F Crist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote

Re: FreeBSD router two DSL connections

2005-12-12 Thread Yance Kowara
Hmm, what about putting zebra into the picture ... a solution or chaos? What feature in Zebra exactly do you think will help in this scenario? Ted ___ I am just crawling in the dark here... If the upstream packets can be send

Re: FreeBSD router two DSL connections

2005-12-12 Thread James Long
This is for an internet cafe, right? Not a mission-critical system? Yes, I realize your mission is providing internet, but Buy two DSL feeds, and two WAPs. Put one WAP on each feed. Set them to different SSIDs and different RF channels. Then the wi-fi clients will associate with one or the

RE: FreeBSD router two DSL connections

2005-12-12 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Winelfred G. Pasamba Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 8:26 AM To: Yance Kowara Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD router two DSL connections i use pfSense (www.pfsense.com) pfSense

RE: FreeBSD router two DSL connections

2005-12-12 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
-Original Message- From: Nathan Vidican [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 11:08 AM To: Ted Mittelstaedt Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD router two DSL connections You could, if the purpose is to combine bandwidth accross

FreeBSD router two DSL connections

2005-12-11 Thread Yance Kowara
Hi all, I am trying to figure out if *BSD can achieve this: I have two DSL connections to play with, and I would like to configure a *BSD router that can combine the two DSLs together. There is a howto at http://stevenfettig.com/mythoughts/archives/000173.php But it concerns OpenBSD and it was

RE: FreeBSD router two DSL connections

2005-12-11 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
at a single entity. Ted -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Yance Kowara Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2005 7:03 PM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD router two DSL connections Hi all, I am trying to figure out if *BSD can