On Tue, Jan 25, 2005 at 11:41:56PM +0100, Gert Cuykens wrote:
ps who is the imake developer ?
Believe me i am going to mail every developer where perl comes in
between me and the application :P
Actually, I think you should work on sh first, it's a much bigger
security hazard than perl. If
In the last episode (Feb 04), Loren M. Lang said:
Actually, I think you should work on sh first, it's a much bigger
security hazard than perl. If you've ever written much sh, you'd
realize with it's much loser syntax, it's easy to get into trouble.
At least perl provides use strict and -Tw.
On Fri, Feb 04, 2005 at 10:13:45PM -0600, Dan Nelson wrote:
In the last episode (Feb 04), Loren M. Lang said:
Actually, I think you should work on sh first, it's a much bigger
security hazard than perl. If you've ever written much sh, you'd
realize with it's much loser syntax, it's easy to
Can all future replys on this subject please exclude me in the reply please :)
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* Gert Cuykens [EMAIL PROTECTED] [0137 23:37]:
No i dont know anything about c++ or perl, ok i know what a class is :P
For me is not realy about perl it self its about the way it get used
as a tool to help build things. For me freebsd is build as a base that
can handle everything designed for
On Tue, Jan 25, 2005 at 11:59:54PM +0100, Gert Cuykens said:
I am not a developer so i can not think for them i can only ask
questions. I would not even ask them if the application itself would
use it. Then i would accept it as part of a furniture.
PS if you buy a new television do you
That's not what you're saying. you're asking the people who build your
car not to use a wrench but their bare hands because you have something
against wrenches for some reason.
i have nothing against a wrenches
If you compile from the ports then the television factory is also your
living room.
Gert Cuykens wrote:
True, lets talk about the factory then
The machinery would be /usr/src
The resources would be /usr/ports
Do you agree a wrench is not a resource ?
I think your analogies go astray because you don't fully understand
the wide variety of uses Perl has. It used in many different
of perl in ports is a framework because the
framework supports the snowplow all the time like x11 does that for
gnome. After the snowplow is installed the wrench has of no use for
plowing snow. Like perl has of no use after you build the package.
For me perl belongs to the base toolbox in your garage
On Wed, Jan 26, 2005 at 06:31:32PM +0100, Gert Cuykens said:
If you compile from the ports then the television factory is also your
living room.
True, lets talk about the factory then
The machinery would be /usr/src
The resources would be /usr/ports
Do you agree a wrench is not a
On Wednesday 26 January 2005 05:45 pm, Adam Smith wrote:
On Wed, Jan 26, 2005 at 06:31:32PM +0100, Gert Cuykens said:
If you compile from the ports then the television factory is also
your living room.
True, lets talk about the factory then
The machinery would be /usr/src
The
ok ok me stop asking questions about the wrench lying in my living
room next to my television. I will just put some flowers on top of it
:P
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On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 21:53:01 -0800, Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, Jan 25, 2005 at 03:30:05PM +1000, Warren wrote:
On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 03:28 pm, Gert Cuykens wrote:
does cvsup need perl ?
Yes
Only to compile it from ports, not to run the resulting package.
Kris
On Tue, Jan 25, 2005 at 09:26:07AM +0100, Gert Cuykens wrote:
On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 21:53:01 -0800, Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, Jan 25, 2005 at 03:30:05PM +1000, Warren wrote:
On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 03:28 pm, Gert Cuykens wrote:
does cvsup need perl ?
Yes
Only to
--On Tuesday, January 25, 2005 09:26:07 AM +0100 Gert Cuykens
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
this is what i dont understand only need perl to compile it ?
so some pakeges need perl to compile and some dont ? why not make them
all perl independent ?
This shouldn't be too hard to do. All you have to do
On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 10:33:25 -0600, Paul Schmehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--On Tuesday, January 25, 2005 09:26:07 AM +0100 Gert Cuykens
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
this is what i dont understand only need perl to compile it ?
so some pakeges need perl to compile and some dont ? why not make
On Tuesday 25 January 2005 01:00 pm, Gert Cuykens wrote:
On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 10:33:25 -0600, Paul Schmehl [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--On Tuesday, January 25, 2005 09:26:07 AM +0100 Gert Cuykens
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
this is what i dont understand only need perl to compile it ?
In the last episode (Jan 25), Gert Cuykens said:
On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 10:33:25 -0600, Paul Schmehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tuesday, January 25, 2005 09:26:07 AM +0100 Gert Cuykens [EMAIL
PROTECTED] wrote:
this is what i dont understand only need perl to compile it ?
so some
On Tue, Jan 25, 2005 at 08:00:54PM +0100, Gert Cuykens wrote:
On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 10:33:25 -0600, Paul Schmehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--On Tuesday, January 25, 2005 09:26:07 AM +0100 Gert Cuykens
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
this is what i dont understand only need perl to compile it ?
so if i go to a ports tree directory how do i display a list of all
dependencies without compiling it ?
I am guessing something like make info :)
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On Tue, Jan 25, 2005 at 11:23:09PM +0100, Gert Cuykens wrote:
so if i go to a ports tree directory how do i display a list of all
dependencies without compiling it ?
I am guessing something like make info :)
'make pretty-print-run-depends-list' or
'make pretty-print-build-depends-list'
ps who is the imake developer ?
Believe me i am going to mail every developer where perl comes in
between me and the application :P
I dont want perl , i know it can do great things but i dont want it.
Its a bit like internet explorer browser or msn messenger in windows.
I just want a windows not
On Tue, Jan 25, 2005 at 11:41:56PM +0100, Gert Cuykens wrote:
ps who is the imake developer ?
Believe me i am going to mail every developer where perl comes in
between me and the application :P
That would mostly just irritate developers and point out your own
ignorance.
I think you need to
Kris Kennaway wrote:
I will start with the cvsup developer :P
cvsup itself doesn't require perl to build (as you can see from the
lack of mention in the makefile), it's one of the other build
dependencies.
Well I think Modula-3 is find totally useless and even obsolete and dead
as far as
On Tue, Jan 25, 2005 at 11:51:28PM +0100, David Landgren wrote:
Kris Kennaway wrote:
I will start with the cvsup developer :P
cvsup itself doesn't require perl to build (as you can see from the
lack of mention in the makefile), it's one of the other build
dependencies.
Well I think
On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 14:47:32 -0800, Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, Jan 25, 2005 at 11:41:56PM +0100, Gert Cuykens wrote:
ps who is the imake developer ?
Believe me i am going to mail every developer where perl comes in
between me and the application :P
That would mostly
--On Tuesday, January 25, 2005 11:59:54 PM +0100 Gert Cuykens
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
no why would it irritate developers ? Its just a question ? i only
want them to think a bit before they bring in perl to build there
application.
I am not a developer so i can not think for them i can only ask
Gert Cuykens wrote:
On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 14:47:32 -0800, Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[ ... ]
no why would it irritate developers ? Its just a question ? i only
want them to think a bit before they bring in perl to build there
application.
I am not a developer so i can not think for them
Gert Cuykens wrote:
I want a freebsd with cvsup x11 and a gnome-lite desktop. Its what i
like about freebsd filosofie you have a house and you can chose your
own freebsd port furniture. For me perl is a closet that i dont want
because it doesnt go well with my php painting and my apache carpet.
If
Let me get this straight. You're not a developer, so you don't know
languages or how to code. Yet you're completely convinced that perl is
insecure and should never be used anywhere, and you're equally convinced
that no developer should be using it for their programs.
Is that about right?
--On Wednesday, January 26, 2005 12:35:32 AM +0100 Gert Cuykens
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
For me freebsd is build as a base that
can handle everything designed for it. If application need something
to help it build, it should belong to the base and not to a external
perl tool.
Then it wouldn't
For me freebsd is build as a base that
can handle everything designed for it. If application need something
to help it build, it should belong to the base and not to a external
perl tool.
Then it wouldn't hurt for you to know that perl *is* part of the base of
FreeBSD. There is *also*
For me freebsd is build as a base that
can handle everything designed for it. If application need something
to help it build, it should belong to the base and not to a external
perl tool.
Then it wouldn't hurt for you to know that perl *is* part of the base of
FreeBSD. There
Let me get this straight. You're not a developer, so you don't know
languages or how to code. Yet you're completely convinced that perl is
insecure and should never be used anywhere, and you're equally convinced
that no developer should be using it for their programs.
Is that
So if want to (install) buy a car and go to the (ports) shop i dont
expect to bring my (perl) wrench to the (ports) shop .
No, you expect a competent shop to have the tool and know
how to use it. Otherwise you wouldn't take your car there.
Ok thats true but a toolbox belongs in the car
Do we still need perl to make use of ports
Just asking because it bugs me. I never use it and it just takes up
space and it is a security risc :P I want it gone :)
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make and make install clean should do a good thing too, if the sourcecode
itself isnt perl, nor any part of it, you should get the results wanted with
these commands.
please correct me, if im not right, but the Makefile is not pl, right?
Greetings
Oliver Leitner
Technical Staff
On Tue, Jan 25, 2005 at 01:42:24AM +0100, Gert Cuykens wrote:
Do we still need perl to make use of ports
Just asking because it bugs me. I never use it and it just takes up
space and it is a security risc :P I want it gone :)
Only if you want to do certain things like 'make index', but not
On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 16:54:50 -0800, Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, Jan 25, 2005 at 01:42:24AM +0100, Gert Cuykens wrote:
Do we still need perl to make use of ports
Just asking because it bugs me. I never use it and it just takes up
space and it is a security risc :P I want
On Tue, Jan 25, 2005 at 02:02:13AM +0100, Gert Cuykens wrote:
On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 16:54:50 -0800, Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, Jan 25, 2005 at 01:42:24AM +0100, Gert Cuykens wrote:
Do we still need perl to make use of ports
Just asking because it bugs me. I never use
On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 17:22:57 -0800, Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, Jan 25, 2005 at 02:02:13AM +0100, Gert Cuykens wrote:
On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 16:54:50 -0800, Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, Jan 25, 2005 at 01:42:24AM +0100, Gert Cuykens wrote:
Do we still
On Monday 24 January 2005 06:54 pm, Kris Kennaway wrote:
On Tue, Jan 25, 2005 at 01:42:24AM +0100, Gert Cuykens wrote:
Do we still need perl to make use of ports
Just asking because it bugs me. I never use it and it just takes up
space and it is a security risc :P I want it gone :)
Only
On Mon, Jan 24, 2005 at 09:20:16PM -0600, Donald J. O'Neill wrote:
On Monday 24 January 2005 06:54 pm, Kris Kennaway wrote:
On Tue, Jan 25, 2005 at 01:42:24AM +0100, Gert Cuykens wrote:
Do we still need perl to make use of ports
Just asking because it bugs me. I never use it and it
On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 19:25:10 -0800, Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, Jan 24, 2005 at 09:20:16PM -0600, Donald J. O'Neill wrote:
On Monday 24 January 2005 06:54 pm, Kris Kennaway wrote:
On Tue, Jan 25, 2005 at 01:42:24AM +0100, Gert Cuykens wrote:
Do we still need perl to
On Tue, Jan 25, 2005 at 04:47:41AM +0100, Gert Cuykens wrote:
On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 19:25:10 -0800, Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, Jan 24, 2005 at 09:20:16PM -0600, Donald J. O'Neill wrote:
On Monday 24 January 2005 06:54 pm, Kris Kennaway wrote:
On Tue, Jan 25, 2005 at
On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 19:53:20 -0800, Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, Jan 25, 2005 at 04:47:41AM +0100, Gert Cuykens wrote:
On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 19:25:10 -0800, Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, Jan 24, 2005 at 09:20:16PM -0600, Donald J. O'Neill wrote:
On Monday
On Tue, Jan 25, 2005 at 05:12:12AM +0100, Gert Cuykens wrote:
So if i want to completly wipe out perl where in my freebsd 5.3 ports
tree do i do make deinstall ?
Use pkg_info and pkg_delete to remove the installed packages. See the
manpages.
Kris
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On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 20:20:10 -0800, Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, Jan 25, 2005 at 05:12:12AM +0100, Gert Cuykens wrote:
So if i want to completly wipe out perl where in my freebsd 5.3 ports
tree do i do make deinstall ?
Use pkg_info and pkg_delete to remove the installed
should update everything
depending on perl, that is:
* first, upgrade your perl5.8 installation.
* run use.perl port, so that the system knows you have 5.8.5.
* now, run some magic incantations to upgrade all ports depending on
perl,
that is run something like :
portupgrade
On Monday 24 January 2005 10:23 pm, Gert Cuykens wrote:
On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 20:20:10 -0800, Kris Kennaway
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, Jan 25, 2005 at 05:12:12AM +0100, Gert Cuykens wrote:
So if i want to completly wipe out perl where in my freebsd 5.3
ports tree do i do make
does cvsup need perl ?
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On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 03:28 pm, Gert Cuykens wrote:
does cvsup need perl ?
Yes
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On Mon, Jan 24, 2005 at 11:15:12PM -0600, Donald J. O'Neill wrote:
And if you want to install packages using the ports tree.
Eh?
depend on installing packages only, ok. Of course, you have to wait
for them to be built.
I just ran pkg_info -R perl-5.8.5, too many to count by
On Tue, Jan 25, 2005 at 03:30:05PM +1000, Warren wrote:
On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 03:28 pm, Gert Cuykens wrote:
does cvsup need perl ?
Yes
Only to compile it from ports, not to run the resulting package.
Kris
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Hello all,
I've run into a problem trying to install the perl5.8 port that I cannot
solve. I've been Googling around, and found a few having a simular problem,
but no solution. I have not updated perl before, so the present version are
the one that came bundled with FreeBSD. Here's the last bit
hello,
I just built a new perl (5.8.0) from source on a new clean install of
FreeBSD. Now some (but not all) ports fail to build with this error:
Error: you don't have the right version of perl in /usr/bin.
*** Error code 1
Where can I tell FreeBSD that I have new perl? Or are there some
Nick Tonkin wrote:
hello,
I just built a new perl (5.8.0) from source on a new clean install of
FreeBSD. Now some (but not all) ports fail to build with this error:
Error: you don't have the right version of perl in /usr/bin.
*** Error code 1
Where can I tell FreeBSD that I have new
Nick Tonkin wrote:
hello,
I just built a new perl (5.8.0) from source on a new clean install of
FreeBSD. Now some (but not all) ports fail to build with this error:
Error: you don't have the right version of perl in /usr/bin.
*** Error code 1
Where can I tell FreeBSD that I have new
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