Re: help with ln "linking" Please! [attn manpage authors!]

2002-10-10 Thread Cliff Sarginson
Mmmm..hasn't this discussion on symbolic links gone on just a bit too long. I suggest someone who is disatisfied with the description of them send in a PR, as for their representation in ls listings then that is in line with UNIX systems in general. Their is no reason why people cannot write a wra

Re: help with ln "linking" Please! [attn manpage authors!]

2002-10-10 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2002-10-09 22:09, Peter Leftwich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 8 Oct 2002, Gary W. Swearingen wrote: > > Confusion comes about mostly because the "ls" command shows an arrow > > pointing from the target (AKA destination) to the source, backwards from > > what most people would expect when thi

Re: help with ln "linking" Please! [attn manpage authors!]

2002-10-09 Thread Peter Leftwich
On 8 Oct 2002, Gary W. Swearingen wrote: > PL> The manpage is super unclear about sourcefile and targetfile, I have > PL> said this for years. Think of this paragraph: [snip] > PL> ... as this instead `ln -s actualfile linkfile` > That's not the best way to think of it, since "actualfile" need no

Re: help with ln "linking" Please! [attn manpage authors!]

2002-10-09 Thread Oliver Fromme
Gary W. Swearingen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Oliver Fromme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Gary W. Swearingen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > ln [-fhinsv] linked_filename [link_filename] > > > ln [-fhinsv] linked_filename ... dir_filename > > > link existing_filename alternate_filename

Re: help with ln "linking" Please! [attn manpage authors!]

2002-10-09 Thread Gary W. Swearingen
Adam Weinberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> (10.09.2002 @ 0209 PST): Oliver Fromme said, in 1.2K: << > > Gary W. Swearingen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > ln [-fhinsv] linked_filename [link_filename] > > > ln [-fhinsv] linked_filename ... dir_filename > > > link existing_filename altern

Re: help with ln "linking" Please! [attn manpage authors!]

2002-10-09 Thread Gary W. Swearingen
Oliver Fromme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Gary W. Swearingen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > ln [-fhinsv] linked_filename [link_filename] > > ln [-fhinsv] linked_filename ... dir_filename > > link existing_filename alternate_filename > > > > This is cleaner, but I think "filename" should b

Re: help with ln "linking" Please! [attn manpage authors!]

2002-10-09 Thread Adam Weinberger
>> (10.09.2002 @ 0209 PST): Oliver Fromme said, in 1.2K: << > Gary W. Swearingen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > ln [-fhinsv] linked_filename [link_filename] > > ln [-fhinsv] linked_filename ... dir_filename > > link existing_filename alternate_filename "linked" should be avoided. this is the e

Re: help with ln "linking" Please! [attn manpage authors!]

2002-10-09 Thread Oliver Fromme
Gary W. Swearingen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ln [-fhinsv] linked_filename [link_filename] > ln [-fhinsv] linked_filename ... dir_filename > link existing_filename alternate_filename > > This is cleaner, but I think "filename" should be standard in filenames. But it is not a filename. >

Re: help with ln "linking" Please! [attn manpage authors!]

2002-10-09 Thread Gary W. Swearingen
Giorgos Keramidas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > FWIW, the source doesn't have to be a file at all, in the > > case of symbolic links. I think the correct term is "link > > target" in that case -- that's how it is called in the > > standards (POSIX, SUSvX etc.). It looks like the manual has go

Re: help with ln "linking" Please! [attn manpage authors!]

2002-10-08 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2002-10-09 00:14, Oliver Fromme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Gary W. Swearingen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > How about this: ln [-fhinsv] source_filename [link_filename] > > FWIW, the source doesn't have to be a file at all, in the > case of symbolic links. I think the correct term

Re: help with ln "linking" Please! [attn manpage authors!]

2002-10-08 Thread Adam Weinberger
>> (10.08.2002 @ 1514 PST): Oliver Fromme said, in 1.2K: << >ln [-fhinv] existing_filename [another_filename] >ln -s [-fhinv] symlink_target [symlink_name] > > That would be completely clear, IMO. Although maybe a bit > too verbose. too verbose? i disagree. > (OK, in the case of symlin

Re: help with ln "linking" Please! [attn manpage authors!]

2002-10-08 Thread Oliver Fromme
Gary W. Swearingen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > How about this: ln [-fhinsv] source_filename [link_filename] FWIW, the source doesn't have to be a file at all, in the case of symbolic links. I think the correct term is "link target" in that case -- that's how it is called in the standards

Re: help with ln "linking" Please! [attn manpage authors!]

2002-10-08 Thread Adam Weinberger
>> (10.08.2002 @ 1151 PST): Gary W. Swearingen said, in 1.4K: << > How about this: ln [-fhinsv] source_filename [link_filename] > > I just TRY to remember them as being bassackwards from the more natural > order of "ls": link -> source i still stand by my method: the file you want the command

Re: help with ln "linking" Please! [attn manpage authors!]

2002-10-08 Thread Gary W. Swearingen
Peter Leftwich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The manpage is super unclear about sourcefile and targetfile, I have said > this for years. Think of this paragraph: > > SYNOPSIS > ln [-fhinsv] source_file [target_file] ... > ... as this instead `ln -s actualfile linkfile` That's not the best

Re: help with ln "linking" Please! [attn manpage authors!]

2002-10-07 Thread Adam Weinberger
>> (10.07.2002 @ 2216 PST): Peter Leftwich said, in 1.5K: << > On Mon, 7 Oct 2002, SweeTLeaF wrote: > > I am in the /usr/root dir > > ln -s desktop /root/Desktop/tmp > > You should be using `ln -s /root/Desktop/tmp /usr/root/desktop` no, he shouldn't be. when he looks at /root/Desktop/tmp he

Re: help with ln "linking" Please! [attn manpage authors!]

2002-10-07 Thread Peter Leftwich
On Mon, 7 Oct 2002, SweeTLeaF wrote: > I am in the /usr/root dir > ln -s desktop /root/Desktop/tmp You should be using `ln -s /root/Desktop/tmp /usr/root/desktop` The manpage is super unclear about sourcefile and targetfile, I have said this for years. Think of this paragraph: SYNOPSIS