On Sun, 7 Nov 2010 05:51:42 -0500, Jerry wrote:
> On Sun, 7 Nov 2010 09:43:12 +0100
> Polytropon articulated:
>
> > On Sat, 6 Nov 2010 15:54:46 -0700, Chip Camden
> > wrote:
> > > What does KDE or GNOME buy you anyway? Besides overhead.
> >
> > Blo
ptoms of that "closed-
ness".
Coming back to your initial statement: For users EXPECTING something
to act in a specific way, KDE and Gnome really "boost" their
productivity, as it doesn't force them to question or relearn
things they take for granted.
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date and in sync with the ports tree.
> Any ideas? I'm perplexed and Google is no help.
I can suggest reading the manpages of the programs in question
before consulting google. One of FreeBSD's strengths is its
EXCELLENT documentation. Know about that fact, and it will
help you in
y used command to
upgrade them is "portupgrad -af".
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able,
while GUI knowledge, achieved in a "Windows" of version N, is
not portable to version N+1, as it is outdated. There even is
no generic knowledge, one may assume.
Let me ensure you that I'm NOT against GUI generically. I'm
even lazy when it comes to reconsidering my da
ging things. GUI alone, with no functional
substance behind it, is useless. Sadly, you'll find more and more
programs that have blingbling and "experience", but are useless
to those who want to achieve a certain goal with it.
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ferences, talents, knowledge
and experience. I'm always impressed by people who are more
advanced than me, who use "minimalistic" environments and can
work faster, more productive, more relaxed. Allthough the tools
they use may look &q
On Mon, 8 Nov 2010 09:43:01 +, Bruce Cran wrote:
> [...] I do think a well-designed GUI can increase productivity by
> bringing things together that would otherwise be separate.
Yes. Plain YES. I'm just waiting for the GUI that actually DOES that. :-)
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On Thu, 11 Nov 2010 17:49:26 -0700, Chad Perrin wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 09, 2010 at 01:21:01AM -0800, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote:
> > Polytropon wrote:
> >
> > > The STRENGTH OF GUI (yes, I'm really saying that) is to aid
> > > using language elemen
something new. I've seen many friends being UNHAPPY with
how things are forced upon them, and they asked for alternatives,
which I could show them. Of course, at first sight, it looks
like Magic, then it looks like Voodoo, after that like hard
work, and finally like knowledge and experience.
I is limited to the use by halfway healthy individuals.
They are a no-go for blind users, for example.
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pable of.
The ability of EXCHANGE of programs for testing is also a strength
of the CLI that does not have something corresponding in GUI land.
If you want to see if GUI programs G1, G2 and G3 do the job you
want, you need to perform the job THREE TIMES - once per program.
For CLI programs C1, C2
by GUI programs
because their programmers think about "their way" as the only
way existing. So if "my" image viewer allows you to resize
and convert ONE picture, why should it show you how to do
that with an arbitrary amount of pictures? :-)
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On Fri, 12 Nov 2010 11:33:38 -0800, Rob Farmer wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 11:06, Polytropon wrote:
> > On Thu, 11 Nov 2010 21:21:51 -0800, Rob Farmer
> > wrote:
> >> I'm not saying the CLI is universally bad - if you gain competence
> >> with a set o
do that manually for
every of my clients." When I then see that people actually have
learned things, I see them being more professional - leading
to being more happy, as they have less work to do (because they
are now ABLE to DELEGATE this work to the computer). "Thanks
you showe
debate.
Why "vs"? It's "and". So let's have the "vs" vs "and" debate.
And as we are already on-topic, let's discuss which logical
operator is the best, maybe we find an alternative to "vs"
or "and"... or... yes, what about
arlie> GPL vs BSDL
> Charlie> C vs any other programming language
>
> Perl vs Readability
>
> :-)
Man vs machine?
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purchase it (demo version at www.pcrecovery.com
available).
Good luck!
PS. Please use a *descriptive* subject line when posting
to this list. This makes sure your message isn't
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ething. Also
check if vim has been set to automatically create backups
(of files before they get overwritten).
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.d/ to see
what effects
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D on "old-fashioned" hardware. For example,
I have a 150 MHz P1 with 128 MB here doing some simple "in-house"
server stuff - it currently runs 8.0 (and will soon receive an
update using freebsd-update, a tool that will allow you to keep
your system on a curre
hat's easy: See the -P option explained in "man ftpd". Also
see /etc/defaults/rc.conf which mentions ftpd_flags.
Remember: This is FreeBSD, we have excellent manpages and
other good documentation. :-)
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ty" shells are bash (obviously), zsh
and ksh.
> As an asside, having got the FTP server working, I then "had an idea"
> and ended up breaking it. Cest la vie... I'll look to using a stand
> alone program/utility I think, that involves less system settings
>
are provided by
the window manager you're using.
Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition! :-)
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packaes work without a ports tree installed.
Obtains files via Internet and installs all needed
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corresponds to PF9) is X. The
consoles for Alt+PF10,11,12 can be added easily.
> I often leave the main console alone to
> display system messages while I work at other consoles.
In former times, this was my STANDARD development
setting (text-mode only), 80x25 each.
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bility to be either a PTP compatible (use
gphoto2 and gtkam) or DA compatible (use mount_msdosfs).
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LLY sad to see more and more simple things
stopping working...
Giving *others* write access (o+w) to sensitive system
devices may not be a good idea in every setting. For
the "old fashioned" solution, this was not needed: The
user went to the operator ground, and g+w. Done.
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behaviour", you can mix
using ports and packages. As long as you keep an eye on
not duplicating stuff (pkgdb -aF helps here), it will
work well.
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On Tue, 30 Nov 2010 21:45:03 +0100, David Demelier
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> Since OpenBSD and NetBSD can support at most 32 partitions iirc.
I thought the limit was 26, as the letters a to z...
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>
> cd'ed to /usr/ports/x11/libX11, did a 'make deinstall', 'make clean',
> 'make install' - same results.
>
> Any other thoughts?
You'll need libXt for that, I think.
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Network is the way to go. USB *may* be okay. Parallel is not
living anymore - allthough I'm still using it that way, but
my home setting is a life support system for obsolete
technology anyway. :-)
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ENT
that is "good", and will therefore be the basis of RELEASE.
The security patches are also made from this basis, they
accompany RELEASE.
See the text file /usr/share/misc/bsd-family-tree for
details.
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nt release branch 8 (with 8.2 expected) and also
7.3, the last release of the branch 7, the legacy branch.
Those individual branches do exist for some time, but
as a release branch is out of support, the development
for this branch is stopped, it won't continue.
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On Fri, 3 Dec 2010 19:26:43 -0700 (MST), Warren Block
wrote:
> On Fri, 3 Dec 2010, Polytropon wrote:
>
> > I'm using a HP Laserjet 4000 duplex for more than 5 years now
> > at home, I'm happy with it, allthough it's a _huge_ printer
> > with all the
d to escape the [ or ] ?
No, as you want them in their regex meaning, "in the range of",
not literal [ and ].
> PS: See, this is why I keep cheatsheets. ;)
That's the fat green book on my shelf. :-)
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t existed as
an addition to DOS. I'm not sure this exists for "Windows",
or if you need some additional program for that.
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If I
remember correctly, it has FTP and archiver support, and
comes in a handy text mode application.
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improvements,
especially the incorporation of the "new partitioning methods",
involving labels, ufsids, GEOM, GPT and PMBR, keeping the
traditional methods MBR, fdisk, bsdlabel and newfs available
for those systems that the user INTENDEDLY wants to install
with those methods (e. g. older har
quot;You need a graphics card, a
mouse and 1 GB RAM to install this" is not an option. As
long as CHOICE is provided - no problem.
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t" newbies. :-)
> - There are small clones of standard vi, with executables
> no larger than ee, could replace ee.
Allow me a side question, but... what's wrong with ee? (Don't
get me wrong, I've been a long-ter
On Tue, 7 Dec 2010 11:14:10 -0500, Jerry McAllister wrote:
> I have no idea what an "FMV DESKPER ME4/535P" is.
Fujitsu-Siemens FMV DESKPOWER maybe.
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this problem with 4 and 5.
But hey, the printer works (again), and with my "new" system
getting ready for 8 and networked printing, I won't complain. :-)
> I'm OK with a printer that's as slow as I am. ;)
As long as the printer isn't as tall as you are... :
create /home/root and specify it (via chsh) as root's
new home directory. In this case, it will be on whatever
partition /home is on.
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system, can't reach hard disk, can't open
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On Wed, 08 Dec 2010 23:48:11 +1000, Da Rock
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> On 12/08/10 11:26, Polytropon wrote:
> > On Wed, 08 Dec 2010 00:09:24 +0100, "Julian H. Stacey"
> > wrote:
> >
> >> My comments/ wish list
> >> - One text mode (non bitmap gr
iso8859-15" with the font encoding you
need, and of course "12" with any other font size
that fits your needs. In order to construct the font
determination string based on a visual impression and
attribute selection from lists, you can use the
% xfontsel
program.
Attention:
#x27;s folder, then it copies/removes
> it/them to "SERVER B"'s folder.
Maybe cpdup can help here. Anyway, rsync would be a
recommended choice. After installing them, you'll
dinf documentation in "man cpdup" and "man rsync",
/usr/local/shar
ed to specify the correct block size:
dd if=/dev/acd0t01 of=track01.cdr bs=2352
This should give you a cdr (raw) file conforming to
the CD audio specifications.
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method of dump + restore. Before you can do so, run a
script (e. g. from a live system CD) to perform the
slicing and partitioning according to your needs
(fdisk, disklabel/bsdlabel, newfs, tunefs, or geom
tools, or zfs tools).
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media in my
extraction scripts, but I now do realize WHY: Before using
dd bs=2352 to get the data, I did
cdcontrol -f /dev/acd0 info
which prints out the TOC of the audio CD and, I assume,
makes sure the corresponding /dev/acd0tNN track files
get created; cdcontrol is part of the base sys
etting for /etc/rc.conf.
The rc script basically is a search & replace mechanism
that obtains the current version from a uname call.
In your case, check if the one server in question does
have update_motd="NO" set.
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uch devices
are still sold, but you should be able to get a used
one for less than nothing. :-)
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onf which states:
blanktime="300" # blank time (in seconds) or "NO" to turn it off.
saver="NO" # screen saver: Uses /boot/kernel/${saver}_saver.ko
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... pile ...
... of ...
... text ...
$((the)) $USER `/bin/laden` ${causes `NO' touble here!
'DELIMITER'
but # is the really safe form, as you can write ANYTHING
behind it. Again, the form illu
).
In case the user does NOT have a default shell, I think
you should be able to also define a system-wide environmental
variable by coding
KRB5_KTNAME=/home/svn/svn.keytab; export KRB5_KTNAME
into /etc/rc.local (which will be executed at system startup).
See "man rc.local" for de
On Thu, 23 Dec 2010 14:14:43 -0500, Jerry McAllister wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 08:12:49PM +0100, Polytropon wrote:
>
> > On Thu, 23 Dec 2010 23:27:52 +0600, Victor Sudakov
> > wrote:
> > > Colleagues,
> > >
> > > The svnserve daemon is star
setting for
/etc/rc.conf to be used by svnserve? This would be the
method most other programs handle things like configuration
flags that are not set by an own config file.
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me/svn/svn.keytab:
embedded into the proper structures.
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here - this is where docevot enters the
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makes the copy.
The schg flag has to be set on the destination file manually.
It won't be copied by the cp command.
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he /usr/src/bin subtree for the "chflags"
call revealed that it is used by the chflags binary, cp,
mv and rm commands, but no hint it is involved directly
in cpio.
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kernel is performed, in single-user mode of course, and
finally the world is installed in this "construction
environment". After that, the system is rebooted again
to start into multi-user mode again with the fully
updated system (kern
B_ERR_TIMEOUT
uhub_reattach_port: device problem (USB_ERR_TIMEOUT), disabling port 3
message recorded by dmesg?
What should I do to get this internal reader working, or isn't
it worth the time? I mean, if this is just the usual cheap and
crappy VIA "Windows"-only shit, I won't bother anym
s I do consider this a security risk). As I'm
mainly working with "outdated" stuff, I don't rely on the
latest modern technology for partitioning. :-)
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On Sun, 26 Dec 2010 18:45:41 -0600, Adam Vande More
wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 26, 2010 at 6:33 PM, Polytropon wrote:
>
> > Oh, I failed to mention that I did install 8.2-RC1 on this
> > "new" machine. Time for updating.
> >
>
> Well that should have the
hanism.
> I'm pretty familiar with Ubunutu and the /etc/rc0-6 but I'm new to
> FreeBSD
FreeBSD does not have this kind of runlevel based startup.
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ed to access
various media - without any problems. Those cards work well
on my v7 system (where those messages aren't shown). I just
continue as if those messages haven't been issued.
> dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/da0 bs=512k count=10
> fdisk -i /dev/da0
> newfs_msdos -F32 /dev/da0s
th it. It seems that it's not worth the time
trying to get rid of the unused parts.
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# mount /dev/da2 /mnt
# mount /dev/da3 /mnt
will cause the proper device nodes (e. g. /dev/da0s1, /dev/da1s1,
/dev/da2s1 and /dev/da3s1) corresponding to inserted media to
appear. Those can then be mounted in the usual way.
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h blocking SSH brute force
attacks or unwanted FTP connection attempts from unauthorized
IPs. There are good automating mechanisms in those tools. Those
tools are available from FreeBSD's ports collection.
Is this what you had in mind?
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quot;t" will follow, or
* indicate that the word will end.
In most cases, ' is replaced by `.
Inn Germenny new Englis Orfograffy iss, very importent
too the shildren in schol were thei ha've learn how to
propperly write. Nicht`s ist verboten, wenn man nich't
erwisch
Usually I do just install FreeBSD's
loader as there is nothing else to load. :-)
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ompt in bash, use this:
export PS1="\...@\h:\w\$ "
It is the equivalent to csh's
set promptchars = "%#"
set prompt = "%...@%m:%~%# "
Note that csh does automatically use % or # according to the
first setting. I'm not sure how bash
n-root)
That's why I said csh's set prompt = "%...@%m:%~%# " equals
bash's export PS1="\...@\h:\w\$ ", because bash does have a
different default prompt (which might not be desired).
A literal % can be used for bash's PS1 settin
On Sat, 01 Jan 2011 12:34:39 -0600, "Michael D. Norwick"
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> And, where are those commented out option lines
> in my xorg.conf documented?
In the obvious place: "man xorg.conf". :-)
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> Quoth Polytropon on Saturday, 01 January 2011:
> > On Sat, 1 Jan 2011 10:38:22 -0800, Chip Camden
> > wrote:
> > > At the risk of confirming my reputation for asking stupid questions:
> > >
> > &
r stage of dependency (maybe another
library or a "primary program" - the thing you actually
want to use).
Note that observations like this are the reason you have
to constantly buy a new computer in order to keep doing
the same things at the same average speed. :-)
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On Wed, 5 Jan 2011 15:03:02 -0800, Chip Camden
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> Gutenprint support is an OPTION in gimp -- perhaps turning that off
> relieves you of the dependency?
Or maybe it's an option to gnomevfs... or something
related to Gtk 2 in general...
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didn't have
> /dev/fuse (for ntfs write) and I had problems with module
> fuse.ko
I don't see anything related to FUSE or NTFS in your kernel
config which looks quite like GENERIC...
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rts or packages (/usr/local
subtree). See /usr/src/Makefile's comment section about
how to clean out obsolete parts of the base system.
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;man xmms", "man opera"), but many don't (see = don't
see "man firefox", "man thunderbird", or almost any KDE
program, where documentation is traditionally left to
the users, or left out, or redirected at the web, a
forum or a wiki, usually outdat
On Tue, 11 Jan 2011 09:56:07 -0500, Chris Brennan wrote:
> 2011/1/11 Alexander Konotop
>
> > Нет, не смотрел ещё. Вечером взгляну.
> >
> >
> What?
No, didn't look again, evening... is dark?
MbI roBOPNM nO-PYCCKN. :-)
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that log to files may be confused
that the file has disappeared. How about simply cutting the
files to zero length?
# cat /dev/null > /var/log/*
This will affect ALL files (expansion of *) which may not
be precise enough in case you want to keep some of the
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That would be better than my first suggestion. You can exchange
the part "/var/log/*" for any `find ...` command that specifies
the intended target(s) of your operation better than the builtin
shell expansion of the * expression.
thin the
process of "make update", but Makefile.local will be
ignored, so it will still be present after the update
of the ports tree.
Still, using a centralized configuration file for ports
options as provided by port management tools (such as
portupgrade or portmaster) often is the bet
.
Obviously, sub(nr, "[a-z]", " [a-z]"); is nonsense.
Can anybody please tell me the obvious and easy way
which I am missing? Thanks a lot! =^_^=
The reason I'd like to do this in awk is that I've
already spent enough time creating a format converter
i
e letters in one copy, then the numbers in
another one, and finally overwrite nr with the proper
recombination that includes the space.
Works as intended, FULLY. Thanks!
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forget about that, also nonsense, looks to new...
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mentioned, section "SECURING
THE KERNEL CORE, RAW DEVICES, AND FILE SYSTEMS". It seems
that this could cause different behaviour in relation to flags.
I will _not_ advise you to kill the files per inode (fsdb,
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files.
The methods of "echo '' > $file" or even the more
verbose "cat /dev/zero > $file" have been mentioned
on list, with $file being a shell wildcard expression
or `find ...` for better control about what to w
pect DOS text streams.)
The recode utility can be found in converters/recode port.
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t; <<< );
awk: illegal statement at source line 79 source file konvertieren.awk
But I'll keep your suggestion in the program source and test
it on 8 as soon as my "new" home system is ready to use. At
least, the & variant looks much better.
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e string s. If s is not given, $0 is used.
>
>
> So the correct syntax is:
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> sub("[a-z]", " &", nr)
Works in this version, thanks! Reduction of 7 lines of code.
sub(from, to, where); is the correct form.
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4 -mandoc | ps2pdf - $1.pdf
This would cause groff to format for A4 paper width.
It's fully possible that a similar approach can be used
for requesting a specific terminal width given in
characters, rather than inches or centimeters (from
a predefined value).
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messages _independently_ from
any MUA gives you the chance to test various applications,
or even use them in parallel, employing one and the same
mail data. Using the system's mailer (e. g. via SMARTHOST)
makes you fully independent from the traditional POP/SMTP
accounts _in_ the MUA.
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inted by the fall of speed and accessibility with
the switch from Gtk1 to Gtk2.
I do NOT want to say that text mode MUAs can't be easy to
use, versatile, powerful and _FAST_. In fact, pine was one
of the first MUAs I've ever used, and there's nothing
about "it's too complicated
the actual
printer filter.
Sorry I can't be more CUPS-specific as I have abandoned
this... "monster" many years ago. :-)
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as kernel.GENERIC. This should be a -RELEASE kernel of the
release you're currently using (8.0, 8.1, 8.1), but can
be any GENERIC kernel of a -STABLE version, too. The system
will also automatically save the last kernal as kernel.old.
Before installing world, this old kernel will match ve
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