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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Robert Marella
> Sent: Friday, February 11, 2005 2:16 PM
> To: Ted Mittelstaedt
> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Garance A Drosehn
> Subject: RE: Please don't change Beastie to another crap logo sucha
"Ted Mittelstaedt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> With BSD, the copyrights on it are held by the University of Berkeley
> and by the FreeBSD Project.
No, they aren't. RTFS. Just a couple of examples:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~% grep -r 'Copyright.*Dag-Erling' /usr/src | wc -l
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in the world you should have a vote: was RE: Please
> don't change Beastie to another crap logo suchas NetBSD!!!
>
>
> "Ted Mittelstaedt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > With BSD, the copyrights on it are held by the University of Berkeley
> > and
Ted Mittelstaedt writes:
> I don't see why you are so proud of not doing this. Is it your
> intention to cause problems for companies that want to use FreeBSD
> in their products? This sort of thing is exactly what the
> chicken littles like Anthony are talking about.
It surprises and worries m
On Saturday 12 February 2005 12:46, Anthony Atkielski wrote:
> Ted Mittelstaedt writes:
> > I don't see why you are so proud of not doing this. Is it your
> > intention to cause problems for companies that want to use FreeBSD
> > in their products? This sort of thing is exactly what the
> > chick
"Ted Mittelstaedt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I don't see why you are so proud of not doing this. Is it your
> intention to cause problems for companies that want to use FreeBSD
> in their products? This sort of thing is exactly what the
> chicken littles like Anthony are talking about. It is
On Fri, 2005-02-11 at 23:12 -0800, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
>
> >
> > Why in the world should I expect to be able to vote on whether a new
> > logo is adopted or not?
> >
>
> I will tell you exactly why and it is one of the most exciting reasons
> to use FreeBSD.
>
> It is EVERYONE WHO CONTRIB
Anthony Atkielski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> It surprises and worries me that anyone does it, for precisely the
> reasons that you describe. Should I ever contribute code to FreeBSD,
> I'll just assign the copyright
To whom? The FreeBSD project is not a legal entity.
>
Dag-Erling Smørgrav writes:
> You need to understand the difference between copyright and license,
> and stop looking for black helicopters.
There isn't any difference. Without copyrights, there are no licenses;
without licenses, there are no copyrights.
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Dag-Erling Smørgrav writes:
> To whom? The FreeBSD project is not a legal entity.
Then I can release it to the public domain.
> That is a very bad idea, because you can't disclaim liability for work
> which you release in the public domain.
Whether you retain or relinquish the copyright has no
Anthony Atkielski wrote:
Dag-Erling Smørgrav writes:
You need to understand the difference between copyright and license,
and stop looking for black helicopters.
There isn't any difference. Without copyrights, there are no licenses;
without licenses, there are no copyrights.
A = "copyright", B = "
Chuck Swiger writes:
> A = "copyright", B = "license". A != B.
A license is limited permission to use copyrighted material. A
copyright is the right to restrict the use of material without a
license.
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On 12 Feb 2005, at 07:12, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
With BSD, the copyrights on it are held by the University of Berkeley
and by the FreeBSD Project.
Really? Grepped for Copyright in /usr/src recently?
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Ceri Davies writes:
> Really? Grepped for Copyright in /usr/src recently?
Wow! What a mess! How much would it cost to have a team of lawyers
verify that all those copyrights are cleared? Why are people asserting
their own copyrights in the code?
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Anthony Atkielski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Why are people asserting their own copyrights in the code?
Because they wrote the software in question, perhaps?
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On Sun, Feb 13, 2005 at 05:02:19PM +0100, Anthony Atkielski wrote:
> Ceri Davies writes:
>
> > Really? Grepped for Copyright in /usr/src recently?
>
> Wow! What a mess! How much would it cost to have a team of lawyers
> verify that all those copyrights are cleared? Why are people asserting
>
Peter N. M. Hansteen writes:
> Because they wrote the software in question, perhaps?
So? If it's truly open source, the copyrights should be assigned. All
it takes is one copyright holder who withdraws a license and an entire
package can become unusable.
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* Anthony Atkielski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [0216 21:16]:
> Peter N. M. Hansteen writes:
>
> > Because they wrote the software in question, perhaps?
>
> So? If it's truly open source, the copyrights should be assigned. All
> it takes is one copyright holder who withdraws a license and an entire
> p
Dick Davies writes:
> Shut up now, ok? or take it elsewhere.
Don't forget discovery.
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Anthony Atkielski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Because they wrote the software in question, perhaps?
>
> So? If it's truly open source, the copyrights should be assigned.
copyright assignment isn't entirely doable in all jurisdictions, and
beside the point.
> All it takes is one copyright
Peter N. M. Hansteen writes:
> copyright assignment isn't entirely doable in all jurisdictions, and
> beside the point.
Generally, commercial rights can always be assigned. Moral rights often
cannot be assigned, but since they are practically worthless, this
usually isn't a problem.
> i assume
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