Re: defragmentation in FreeBSD 4.11

2005-07-29 Thread MikeM
On 7/28/2005 at 11:57 AM Bob Johnson wrote: |Microsoft used to claim that NTFS doesn't need defragmentation. |Compared to MSDOSFS, that's a reasonably accurate statement, but |if you push it hard enough, it will still become fragmented. = The process of installing Windows on a

Re: defragmentation in FreeBSD 4.11

2005-07-29 Thread Daniel Marsh
On Fri, 29 Jul 2005 21:13:49 +0800, MikeM [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/28/2005 at 11:57 AM Bob Johnson wrote: |Microsoft used to claim that NTFS doesn't need defragmentation. |Compared to MSDOSFS, that's a reasonably accurate statement, but |if you push it hard enough, it will still become

Re: defragmentation in FreeBSD 4.11

2005-07-28 Thread Victor Semionov
This is one of the things I find really hard to get Windows users to understand. They just won't believe that a company like Microsoft would still be using a filesystem that needs defragmenting if it were possible to design one that didn't. I often wonder why myself - after all, they must

RE: defragmentation in FreeBSD 4.11

2005-07-28 Thread MikeM
On 7/27/2005 at 7:30 PM Mike Jeays wrote: |This is one of the things I find really hard to get Windows users to |understand. They just won't believe that a company like Microsoft would |still be using a filesystem that needs defragmenting if it were possible |to design one that didn't. I often

Re: defragmentation in FreeBSD 4.11

2005-07-28 Thread Bob Johnson
Message: 6 Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 11:20:31 +0300 From: Victor Semionov [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: defragmentation in FreeBSD 4.11 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 This is one of the things I find really hard

Re: defragmentation in FreeBSD 4.11

2005-07-28 Thread Freminlins
On 7/28/05, Bob Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why is it unnecessary to defragment UFS? In normal use, files never become fragmented enough to affect performance. In a (loose) sense, files are intentionally fragmented in a controlled way so that fragmentation doesn't cause problems.

Re: defragmentation in FreeBSD 4.11

2005-07-28 Thread Freminlins
Gayn Winters wrote: What I get from reading this article is that if the use of the file system is to store lots of small files, then use a small block size. Am I missing something? No and yes! There is a minimum block and fragment size. In this case there were not enough contiguous

Re: defragmentation in FreeBSD 4.11

2005-07-28 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Bob Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Message: 6 Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 11:20:31 +0300 From: Victor Semionov [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: defragmentation in FreeBSD 4.11 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251

Re: defragmentation in FreeBSD 4.11

2005-07-28 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Freminlins [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Gayn Winters wrote: What I get from reading this article is that if the use of the file system is to store lots of small files, then use a small block size. Am I missing something? No and yes! There is a minimum block and fragment size. In this

Re: defragmentation in FreeBSD 4.11

2005-07-28 Thread Bob Johnson
On Thursday 28 July 2005 03:07 pm, Lowell Gilbert wrote: Bob Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: Victor Semionov [EMAIL PROTECTED] [...] Why is it unnecessary to defragment UFS? In normal use, files never become fragmented enough to affect performance. In a (loose) sense, files

defragmentation in FreeBSD 4.11

2005-07-27 Thread demigor
Hello, How one could defragment a partition on FreeBSD ? Which tools are available for this ? Thanks. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL

Re: defragmentation in FreeBSD 4.11

2005-07-27 Thread Konrad Heuer
On Wed, 27 Jul 2005, demigor wrote: How one could defragment a partition on FreeBSD ? Which tools are available for this ? Why should you want to do this? There's no harmful fragmentation in the UFS of FreeBSD unless you exceed the max capacity of 100% which is 92% when looking closer but

RE: defragmentation in FreeBSD 4.11

2005-07-27 Thread Norbert Koch
How one could defragment a partition on FreeBSD ? Which tools are available for this ? None as I know. Usually there is no reason to defragment a ufs partition. Norbert ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list

Re: defragmentation in FreeBSD 4.11

2005-07-27 Thread demigor
How one could defragment a partition on FreeBSD ? Which tools are available for this ? Why should you want to do this? There's no harmful fragmentation in the UFS of FreeBSD unless you exceed the max capacity of 100% which is 92% when looking closer but reported as 100% by df.

Re: defragmentation in FreeBSD 4.11

2005-07-27 Thread Dmitry Mityugov
On 7/27/05, demigor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How one could defragment a partition on FreeBSD ? Which tools are available for this ? Why should you want to do this? There's no harmful fragmentation in the UFS of FreeBSD unless you exceed the max capacity of 100% which is 92% when

RE: defragmentation in FreeBSD 4.11

2005-07-27 Thread Mike Jeays
On Wed, 2005-07-27 at 07:54, Norbert Koch wrote: How one could defragment a partition on FreeBSD ? Which tools are available for this ? None as I know. Usually there is no reason to defragment a ufs partition. Norbert ___