Re: Dual Opterons don't see all memory

2007-09-26 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi, Paul Schmehl wrote: --On September 26, 2007 9:06:57 PM -0700 Eric Osterweil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sep 26, 2007, at 8:57 PM, Erich Dollansky wrote: Eric Osterweil wrote: make use of it's 6GB of memory, and FreeBSD can only see about 4GB of it. Can anyone help me figure out how

Re: Dual Opterons don't see all memory

2007-09-26 Thread Matthew Seaman
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Erich Dollansky wrote: Paul Schmehl wrote: --On September 26, 2007 9:06:57 PM -0700 Eric Osterweil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sep 26, 2007, at 8:57 PM, Erich Dollansky wrote: Eric Osterweil wrote: make use of it's 6GB of memory

Re: Dual Opterons don't see all memory

2007-09-26 Thread Eric Osterweil
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sep 26, 2007, at 10:35 PM, Matthew Seaman wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Erich Dollansky wrote: Paul Schmehl wrote: --On September 26, 2007 9:06:57 PM -0700 Eric Osterweil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sep 26, 2007,

Re: g_vfs write error = 28, bad memory?

2007-09-03 Thread Ian Smith
unless you have actual swap to back everything, whereas with malloc backing it reserves in memory. This means that it is easy to overcommit memory and the system will probably panic when it suddenly finds no free memory for the md (as in the original email). Ah. Swap backing with no swap

Re: g_vfs write error = 28, bad memory?

2007-09-03 Thread Kris Kennaway
reserve) doesn't work unless you have actual swap to back everything, whereas with malloc backing it reserves in memory. This means that it is easy to overcommit memory and the system will probably panic when it suddenly finds no free memory for the md (as in the original email). Ah. Swap

Re: g_vfs write error = 28, bad memory?

2007-09-03 Thread Ian Smith
On Mon, 3 Sep 2007, Kris Kennaway wrote: Ian Smith wrote: [..] But is running out of memory with swap-backed md (with no swap) likely to be any prettier than the panics from (unreserved) malloc backing? Probably not. No worse though. Couldn't be :) By 'ideally' I guess you mean

Re: g_vfs write error = 28, bad memory?

2007-09-02 Thread Kris Kennaway
Ian Smith wrote: On Sat, 01 Sep 2007 19:34:41 +0200 Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Per olof Ljungmark wrote: Kris Kennaway wrote: Per olof Ljungmark wrote: Kris Kennaway wrote: Per olof Ljungmark wrote: I use a memory file system for some tmp files and last night I saw

g_vfs write error = 28, bad memory?

2007-09-01 Thread Per olof Ljungmark
I use a memory file system for some tmp files and last night I saw this, followed by a reboot. Bad memory? 6-STABLE from April.. foo-bar kernel: g_vfs_done():md0[WRITE(offset=259244032, length=131072)]error = 28 foo-bar kernel: g_vfs_done():md0[WRITE(offset=259375104, length=131072)]error

Re: g_vfs write error = 28, bad memory?

2007-09-01 Thread Wojciech Puchar
I use a memory file system for some tmp files and last night I saw this, followed by a reboot. Bad memory? 6-STABLE from April.. foo-bar kernel: g_vfs_done():md0[WRITE(offset=259244032, length=131072)]error = 28 foo-bar kernel: g_vfs_done():md0[WRITE(offset=259375104, length=131072)]error

Re: g_vfs write error = 28, bad memory?

2007-09-01 Thread Kris Kennaway
Per olof Ljungmark wrote: I use a memory file system for some tmp files and last night I saw this, followed by a reboot. Bad memory? 6-STABLE from April.. foo-bar kernel: g_vfs_done():md0[WRITE(offset=259244032, length=131072)]error = 28 foo-bar kernel: g_vfs_done():md0[WRITE(offset=259375104

Re: g_vfs write error = 28, bad memory?

2007-09-01 Thread Per olof Ljungmark
Kris Kennaway wrote: Per olof Ljungmark wrote: I use a memory file system for some tmp files and last night I saw this, followed by a reboot. Bad memory? 6-STABLE from April.. foo-bar kernel: g_vfs_done():md0[WRITE(offset=259244032, length=131072)]error = 28 foo-bar kernel: g_vfs_done():md0

Re: g_vfs write error = 28, bad memory?

2007-09-01 Thread Kris Kennaway
Per olof Ljungmark wrote: Kris Kennaway wrote: Per olof Ljungmark wrote: I use a memory file system for some tmp files and last night I saw this, followed by a reboot. Bad memory? 6-STABLE from April.. foo-bar kernel: g_vfs_done():md0[WRITE(offset=259244032, length=131072)]error = 28 foo

Re: g_vfs write error = 28, bad memory?

2007-09-01 Thread Per olof Ljungmark
Kris Kennaway wrote: Per olof Ljungmark wrote: Kris Kennaway wrote: Per olof Ljungmark wrote: I use a memory file system for some tmp files and last night I saw this, followed by a reboot. Bad memory? 6-STABLE from April.. foo-bar kernel: g_vfs_done():md0[WRITE(offset=259244032, length

Re: g_vfs write error = 28, bad memory?

2007-09-01 Thread Kris Kennaway
Per olof Ljungmark wrote: Kris Kennaway wrote: Per olof Ljungmark wrote: Kris Kennaway wrote: Per olof Ljungmark wrote: I use a memory file system for some tmp files and last night I saw this, followed by a reboot. Bad memory? 6-STABLE from April.. foo-bar kernel: g_vfs_done():md0[WRITE

Re: g_vfs write error = 28, bad memory?

2007-09-01 Thread Ian Smith
On Sat, 01 Sep 2007 19:34:41 +0200 Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Per olof Ljungmark wrote: Kris Kennaway wrote: Per olof Ljungmark wrote: Kris Kennaway wrote: Per olof Ljungmark wrote: I use a memory file system for some tmp files and last night I saw this, followed

Re: fsck of large volume with small memory

2007-08-19 Thread Wojciech Puchar
Hi all Is there any possibillity to fsck a 1.2 TB 40% filled volume with a machine that has not that much memory, in this case only 1.5 GB. The fsck gives me a friendly # fsck /dev/da1 ** /dev/da1 ** Last Mounted on /fileserver ** Phase 1 - Check Blocks and Sizes fsck_ufs: cannot alloc

Re: fsck of large volume with small memory

2007-08-19 Thread Wojciech Puchar
Hi all Is there any possibillity to fsck a 1.2 TB 40% filled volume with a --- Just out of curiosity: Is this an embedded NAS/SAN platform with RAM limitations? i386 32-bit has adres space limit per one process, no matter how much RAM/swap there is

Re: How to know the size of RAM memory

2007-08-05 Thread Wojciech Puchar
dmesg |grep memory On Sun, 5 Aug 2007, Prakash Poudyal wrote: Hello everybody, Can any body tell how to see the size of RAM memory in freebsd. ? Thank you Sincerely Prakash ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org

Re: How to know the size of RAM memory

2007-08-05 Thread Shantanoo Mahajan
On 05-Aug-07, at 8:53 AM, Prakash Poudyal wrote: Hello everybody, Can any body tell how to see the size of RAM memory in freebsd. ? you may try: sysctl -a | grep -i mem shanatnoo ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http

RE: How to know the size of RAM memory

2007-08-05 Thread fbsd2
I tried what people said to do and I get different values that do not match what the bios say. Why is there so large a difference? How can this be explained??? # /root sysctl -a | grep -i memory Virtual Memory: (Total: 2871K, Active 91444K) Real Memory:(Total: 37324K Active

Re: How to know the size of RAM memory

2007-08-05 Thread Manolis Kiagias
fbsd2 wrote: I tried what people said to do and I get different values that do not match what the bios say. Why is there so large a difference? How can this be explained??? # /root sysctl -a | grep -i memory Virtual Memory: (Total: 2871K, Active 91444K) Real Memory

Re: How to know the size of RAM memory

2007-08-05 Thread Wojciech Puchar
# /root dmesg | grep -i memory real memory = 67108864 (64 MB) avail memory = 56094720 (53 MB) this is true - 64MB ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail

RE: How to know the size of RAM memory

2007-08-05 Thread fbsd2
of RAM memory # /root dmesg | grep -i memory real memory = 67108864 (64 MB) avail memory = 56094720 (53 MB) this is true - 64MB ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe

Re: How to know the size of RAM memory

2007-08-05 Thread Philip M. Gollucci
fbsd2 wrote: What is the meaning of the 67108864 number? Its 64MB in bytes. [08:42 PM](ttyp0)[EMAIL PROTECTED] j0 h2 c502 /usr/home/pgollucci bc 64*1024 65536 .*1024 67108864 -- Philip M. Gollucci ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

How to know the size of RAM memory

2007-08-04 Thread Prakash Poudyal
Hello everybody, Can any body tell how to see the size of RAM memory in freebsd. ? Thank you Sincerely Prakash ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail

Re: How to know the size of RAM memory

2007-08-04 Thread Modulok
On 8/4/07, Prakash Poudyal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello everybody, Can any body tell how to see the size of RAM memory in freebsd. ? Thank you Sincerely Prakash It should be displayed early in the dmesg(8) output shown during the boot process. You may review this by executing the dmesg

Re: How to know the size of RAM memory

2007-08-04 Thread NetOpsCenter
Prakash Poudyal wrote: Hello everybody, Can any body tell how to see the size of RAM memory in freebsd. ? Thank you Sincerely Prakash ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions

Re: trouble with php4, apache, egroupware, memory allocation

2007-07-26 Thread Norberto Meijome
On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 22:10:24 -0700 (PDT) Mark Busby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm running apache-1.3.37_4, php4-4.4.7, and eGroupWare-1.2.106_1. Apache error file is returning the following error when trying to access the calendar. PHP Fatal error: Allowed memory size of 16777216 bytes

trouble with php4, apache, egroupware, memory allocation

2007-07-25 Thread Mark Busby
I'm running apache-1.3.37_4, php4-4.4.7, and eGroupWare-1.2.106_1. Apache error file is returning the following error when trying to access the calendar. PHP Fatal error: Allowed memory size of 16777216 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 23040 bytes) I've searched but have not found

Problem booting from memory-stick with ASUS A7V-133

2007-07-24 Thread ilsa . gold
Hi all, hope this is the right list. I have a problem with booting from a 128MB USB-memory-stick with the ASUS A7V-133 motherboard. I downloaded the boot-floppy-imageboot.flp (version 6.2) from the FreeBSD-FTP-server and dd-ed it to a memory stick. Booting from this stick works fine

Re: Problem booting from memory-stick with ASUS A7V-133

2007-07-24 Thread Steve Bertrand
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, hope this is the right list. I have a problem with booting from a 128MB USB-memory-stick with the ASUS A7V-133 motherboard. I downloaded the boot-floppy-imageboot.flp (version 6.2) from the FreeBSD-FTP-server and dd-ed it to a memory stick. Booting

Re: Problem booting from memory-stick with ASUS A7V-133

2007-07-24 Thread ilsa . gold
Hi Steve, I have a problem with booting from a 128MB USB-memory-stick with the ASUS A7V-133 motherboard. I downloaded the boot-floppy-imageboot.flp (version 6.2) from the FreeBSD-FTP-server and dd-ed it to a memory stick. Booting from this stick works fine with every other computer I

Out of memory error

2007-07-09 Thread Scott Mayo
I am running imapsync and keep getting the error: Out of memory during large request for 67112960 bytes, total sbrk() is 495640576 bytes at /usr/local/bin/imapsync line 1050. When trying to copy a mailbox that has some large attachements. I found on the internet that I needed to set

Re: Out of memory error

2007-07-09 Thread Scott Mayo
Scott Mayo wrote: I am running imapsync and keep getting the error: Out of memory during large request for 67112960 bytes, total sbrk() is 495640576 bytes at /usr/local/bin/imapsync line 1050. When trying to copy a mailbox that has some large attachements. I found on the internet that I

increasing the size of a memory disk

2007-06-28 Thread Dave
Hello, I've got a memory disk that i made and now i have to increase it's size so i can add about 3 megabytes more information on to it. I'd rather not have to remake it. Is there a way i can use something to increase it's size without destroying/remaking it? Thanks. Dave

Re: How to see the Ram memory in freebsd 6.2

2007-06-18 Thread Chad Perrin
On Mon, Jun 18, 2007 at 01:21:00AM +0300, Manolis Kiagias wrote: Chad Perrin wrote: What if you just want to see how much is installed, what speed it is, et cetera? It isn't clear to me that Prakash was necessarily looking for RAM usage. True, I made a few assumptions here, based

Re: How to see the Ram memory in freebsd 6.2

2007-06-18 Thread sac
On 6/17/07, Prakash Poudyal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello All, Can any body tell me how to see the RAM memory in freebsd. for your reference I had already used dmesg and top command and now I want to know specifec command to see the Ram memory only. $ sysctl hw.physmem | awk '{ print $2

How to see the Ram memory in freebsd 6.2

2007-06-17 Thread Prakash Poudyal
Hello All, Can any body tell me how to see the RAM memory in freebsd. for your reference I had already used dmesg and top command and now I want to know specifec command to see the Ram memory only. Thank you prakash ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org

Re: How to see the Ram memory in freebsd 6.2

2007-06-17 Thread Manolis Kiagias
Prakash Poudyal wrote: Hello All, Can any body tell me how to see the RAM memory in freebsd. for your reference I had already used dmesg and top command and now I want to know specifec command to see the Ram memory only. Thank you prakash

RE: How to see the Ram memory in freebsd 6.2

2007-06-17 Thread James Stanley
Hello Prakash, vmstat is the command you are looking for. Try 'man vmstat' for more information. Hope this helps, James Stanley -- Get a free email address with REAL anti-spam protection. http://www.bluebottle.com

Re: How to see the Ram memory in freebsd 6.2

2007-06-17 Thread RW
On Sun, 17 Jun 2007 15:04:53 +0300 Manolis Kiagias [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Prakash Poudyal wrote: Hello All, Can any body tell me how to see the RAM memory in freebsd. You are looking for the equivalent of the Linux free command. This does not exits in FreeBSD per se, you can however

Re: How to see the Ram memory in freebsd 6.2

2007-06-17 Thread Chad Perrin
On Sun, Jun 17, 2007 at 03:04:53PM +0300, Manolis Kiagias wrote: Prakash Poudyal wrote: Hello All, Can any body tell me how to see the RAM memory in freebsd. for your reference I had already used dmesg and top command and now I want to know specifec command to see the Ram memory only

Re: How to see the Ram memory in freebsd 6.2

2007-06-17 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 17/06/07, Prakash Poudyal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello All, Can any body tell me how to see the RAM memory in freebsd. for your reference I had already used dmesg and top command and now I want to know specifec command to see the Ram memory only. sysctl hw.physmem perhaps

Re: How to see the Ram memory in freebsd 6.2

2007-06-17 Thread Manolis Kiagias
Chad Perrin wrote: On Sun, Jun 17, 2007 at 03:04:53PM +0300, Manolis Kiagias wrote: Prakash Poudyal wrote: Hello All, Can any body tell me how to see the RAM memory in freebsd. for your reference I had already used dmesg and top command and now I want to know specifec command

Memory mannagment

2007-06-14 Thread cadastrosonline cadastrosonline
First of all, Each process has its own private address space. The address space is initially divided into three logical segments: text, data, and stack. But if the address is just something like 343556 then how does it really work? The memory is divided into segments is that what it means

Re: Memory mannagment

2007-06-14 Thread Garrett Cooper
cadastrosonline cadastrosonline wrote: First of all, Each process has its own private address space. The address space is initially divided into three logical segments: text, data, and stack. But if the address is just something like 343556 then how does it really work? The memory

Re: Memory mannagment

2007-06-14 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
does it really work? The memory is divided into segments is that what it means? An answer to this is a very long introductory course in UNIX systems internals. In general, you can find a lot of detail about memory management and allocation in books like ``The Design and Implementation

Re: Memory mannagment

2007-06-14 Thread Tom Evans
, and stack. But if the address is just something like 343556 then how does it really work? The memory is divided into segments is that what it means? An answer to this is a very long introductory course in UNIX systems internals. In general, you can find a lot of detail about memory

Re: Memory mannagment

2007-06-14 Thread Derek Ragona
and variables data is data for the program, this defines variable used in a program But if the address is just something like 343556 then how does it really work? The memory is divided into segments is that what it means? Segments are kept separated by the CPU, and some treatment of segments can

fsck of large volume with small memory

2007-06-13 Thread Andreas Kuehl
Hi all Is there any possibillity to fsck a 1.2 TB 40% filled volume with a machine that has not that much memory, in this case only 1.5 GB. The fsck gives me a friendly # fsck /dev/da1 ** /dev/da1 ** Last Mounted on /fileserver ** Phase 1 - Check Blocks and Sizes fsck_ufs: cannot alloc

Re: fsck of large volume with small memory

2007-06-13 Thread Pieter de Goeje
On Thursday 14 June 2007, Andreas Kuehl wrote: Hi all Is there any possibillity to fsck a 1.2 TB 40% filled volume with a machine that has not that much memory, in this case only 1.5 GB. The fsck gives me a friendly # fsck /dev/da1 ** /dev/da1 ** Last Mounted on /fileserver ** Phase 1

Force Memory Dump

2007-06-04 Thread Sean Murphy
How do you force a memory dump from a specific PID? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Force Memory Dump

2007-06-04 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Jun 04), Sean Murphy said: How do you force a memory dump from a specific PID? /usr/bin/gcore -- Dan Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman

Re: Force Memory Dump

2007-06-04 Thread Sean Murphy
: In the last episode (Jun 04), Sean Murphy said: How do you force a memory dump from a specific PID? /usr/bin/gcore ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any

Re: Force Memory Dump

2007-06-04 Thread Dan Nelson
wheel 512 Apr 3 17:03 .. Dan Nelson wrote: In the last episode (Jun 04), Sean Murphy said: How do you force a memory dump from a specific PID? /usr/bin/gcore gcore is one of the few programs left that still requires procfs. You'll need to mount it: mount -t procfs /proc /proc

Re: Force Memory Dump

2007-06-04 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Don't top-post, please. Sean Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I get this error when trying gcore what am I doing wrong? # gcore 581 gcore: /proc/581/file: No such file or directory # cd /proc # ls -la total 4 dr-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 May 8 2005 .

Re: Force Memory Dump

2007-06-04 Thread Sean Murphy
Lowell Gilbert wrote: Don't top-post, please. Sean Murphy [1][EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I get this error when trying gcore what am I doing wrong? # gcore 581 gcore: /proc/581/file: No such file or directory # cd /proc # ls -la total 4 dr-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512

Re: Force Memory Dump

2007-06-04 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Mon, Jun 04, 2007 at 05:08:02PM -0700, Sean Murphy wrote: Lowell Gilbert wrote: Don't top-post, please. Sean Murphy [1][EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I get this error when trying gcore what am I doing wrong? # gcore 581 gcore: /proc/581/file: No such file or directory

Re: Out of memory during request

2007-05-25 Thread web
OK Fetch completed. Out of memory during request for 80 bytes, total sbrk() is 536813568 bytes! I'm running imapsync on the target system, which is FreeBSD 6.2-STABLE with 1 GB RAM. I'm wondering if I could adjust some resource settings to let the imapsync job finish? To unsubscribe, send any mail

Out of memory during request

2007-05-24 Thread Janos Dohanics
I'm using imapsync to transfer maildirs to a new server. One of the mailboxes is about 4.7 GB. While into the syncing to about 3 GB, imapsync quits with this message: END while processing LITERAL Read: * 5330 FETCH (UID 5337 BODY[] ) 12835 OK Fetch completed. Out of memory during request for 80

Re: Out of memory during request

2007-05-24 Thread Bill Moran
[] ) 12835 OK Fetch completed. Out of memory during request for 80 bytes, total sbrk() is 536813568 bytes! I'm running imapsync on the target system, which is FreeBSD 6.2-STABLE with 1 GB RAM. I'm wondering if I could adjust some resource settings to let the imapsync job finish? Check

Re: Out of memory during request

2007-05-24 Thread Per olof Ljungmark
of memory during request for 80 bytes, total sbrk() is 536813568 bytes! I'm running imapsync on the target system, which is FreeBSD 6.2-STABLE with 1 GB RAM. I'm wondering if I could adjust some resource settings to let the imapsync job finish? Search for my name and imapsync and you'll have the answer

Re: Out of memory during request

2007-05-24 Thread Tom Marchand
. One of the mailboxes is about 4.7 GB. While into the syncing to about 3 GB, imapsync quits with this message: END while processing LITERAL Read: * 5330 FETCH (UID 5337 BODY[] ) 12835 OK Fetch completed. Out of memory during request for 80 bytes, total sbrk() is 536813568 bytes

Re: Out of memory during request

2007-05-24 Thread Per olof Ljungmark
of memory during request for 80 bytes, total sbrk() is 536813568 bytes! I'm running imapsync on the target system, which is FreeBSD 6.2-STABLE with 1 GB RAM. I'm wondering if I could adjust some resource settings to let the imapsync job finish? To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I forgot

RE: Wikipedia's perfection (was Re: Discussion of the relativeadvantages/disadvantages of PAE (was Re: Memory 3.5GB not used?))

2007-04-28 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
of the relativeadvantages/disadvantages of PAE (was Re: Memory 3.5GB not used?)) On 27/04/07, Bart Silverstrim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We don't devote time and resources into being renaissance people. Human intelligence is hardly limited in that regard. While I do not subscribe to the Colin Wilson

Re: Wikipedia's perfection (was Re: Discussion of the relativeadvantages/disadvantages of PAE (was Re: Memory 3.5GB not used?))

2007-04-28 Thread Thomas Dickey
On Sat, Apr 28, 2007 at 02:10:16AM -0700, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: The true value of Wikipedia is that it can deal with controversial subjects. ... on the other hand, for some instances it doesn't _deal_ with controversial subjects, but only reflects the most common opinion. Currently(*) the

Re: Wikipedia's perfection (was Re: Discussion of the relative advantages/disadvantages of PAE (was Re: Memory 3.5GB not used?))

2007-04-27 Thread Bart Silverstrim
On Wed, Apr 25, 2007 at 03:59:43PM +0200, Svein Halvor Halvorsen wrote: Bill Moran wrote: A friend of mine going for his Dr. at CMU (Patrick Wagstrom: GNOME guy) describes an exercise where a professor intentionally injected false information into Wikipedia, then gave his students a

Re: Wikipedia's perfection (was Re: Discussion of the relative advantages/disadvantages of PAE (was Re: Memory 3.5GB not used?))

2007-04-27 Thread Bart Silverstrim
On Apr 25, 2007, at 3:51 PM, Paul Schmehl wrote: --On Wednesday, April 25, 2007 15:29:04 -0400 Thomas Dickey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Apr 25, 2007 at 01:15:03PM -0600, Chad Perrin wrote: No kidding. That professor should have his Wikipedia account banned, and the head of his

Re: Wikipedia's perfection (was Re: Discussion of the relative advantages/disadvantages of PAE (was Re: Memory 3.5GB not used?))

2007-04-27 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 27/04/07, Bart Silverstrim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We don't devote time and resources into being renaissance people. Human intelligence is hardly limited in that regard. While I do not subscribe to the Colin Wilson theory, the vast majority of people contain so little information it is

Re: Memory 3.5GB not used?

2007-04-26 Thread Garrett Cooper
Ivan Voras wrote: Bill Moran wrote: Does this test demonstrate usage of memory over 4G? It's my understanding that PAE starts to suffer when it has to look at the memory over 4G (which is the problem it's intended to solve) If your entire test fits in under 4G, you're not seeing

Re: Wikipedia's perfection (was Re: Discussion of the relative advantages/disadvantages of PAE (was Re: Memory 3.5GB not used?))

2007-04-26 Thread Lee Capps
: Wikipedia's perfection (was Re: Discussion of the relative advantages/disadvantages of PAE (was Re: Memory 3.5GB not used?)) Bill Moran wrote: A friend of mine going for his Dr. at CMU (Patrick Wagstrom: GNOME guy) describes an exercise where a professor intentionally injected false

Re: Wikipedia's perfection (was Re: Discussion of the relative advantages/disadvantages of PAE (was Re: Memory 3.5GB not used?))

2007-04-26 Thread Bill Moran
Dickey; Bill Moran; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Wikipedia's perfection (was Re: Discussion of the relative advantages/disadvantages of PAE (was Re: Memory 3.5GB not used?)) Bill Moran wrote: A friend of mine going for his Dr. at CMU (Patrick Wagstrom: GNOME guy

Re: Wikipedia's perfection (was Re: Discussion of the relative advantages/disadvantages of PAE (was Re: Memory 3.5GB not used?))

2007-04-26 Thread Chad Perrin
On Thu, Apr 26, 2007 at 09:17:32AM -0400, Bill Moran wrote: Perhaps this was all just a devious plan by me to make you all look like fools by watching your argue about the importance of checking sources while none of you checked your sources ... Muhahaha ... In any event, it's been a

Re: Wikipedia's perfection (was Re: Discussion of the relative advantages/disadvantages of PAE (was Re: Memory 3.5GB not used?))

2007-04-26 Thread Bill Moran
In response to Chad Perrin [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Thu, Apr 26, 2007 at 09:17:32AM -0400, Bill Moran wrote: Perhaps this was all just a devious plan by me to make you all look like fools by watching your argue about the importance of checking sources while none of you checked your sources

Re: Wikipedia's perfection (was Re: Discussion of the relative advantages/disadvantages of PAE (was Re: Memory 3.5GB not used?))

2007-04-26 Thread Chad Perrin
On Thu, Apr 26, 2007 at 01:48:46PM -0400, Bill Moran wrote: In response to Chad Perrin [EMAIL PROTECTED]: If you had provided the guy's Wikipedia account, we'd be able to check *your* sources -- wouldn't we? As long as you don't tell us the necessary information for checking up on it,

Re: Memory 3.5GB not used?

2007-04-25 Thread Ivan Voras
Bill Moran wrote: Does this test demonstrate usage of memory over 4G? It's my understanding that PAE starts to suffer when it has to look at the memory over 4G (which is the problem it's intended to solve) If your entire test fits in under 4G, you're not seeing the worst

Re: Memory 3.5GB not used?

2007-04-25 Thread Albert Shih
# To make a PAE kernel, the next option is needed options PAE # Physical Address Extensions Kernel # Compile acpi in statically since the module isn't built properly. Most # machines which support large amounts of memory require acpi. device acpi # Don't build

Re: Memory 3.5GB not used?

2007-04-25 Thread RW
On Tue, 24 Apr 2007 10:56:09 -0700 Don O'Neil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just built a new server with an Athlon 64 x2, ... What if I want to install more than 4GB? This mobo supports up to 16 GB... Do I need to go to the AMD64 platform to get 4GB? AFAIK all the reasons for staying 32-bit

Discussion of the relative advantages/disadvantages of PAE (was Re: Memory 3.5GB not used?)

2007-04-25 Thread Bill Moran
In response to Ivan Voras [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Bill Moran wrote: Does this test demonstrate usage of memory over 4G? It's my understanding that PAE starts to suffer when it has to look at the memory over 4G (which is the problem it's intended to solve) If your entire test

Re: Discussion of the relative advantages/disadvantages of PAE (was Re: Memory 3.5GB not used?)

2007-04-25 Thread Thomas Dickey
On Wed, Apr 25, 2007 at 08:31:53AM -0400, Bill Moran wrote: (of course, everyone knows that Wikipedia is the ultimate source of information and is infallible, right?) hardly. I'd expect that most intelligent readers would have encountered at least one wikipedia article which is inaccurate.

Re: Memory 3.5GB not used?

2007-04-25 Thread Bill Moran
In response to RW [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Tue, 24 Apr 2007 10:56:09 -0700 Don O'Neil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just built a new server with an Athlon 64 x2, ... What if I want to install more than 4GB? This mobo supports up to 16 GB... Do I need to go to the AMD64 platform to get

Wikipedia's perfection (was Re: Discussion of the relative advantages/disadvantages of PAE (was Re: Memory 3.5GB not used?))

2007-04-25 Thread Bill Moran
In response to Thomas Dickey [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Wed, Apr 25, 2007 at 08:31:53AM -0400, Bill Moran wrote: (of course, everyone knows that Wikipedia is the ultimate source of information and is infallible, right?) hardly. I'd expect that most intelligent readers would have encountered

Re: Wikipedia's perfection (was Re: Discussion of the relative advantages/disadvantages of PAE (was Re: Memory 3.5GB not used?))

2007-04-25 Thread Lee Capps
On Apr 25, 2007, at 8:55 AM, Bill Moran wrote: A friend of mine going for his Dr. at CMU (Patrick Wagstrom: GNOME guy) describes an exercise where a professor intentionally injected false information into Wikipedia, then gave his students a research assignment that involved that

Re: Wikipedia's perfection (was Re: Discussion of the relative advantages/disadvantages of PAE (was Re: Memory 3.5GB not used?))

2007-04-25 Thread Svein Halvor Halvorsen
Bill Moran wrote: A friend of mine going for his Dr. at CMU (Patrick Wagstrom: GNOME guy) describes an exercise where a professor intentionally injected false information into Wikipedia, then gave his students a research assignment that involved that information. Apparently the number of

Re: Wikipedia's perfection (was Re: Discussion of the relative advantages/disadvantages of PAE (was Re: Memory 3.5GB not used?))

2007-04-25 Thread Chad Perrin
On Wed, Apr 25, 2007 at 03:59:43PM +0200, Svein Halvor Halvorsen wrote: Bill Moran wrote: A friend of mine going for his Dr. at CMU (Patrick Wagstrom: GNOME guy) describes an exercise where a professor intentionally injected false information into Wikipedia, then gave his students a research

Re: Wikipedia's perfection (was Re: Discussion of the relative advantages/disadvantages of PAE (was Re: Memory 3.5GB not used?))

2007-04-25 Thread Thomas Dickey
On Wed, Apr 25, 2007 at 01:15:03PM -0600, Chad Perrin wrote: No kidding. That professor should have his Wikipedia account banned, and the head of his department should be informed of his vandalism. I don't suppose you know the name of his Wikipedia account, or his legal name. . . . yawn.

Re: Wikipedia's perfection (was Re: Discussion of the relative advantages/disadvantages of PAE (was Re: Memory 3.5GB not used?))

2007-04-25 Thread Paul Schmehl
--On Wednesday, April 25, 2007 15:29:04 -0400 Thomas Dickey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Apr 25, 2007 at 01:15:03PM -0600, Chad Perrin wrote: No kidding. That professor should have his Wikipedia account banned, and the head of his department should be informed of his vandalism. I don't

Re: Wikipedia's perfection (was Re: Discussion of the relative advantages/disadvantages of PAE (was Re: Memory 3.5GB not used?))

2007-04-25 Thread Chad Perrin
On Wed, Apr 25, 2007 at 03:29:04PM -0400, Thomas Dickey wrote: On Wed, Apr 25, 2007 at 01:15:03PM -0600, Chad Perrin wrote: No kidding. That professor should have his Wikipedia account banned, and the head of his department should be informed of his vandalism. I don't suppose you know the

Re: Wikipedia's perfection (was Re: Discussion of the relative advantages/disadvantages of PAE (was Re: Memory 3.5GB not used?))

2007-04-25 Thread Thomas Dickey
On Wed, Apr 25, 2007 at 01:58:55PM -0600, Chad Perrin wrote: I definitely agree that's suboptimal. I'd expand that to include other sorts of pages, other than webpages, as well. It's pretty rare for this particular brand of intellectually lazy person to realize that about the printed page,

Re: Wikipedia's perfection (was Re: Discussion of the relative advantages/disadvantages of PAE (was Re: Memory 3.5GB not used?))

2007-04-25 Thread Thomas Sparrevohn
On Wednesday 25 April 2007 21:21:47 Thomas Dickey wrote: On Wed, Apr 25, 2007 at 01:58:55PM -0600, Chad Perrin wrote: I definitely agree that's suboptimal. I'd expand that to include other sorts of pages, other than webpages, as well. It's pretty rare for this particular brand of

RE: Wikipedia's perfection (was Re: Discussion of the relative advantages/disadvantages of PAE (was Re: Memory 3.5GB not used?))

2007-04-25 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
of the relative advantages/disadvantages of PAE (was Re: Memory 3.5GB not used?)) Bill Moran wrote: A friend of mine going for his Dr. at CMU (Patrick Wagstrom: GNOME guy) describes an exercise where a professor intentionally injected false information into Wikipedia, then gave his students

Memory 3.5GB not used?

2007-04-24 Thread Don O'Neil
I just built a new server with an Athlon 64 x2, 4GB Ram and a Gigabyte/Nvidia motherboard. When I boot the system up it says on the console that 532888K will be ignored. Of course it isn't put in any of the log files. Dmesg shows this: real memory = 3724476416 (3551 MB) avail memory

RE: Memory 3.5GB not used?

2007-04-24 Thread Ian Lord
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don O'Neil Sent: 24 avril 2007 13:56 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Memory 3.5GB not used? I just built a new server with an Athlon 64 x2, 4GB Ram and a Gigabyte/Nvidia motherboard. When I boot

Re: Memory 3.5GB not used?

2007-04-24 Thread Bill Moran
memory = 3724476416 (3551 MB) avail memory = 3649908736 (3480 MB) Any reason the extra 1/2 GB isn't showing up or usable? Is there something I need to specify in the kernel to get to the other 1/2 GB? What if I want to install more than 4GB? This mobo supports up to 16 GB... Do I need to go

Re: Memory 3.5GB not used?

2007-04-24 Thread Jonathan Horne
memory = 3724476416 (3551 MB) avail memory = 3649908736 (3480 MB) Any reason the extra 1/2 GB isn't showing up or usable? Is there something I need to specify in the kernel to get to the other 1/2 GB? What if I want to install more than 4GB? This mobo supports up to 16 GB... Do I need to go

Re: Memory 3.5GB not used?

2007-04-24 Thread Bill Moran
it isn't put in any of the log files. Dmesg shows this: real memory = 3724476416 (3551 MB) avail memory = 3649908736 (3480 MB) Any reason the extra 1/2 GB isn't showing up or usable? Is there something I need to specify in the kernel to get to the other 1/2 GB? What if I want

Re: Memory 3.5GB not used?

2007-04-24 Thread [LoN]Kamikaze
Don O'Neil wrote: Any reason the extra 1/2 GB isn't showing up or usable? Is there something I need to specify in the kernel to get to the other 1/2 GB? What if I want to install more than 4GB? This mobo supports up to 16 GB... Do I need to go to the AMD64 platform to get 4GB? You need a PAE

RE: Memory 3.5GB not used?

2007-04-24 Thread Don O'Neil
Message- From: Bill Moran [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 11:05 AM To: Don O'Neil Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Memory 3.5GB not used? In response to Don O'Neil [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I just built a new server with an Athlon 64 x2, 4GB Ram and a Gigabyte

Re: Memory 3.5GB not used?

2007-04-24 Thread Andy Greenwood
. -Original Message- From: Bill Moran [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 11:05 AM To: Don O'Neil Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Memory 3.5GB not used? In response to Don O'Neil [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I just built a new server with an Athlon 64 x2, 4GB Ram

RE: Memory 3.5GB not used?

2007-04-24 Thread Don O'Neil
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Memory 3.5GB not used? On 4/24/07, Don O'Neil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for all who pointed out the obvious PAE option... When I went to rebuild the kernel I got this message: +++ cc -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe

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