no idea what's microsoft one note (i don't use their products), but - as
usual - try to find unix program(s) that will accomplish your task, not
equivalents.
or try wine
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I heard that changing root shell to bash is not good idea
from whom?
use what you like the most.
, also programing
in any C shell not applicable. So which shell is the most appropriate for
root user ?
anything you like.
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Why is this not a good idea? The only reason I can think of it that you
want your root shell on the root hard drive. As many system use a
separate partition for /usr and that bash installs to /usr/local/bin per
yes it may be a reason, but there is always /rescue directory.
and - at least me -
Hello.
Has anyone been using the above (either USB or SATA)?
Do they work with FreeBSD?
i don't see a reason it should not.
anyway - it's cardridges are more expensive than ordinary hard disks -
doesn't make sense.
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i don't see a reason it should not.
Although they are HD, they are sold as tape replacement.
I was told they are seen as tapes and last time I checked only SCSI tapes
were supported by FreeBSD.
The whole thing might however not hold and they could be seen for what they
are: just hard
worked exactly as a SATA disc. Its more convenient
than plugging data / power every day and looks more
^^
the only true argument. if they like to pay more and You sell it - very
good.
for SATA disks - use e-SATA connectors or USB-SATA bridges
for sure not.
Well, they say they resist a lot better to accidental falling; I never looked
you seriously underestimate normal cheap hard disks :)
of course they will fail when hit WHILE WORKING, but when turned off they
can stand REALLY a lot.
I tried bash like this
for((;;))
do
mpg123 [mp3]
done
but it keeps running new mpg123 in background .
while true;do mpg123 filename;done
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So, what I would like is something that would dump the MS slice
to a FreeBSD file or media written in the FreeBSD world and that
I could then pick out files and directories somewhat like I do
using restore on a dump file.I suspect that tar might not
keep enough meta information to be right
I'm using Freebsd 7.1 and everything had been working fine, until I noticed
there were upgrades for Xorg. I went ahead and used portupgrade to upgrade
the packages and now I get a server error 11. I'm including the Xorg.0.log
and xorg.conf for you to examine.
good lesson to not change
login.
I can only login in with single user mode which freebsd proovide, but few
tools are provided.
How can I change my shell to sh without logining?
run chsh on single user
I have a debian cd which can bring me to its shell,but when i mount /dev/hda
,it says no such device.
Thanks.
I see no reason why you should run 6.4 at all though. What's your motivation
towards thaat angle?
I suggest you install the 7.1 and update it to -STABLE then see if anything
changes as regards the CPU (est message), while we wait for the magic word
from the dedicated developers.
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why not
- boot in singkle user mode
- mount all your s=disks: mount -a
- edit /etc/passwd with your favourite editor
it won't work.
databases must be rebuild, you have to use chsh or vipw
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anything
changes as regards the CPU (est message), while we wait for the
magic word
from the dedicated developers.
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why not simply use /amd64?
You mean he changes the CPU?
it's that CPU 64-bit capable?
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if you have program that do too much questions like (are you sure), and
you are sure then you do
yes|program
On Thu, 5 Mar 2009, Vasadi I. Claudiu Florin wrote:
Hell-o,
Ever wondered about the yes command? Well, I have. If one does yes into a
terminal one get's an infinit output of y on a
Mar 5 08:48:33 rebelion kernel: umass0: USBest Technology USB Mass Storage
Device, class 0/0, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 2 on uhub4
Mar 5 08:48:33 rebelion kernel: da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0
Mar 5 08:48:33 rebelion kernel: da0: Ut165 USB2FlashStorage 0.00 Removable
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Hello; I am having a funny little problem with latex-suite. When I press
F5, and am prompted with a list of environments to insert, no matter
which I choose, it is inserted with a superfluous that appears right
before the cursor. So, for example,
\begin{equation}
cursor_is_here
\end{equation}
formatted properly?
I did a 'ls -l /dev/da*' after key insert and there was only /dev/da0;
maybe I should do
# newfs_msdos /dev/da0
yes. anyway - windoze at least XP no more needs partitions on such
devices.
???
Thx
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formatted properly?
I did a 'ls -l /dev/da*' after key insert and there was only /dev/da0;
maybe I should do
# newfs_msdos /dev/da0
???
to be sure do
dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/da0 bs=64k count=1
before to clean anything from beginning, if any mess is there.
Why not just upgrade to 7-Stable and then use these:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16815121009
they cost less than port multipliers. They don't do RAID, but then if you're
on 7-Stable, you can use ZFS zraid.
or use geom based RAIDs and UFS
thanks for URL, anyway new
install apcupsd from ports
On Fri, 6 Mar 2009, Pieter Donche wrote:
The vendor of our new server, tells me that an APC Smart-UPS 2200VA
or APC Smart-UPS 3000VA does not have software for automatic shutdown when
power is lost, which is compatible with FreeBSD, it is only compatible with
I am working in Angola and have had a lot of problems with electricity //
until I have discovered this soft.
It works perfectly with the apc network card (It came as an option on my APC
1500).
I have setup apcupsd to use snmp (this seems to be the most stable use).
I was very surprised
ad0: 38182MB MAXTOR 4K040H2 A08.1500 at ata0-master UDMA100
ad1: 19092MB IC35L020AVER07 0 ER2OA41A at ata0-slave UDMA100
acd0: CDROM CRD-8482B/1.05 at ata1-master UDMA33
SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched!
GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider acd0 is iso9660/CARD07C.
Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ad1s1a
em0:
search geom_raid5 in google.
i don't know why it's not yet integrated in FreeBSD.
it works
On Fri, 6 Mar 2009, Peter wrote:
hello,
What is the easiest way to achieve RAID-5 in freebsd aprt for Vinum ?
I plan to use 1 x 250 GB (no mirroring) + 3 x 1.5 TB in RAID 5
Is there any tutorial
unpack tar.gz, compile, load kernel module and use graid5 tool :)
On Sat, 7 Mar 2009, Peter wrote:
Wojciech Puchar wrote:
search geom_raid5 in google.
i don't know why it's not yet integrated in FreeBSD.
I did search even earlier today, but all I got was wikipedia article +
some forums
just because it's not part of FreeBSD. why - i don't know
On Sat, 7 Mar 2009, Peter wrote:
Wojciech Puchar wrote:
unpack tar.gz, compile, load kernel module and use graid5 tool :)
I was going to say initially I feel like I am back in Linux - no ports,
download compile, test :-)), However
Id like to know if you can run metatrader 4 platform on freebsd.
its normally run on windows but im not a fan of windows.
but if you are fan of metatrader 4 you should be fan on windows ;)
you may try wine, but is it really worth of it, unless you run this
program occasionally, while doing
tin
slrn
On Sun, 8 Mar 2009, Gary Kline wrote:
are there any ports that offer an interface to USENET? I think mozilla
did, but that was a long time ago ... .
gary
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http://jottings.thought.org
news/pan seems to work OK, if you want a GUI. But be aware that nowadays,
you'll probably have to pay a monthly fee for usenet. ISPs don't seem to
routinely offer it as part of the deal anymore like they
used to.
at least in Poland there are free. and for my clients i have nntpcache'd
news
at least in Poland there are free. and for my clients i have nntpcache'd
news from Gda?sk University.
Actually, in most parts of the world, news are still freely available
with many ISPs (you may have to ask them explicitly), except for
alt.binaries.* which are quite bandwidth intensive.
i'm
The server is overload, the disk is 100% busy with 250 write operations
per second and a throuput of 6MB/s.
My first idea is because of mass random access/write on the disk. But I also see
the server can make 20k page fault per second.
what page fault? most page faults in FreeBSD doesn't mean
I am using FBSD 7.1R on PC. But yesterday (8 Mar 09) my hard disk was
physically broken. My machine is very old anyway. So I want to buy a
new laptop (notebook). I have some questions.
simply getting new hard drive could be enough.
1. Previously I use ADSL but now I go back to 56k serial
i'm just asking for sure - do sendmail has any limits of how much adresses
is put in CC/BCC in single mail?
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On Tue, 10 Mar 2009 08:51:12 +0100 (CET), Wojciech Puchar
woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote:
i'm just asking for sure - do sendmail has any limits of how much
adresses is put in CC/BCC in single mail?
Yes, of course. There is *support* for a limit, but the default
is to accept a large
define(`confMAX_RCPTS_PER_MESSAGE', `20')
thank you very much. that's what i was looking for.
You are welcome :)
FWIW, there are many more options tunables. You can read about them
in the `/usr/share/sendmail/cf/README' file.
yes i know this, but didn't read well.
but if you are fan of metatrader 4 you should be fan on windows ;)
you may try wine, but is it really worth of it, unless you run this
program occasionally, while doing everything else on FreeBSD?
Do you have any suggestions for an alternative?
definitely no, i don't know even what
Today, I successfully portupgraded libsndfile, but afterwards I noticed that my
sound doesn't work anymore.
Running FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE #0 and have a '82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition
Audio' sound card. Before it was working without any problems with the
sound/snd_hda drivers.
What can
:)
Nope, no sound coming out of my speakers. I was a bit worried that it was my
audio card died on me but booting from another external HD with FreeBSD,
everything seems to work fine. I'll portupgrade the other HD also to verify if
the same issue occurs.
run mixer and check if it's not
i've not paid much attention to licensing philosophy i the past,
because for me it was always windoze vs the goodguys.
however, recently i've become aware of there being a chasm within the
goodguys in that the bsd attitude is do what you want as long as you
give credit to the creator, whereas
devd.conf
On Wed, 11 Mar 2009, Peter Steele wrote:
I want to have a process running on my FreeBSD box that automatically detects
when a USB drive is inserted. What's the easiest way to accomplish this? I know
I could simply monitor /var/log/messages and look for the appropriate events to
That's why the GPL is often called a viral license. As
GPL is a communist licence.
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At 16:09 11/03/2009, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
That's why the GPL is often called a viral license. As
GPL is a communist licence.
No, even communist are more generous ...
It's not funny. Communism is common today, and it's getting stronger from
day they just changed to names to hide
The ACM Queue (1 May 2004) article by Jay Michaelson of Wasabi
Systems is very insightful.
There is no such thing as Free (Software) lunch
Please take a look at
http://queue.acm.org/detail.cfm?id=1005066
In 2009, you would like your product (esp infrastructure product
or platform) to reach out
I'd like to download information from our competitor's web site,
without their knowing it's from us.
so tell me address and i will download and send it ;)
The Tor network works fine, but they don't seem to provide a *nix
there is tor for unix in ports. tor works fine i used it a lot and
Thanks Andeas. Up to now, I only used the Tor client for Windows that
comes with Privoxy, so never used Tor as-is, and never on the command
line.
If someone's used to using Tor, I have a couple of questions. On
FreeBSD, I intend to use it to run a Python script to connect to a
remote web server
Do you know if i can get FreeBSD 7.0 to see USB to serial (RS232) cables if
they are
connected to a USB hub?
load a proper USB-serial driver ;)
man ucom
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This KVM uses only one USB connector for both mouse and keyboard.
I have several servers with different hardware and FreeBSD from 6.2 to 7.1,
and no one works properly the problem is: input doesn`t work at all OR/AND
mouse moves interpretend as keyboard pressings OR/AND input with like CTRL
You don't need privoxy for that.
but isn't the point of of using privoxy to strip identifying
information from http requests that would otherwise undermine tor.
if python script won't put any extras - what info you want to strip out?
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stopped. Why - because it got to widely known and there are actually less secure
than not using it at all.There are lots of hackers that run modified tor that
do analyzes/changes
what going through. I stopped when i once used it on my bank webpage and got
message about
change of SSL key!!!
8.0 CURRENT i386.
On 7.0, 7.1 and 7-STABLE there is still a little bit annoying message
in dmesg on my nx7300, but i it's harmless as I suppose:
acpi_tz0: _CRT value is absurd, ignored (256.0C)
completely harmless, it's buggy ACPI.
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This machine uses wpi and bge. Both devices seem to work ok chucking files
around a domestic network.
at least for wired network i never had a problem with broadcom chips
w...@pci0:8:0:0:class=0x028000 card=0x135c103c chip=0x42228086
rev=0x02 hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Intel
Does anyone have experience with a usb sound card? Are any of them supported
in FreeBSD?
looks like it is - man snd_uaudio
from manual it looks like it's standard of USB audio interfaces so all
should work - unless some manufacturers don't comply to standards.
simple get some laptop with
Do you have any credible proof ?
yes. i used NetBSD quite a long. i started turning into crap just when
wasabisystems appeared and employed good deal of NetBSD developers.
Then i switched to FreeBSD because i wanted WORKING system, while older
version no longer worked on new computers.
Thanks much for the help. If my modest Python script used to download
some web pages goes through Tor, is there a way for the remote web
server to somehow trace this connection back to me?
if you won't help them with extra info in request headers - no.
I've looked as much as i can, but with only 5meg free on / .. its making
things in terms of building world kernel a lil difficult .. what's the
command so i can see exactly what dir on / is using up all the space so i can
free it up ?
du -s directory
good lesson to NOT make multiple
da0: SanDisk Cruzer Micro 8.02 Removable Direct Access SCSI-0 device
da0: 1.000MB/s transfers
da0: Attempt to query device size failed: UNIT ATTENTION, Medium not present
this suggest defective device or USB controller/driver problems.
if you can - check it on another computer running other
guys, this is for any compression experts on-list. my main desktop is
nearly
full. i'm looking for the best means of compressing [mostly] audio
files.
mp3, ogg, and .flag. i cross backup among my servers and would like to
have
mp3 is already compressed as ogg
flac
already highly compressed and will not compress much further.
As far as the best compressor, I vote for bzip2/bunzip2.
in my tests i found NO case when grzip would not compress data better than
bzip2
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I would look into archivers/bunzip and archivers/p7zip. I recall
reading that the 7z format produces better compression rates than RAR
7zip is comparable to grzip (sometimes sligtly better - difference in
order of 1%), while much slower
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- The general archivers can compress the wav somewhat without loss, but
none do as well as the dedicated lossless compression program flac.
- Trying to compress mp3, ogg and flac files further is a waste of time.
- If you want smaller files, use lossy compression like mp3 or ogg
vorbis, and
lame -h -b 96 - i was able to tell the difference on every song, but it
wasn't really huge deal.
hm. oh, yeah, my new box has to have a superior soundcard. and
i'll pony up for even better speakers too. (so when i'm ready,
i'll ask what's best. maybe find
through a GELI encrypted GEOM. (No plain-text ever touches the disk.)
much better - use keyboard password.
Edit the rc.conf file to spoof the Ethernet (MAC) hardware address to
be a new pseudo-random value at each boot. Configure the system to
automatically receive an IP address via DHCP.
There is a special codec for speech. You'll find it the
audio/speex port. From the pkg-descr:
actually i use it with asterisk - at about 15kbps (VBR) there are audible
differences between this and standard 64kbps a-law - but the differences
are POSITIVE - speech sounds clearer!
The
For the same reason, you do not convert between lossy formats. Each might
give different kinds of artifacts that you do not want to combine. (Of
especially true with mp3 and ogg
Are you sure you can hear the difference between your flac originals and
--preset standard lame encoded mp3?
question.
More and more systems are made without serial ports these days. This means I
can't access the loader prompt on FreeBSD without a monitor and keyboard,
which
is an annoyance. So my question is, is there a way to channel input and
output of
the loader through LAN / Ethernet by software
I've been under the impression that this (fast deletes) had something
indeed. FreeBSD actually postpones free space bitmap update. after
deleting many gigs of files you'll see disk working after a while.
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indeed. FreeBSD actually postpones free space bitmap update. after
deleting many gigs of files you'll see disk working after a while.
excellent!
so is this a freebsd thing or a ufs filesystem thing?
for sure FreeBSD implementation of UFS ;)
i'm not sure how about UFS on other OS.
listened-to (kttsd) the man lame. Then surfed around; then came
back to the man page and read the several examples. So: the idea
is that lame [just] converts WAV files to mp3. There is a
as every good unix tool - it does exactly what is supposed to do.
nobody forbids
That's the idea: take telephone/voice @ what? 4kbps? -- it was
standard means between 300-3100Hz. often - sounds below 300Hz are now that
filtered today.
record your voice at 8Khz sampling rate and then compress with speex
various options and compare compressed and uncompressed.
If you're not an expert you should probably stick with one of the
--preset modes. E.g. '--preset medium' or '--preset standard'. That will
give you variable bitrate files with good quality.
lame -h -V 3 is what i use.
The speakers in telephones are tiny. That's probably a large part of it.
Not sure what's really going on there, but apparently, the process
reads in pages from swap that have been paged out previously
(according to top(1)).
is it your program and you are sure it's on exit?
i'm sure it's not.
it's because the program is writted the way it's doing a lot of things
is it your program and you are sure it's on exit?
Every memory hungry program is concerned; and yes: it happens exactly
on exit.
strange.
i just wrote a test program
#include stdio.h
int test[1024*1024*128];
main() {
int a;
for(a=0;a1024*1024*128;a++) test[a]=a;
puts(end);
}
it fills
You'll probably have to ask the port maintainer directly:
cd /usr/ports/java/linux-sun-jre16
make maintainer
he made him and the maintainer appeared ;)
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it swapped a lot, then wrote end and immediately exited.
Hmmm... yes, it's strange. With malloc-ed space, exit is also very
fast. On a 2 GB machine with amd64, exit is almost immediate:
try mallocing 2 million times 2 kilobytes and fill.
maybe exit first free all malloc'ed space which is
my fresh FreeBSD install just rebooted last night and i wonder how to
find out the reason why this happened? I took a look at the log files
but there was no explanation for this.
if your logs just cut off, it just panicked or hard-restarted.
if first - look at /var/run/dmesg.boot to see if
Apart from having to close each tab/window, freeing all its resources,
bits of the executable itself need to be paged in to do various things,
which may need to page out some more. What's amazing is that it can do
that for several minutes, coming out unscathed when it finally quits!
(extreme
But as Dan has pointed out, firefox et al. are probably written in
such a way that they reawaken all their dynamic data structures
from swap while cleaning up. There's not much one can do from the
OS side to prevent this from happening.
indeed. there are no fix for crappy software, usually
By this stage mozilla is about 150MB with about 60MB resident, and swap
is pushing 200MB. *seriously* paging, just on flipping to another tab.
Now close mozilla and watch top while it's shutting down. Go and pour
yourself a cuppa, there's no hurry ..
just tested with opera - the same. crappy
just tested with opera - the same. crappy software rulez ;)
Yes, clearly web browsers should be optimized for speed of exiting.
of other things - too
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But, honestly, a marginally minor resource footprint would not be bad, either.
But I've got a certain feeling that this thread'll go to advocacy sooner or
later :)
would be really nice about advocacy of GOOD web browser that not only
exits faster, but WORKS faster. i don't know any, except
look at chips that are on that card.
On Mon, 16 Mar 2009, Olivier Nicole wrote:
Hi,
I need to buy a PCI eXtended dual network card, any advise on what
brand is supported and work reliabily?
TIA,
Olivier
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so first check what chips it uses before ordering ask manufacturer/seller.
or if it's intel - buy without checking :)
On Mon, 16 Mar 2009, Olivier Nicole wrote:
Hi,
look at chips that are on that card.
I need to buy a PCI eXtended dual network card, any advise on what
brand is supported
I use the intel PCI-X cards with multiple OS's. They have 2 and
4 port versions.
/Nota bene/: I bought an (AGP) PRO/1000 GT dual port a while
back. PRO/1000s generally were harder to find and (if I remember
correctly) the two- and four-porters more expensive per port tham
/N/
drwxr-xr-x 4 master master 512 Mar 16 11:06 db
etc...
So, I guess a link is NOT exactly equivalent to a directory. At least not the
way I am doing it.
I'm guessing I'm making a real newbie mistake, so if anyone can set me
straight, I'd appreciate it.
IMHO you did everything properly,
I know one: Google Chrome - but it's only for Windows. Not only was it
designed to be faster, but also more secure.
You mean more securely getting all data about user for google.
NO THANKS!
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bs=64k (or more)
On Tue, 17 Mar 2009, Andrea Venturoli wrote:
Hello.
I'm using dd to clone an 8GB USB memory into an identical one.
# dd if=/dev/da2 of=/dev/da1
load: 0.01 cmd: dd 12026 [physwr] 0.00u 0.01s 0% 904k
396+0 records in
395+0 records out
202240 bytes transferred in 1.453741
On Ivoras'FreeBSD page, ``What's cooking for FreeBSD 8''
http://ivoras.sharanet.org/freebsd/freebsd8.html
LLVM site shows it's something like precompiler+runtime compiling.
will it be used that way, or as usual compiler?
the first way sound really good (single binary for every arch, and
I think the idea is to get away from gcc with its evil GPL3 license as the
very good move. i wasn't aware that usable GCC replacement exist, as it
was probably the only reason to keep communist licenced programs with
master FreeBSD sources.
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attached where?
On Tue, 17 Mar 2009, VeeJay wrote:
Hi,
Due to power faliure... my system was crashed... now I am unable to start
it... getting this on consol...please see attached screen dump...
Any help will be very appreciated to fix the problem
--
Thanks!
BR / vj
It does look promising, though. I hope it'll eventually surpass gcc in
actually - it's matter of measurement. for example - gcc generated code is
very fast, but often in expense of code size. Even -Os compiled programs
are quite large.
Large code=less efficient caching=SLOWER overall
master FreeBSD sources.
Please don't read too much into my remark, as I don't like to engage in
license ideology debates. I like GPL, BSD, and all the zillions of other
i do use GPL programs too without any problems - because there is
no BSD licenced equivalent (most often), or BSD
I'm a big supporter of small, efficient binaries. In fact, I'll often put
-Os in my /etc/make.conf CFLAGS setting. This only rarely improves raw
speed over more agressive optimization flags, however. I use it primarily
it do improves speed on DSP-like code that do repetitively the same on
make config
On Wed, 18 Mar 2009, szhou wrote:
Hi, All
I want to install ipsec-tools in FreeBSD6.3. I click command make
install in directory/usr/ports/security/ipsec-tools/, and i select
all packages in prompted window. while the installation failed,
because the kernel do not
#echo 'geom_mirror_load=YES' /boot/loader.conf
UNFORTUNATELY, I forgot that steps now I'm facing a problem how to correct
it where in after I restart the machine the system refuse to boot, I'm
stack on this loading:
F1 FreeBSD
F5 Drive 1
Default:F1
BTX loader 1.00 BTX version is 1.02
Oh, I'll agree with everyone saying IBM laptops are the best; but they
sold the Thinkpad line to Lenovo, who as I've mostly found have kept
up the standards. They are excellent buys.
not sure how about new ones but my Thinkpad T23 works excellent and
everything is supported, even winmodem with
vipw
On Wed, 18 Mar 2009, Joe Chimento wrote:
Is there an easy way to rename a user account belonging to 'www' group?
--
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and it failed
when run complaining that it needs a CPU with SSE instuctions enabled.
does anyone know what this is and related too?
are you CPU SSE capable? if so, probably this app checks capabilities
through /proc
add this to /etc/fstab
linprocfs /compat/linux/proc linprocfs
same Outlook 2003.
In the FreeSBD7 system, outcommented in /etc/inetd.conf the line
imap4 stream tcp nowait root /usr/local/libexec/imapd imapd
and did
# /etc/rc.d/inetd reload
Then set up a new mailaccount in Outlook 2003 for this FreeSBD7 mailbox in
EXACTLY the same way in the way I did for
anyway - you SOMEHOW got into that list and not linux one. So you must
know something about FreeBSD anyway :)
On Wed, 18 Mar 2009, Gal Lis wrote:
I guess that shows just how unexperienced I am with all of this.
On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 11:28 AM, Ross Cameron abal...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed,
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