Re: siisch1: Error while READ LOG EXT

2012-02-10 Thread Jack L.
the drive has reallocated some sectors and normally drives should never reallocate sectors unless it has trouble reading/writing to them. also, that drive has known firmware problems so it sounds like the drive needs replacing On Feb 9, 2012 10:38 AM, Mike Tancsa m...@sentex.net wrote: On

Re: known problems with 8.x and HP DL16 G5 server?

2012-02-10 Thread Slawa Olhovchenkov
On Thu, Feb 09, 2012 at 10:24:11PM -0800, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: On Thu, Feb 09, 2012 at 04:02:12PM -0800, Julian Elischer wrote: On 2/9/12 1:56 PM, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: On Thu, Feb 09, 2012 at 01:48:29PM -0800, Julian Elischer wrote: does anyone know of problems with freebsd and this

Reducing the need to compile a custom kernel

2012-02-10 Thread Alexander Leidinger
Hi, during some big discussions in the last monts on various lists, one of the problems was that some people would like to use freebsd-update but can't as they are using a custom kernel. With all the kernel modules we provide, the need for a custom kernel should be small, but on the

Re: Reducing the need to compile a custom kernel

2012-02-10 Thread Glen Barber
On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 02:56:04PM +0100, Alexander Leidinger wrote: The question is, is this enough? Or asked differently, why are you compiling a custom kernel in a production environment (so I rule out debug options zhich are not enabled in GENERIC)? Are there options which you add

Re: Reducing the need to compile a custom kernel

2012-02-10 Thread Marek 'Buki' Kozlovský
On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 02:56:04PM +0100, Alexander Leidinger wrote: Hi, during some big discussions in the last monts on various lists, one of the problems was that some people would like to use freebsd-update but can't as they are using a custom kernel. With all the kernel modules we

Re: Reducing the need to compile a custom kernel

2012-02-10 Thread Kristof Provost
On 2012-02-10 14:56:04 (+0100), Alexander Leidinger alexan...@leidinger.net wrote: The question is, is this enough? Or asked differently, why are you compiling a custom kernel in a production environment (so I rule out debug options zhich are not enabled in GENERIC)? Are there options which

Re: Reducing the need to compile a custom kernel

2012-02-10 Thread Andreas Nilsson
2012/2/10 Marek 'Buki' Kozlovský free...@dev.null.cz On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 02:56:04PM +0100, Alexander Leidinger wrote: Hi, during some big discussions in the last monts on various lists, one of the problems was that some people would like to use freebsd-update but can't as they are

Re: Reducing the need to compile a custom kernel

2012-02-10 Thread endzed
Le 10 févr. 2012 à 15:36, Marek 'Buki' Kozlovský a écrit : On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 02:56:04PM +0100, Alexander Leidinger wrote: The question is, is this enough? Or asked differently, why are you compiling a custom kernel in a production environment (so I rule out debug options zhich are

Re: Reducing the need to compile a custom kernel

2012-02-10 Thread Paul Schenkeveld
On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 02:56:04PM +0100, Alexander Leidinger wrote: Hi, during some big discussions in the last monts on various lists, one of the problems was that some people would like to use freebsd-update but can't as they are using a custom kernel. With all the kernel modules

Re: Reducing the need to compile a custom kernel

2012-02-10 Thread Panagiotis Christias
On 10/2/2012 15:56, Alexander Leidinger wrote: Hi, during some big discussions in the last monts on various lists, one of the problems was that some people would like to use freebsd-update but can't as they are using a custom kernel. With all the kernel modules we provide, the need for a custom

Re: Reducing the need to compile a custom kernel

2012-02-10 Thread Volodymyr Kostyrko
Alexander Leidinger wrote: during some big discussions in the last monts on various lists, one of the problems was that some people would like to use freebsd-update but can't as they are using a custom kernel. With all the kernel modules we provide, the need for a custom kernel should be small,

Re: Reducing the need to compile a custom kernel

2012-02-10 Thread Nenhum_de_Nos
On Fri, February 10, 2012 11:56, Alexander Leidinger wrote: Hi, during some big discussions in the last monts on various lists, one of the problems was that some people would like to use freebsd-update but can't as they are using a custom kernel. With all the kernel modules we provide, the

Re: Reducing the need to compile a custom kernel

2012-02-10 Thread Bjoern A. Zeeb
On 10. Feb 2012, at 15:56 , Panagiotis Christias wrote: On 10/2/2012 15:56, Alexander Leidinger wrote: Hi, during some big discussions in the last monts on various lists, one of the problems was that some people would like to use freebsd-update but can't as they are using a custom kernel.

Re: Reducing the need to compile a custom kernel

2012-02-10 Thread Bjoern A. Zeeb
On 10. Feb 2012, at 13:56 , Alexander Leidinger wrote: Hi, during some big discussions in the last monts on various lists, one of the problems was that some people would like to use freebsd-update but can't as they are using a custom kernel. With all the kernel modules we provide, the

Re: Reducing the need to compile a custom kernel

2012-02-10 Thread Freddie Cash
2012/2/10 Andreas Nilsson andrn...@gmail.com: IPFIREWALL_DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT, DEVICE_POLLING and HZ=1000. HZ can be set via /boot/loader.conf, and I think via sysctl as well. -- Freddie Cash fjwc...@gmail.com ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list

Re: known problems with 8.x and HP DL16 G5 server?

2012-02-10 Thread Mark Saad
On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 8:23 AM, Slawa Olhovchenkov s...@zxy.spb.ru wrote: On Thu, Feb 09, 2012 at 10:24:11PM -0800, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: On Thu, Feb 09, 2012 at 04:02:12PM -0800, Julian Elischer wrote: On 2/9/12 1:56 PM, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: On Thu, Feb 09, 2012 at 01:48:29PM -0800,

New BSD Installer

2012-02-10 Thread Joe Holden
Guys, This should really be reverted to sysinstall until the new installer is at least in a state where it consistently works... the most important part of a new users experience is the installer and the few new installs I have done lately I've just installed 8.2 and upgraded from there as

Re: New BSD Installer

2012-02-10 Thread Joe Holden
Joe Holden wrote: Guys, This should really be reverted to sysinstall until the new installer is at least in a state where it consistently works... the most important part of a new users experience is the installer and the few new installs I have done lately I've just installed 8.2 and

Re: New BSD Installer

2012-02-10 Thread Alex Samorukov
On 02/10/2012 06:56 PM, Joe Holden wrote: Guys, This should really be reverted to sysinstall until the new installer is at least in a state where it consistently works... the most important part of a new users experience is the installer and the few new installs I have done lately I've just

Re: New BSD Installer

2012-02-10 Thread Joe Holden
Alex Samorukov wrote: On 02/10/2012 06:56 PM, Joe Holden wrote: Guys, This should really be reverted to sysinstall until the new installer is at least in a state where it consistently works... the most important part of a new users experience is the installer and the few new installs I have

Re: New BSD Installer

2012-02-10 Thread Joe Holden
Joe Holden wrote: Alex Samorukov wrote: On 02/10/2012 06:56 PM, Joe Holden wrote: Guys, This should really be reverted to sysinstall until the new installer is at least in a state where it consistently works... the most important part of a new users experience is the installer and the few

Re: Reducing the need to compile a custom kernel

2012-02-10 Thread Adrian Chadd
I've done this a few times. The /boot/loader takes a _long_ time to suck in the 25 odd modules my eeepc requires to load a completely modular kernel. It takes a _very long_ time to suck these in over USB. It's a great idea and I think we should start down this path in the 10-CURRENT trajectory

Re: siisch1: Error while READ LOG EXT

2012-02-10 Thread Mike Tancsa
On 2/9/2012 1:37 PM, Mike Tancsa wrote: On 2/9/2012 11:34 AM, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: You will probably need to track these drives on a regular basis. That is to say, set up some cronjob or similar that logs the above output to a file (appends data to it), specifically output from smartctl -A

Re: New BSD Installer

2012-02-10 Thread Carl Johnson
Alex Samorukov m...@os2.kiev.ua writes: On 02/10/2012 06:56 PM, Joe Holden wrote: Guys, This should really be reverted to sysinstall until the new installer is at least in a state where it consistently works... the most important part of a new users experience is the installer and the few

Re: Reducing the need to compile a custom kernel

2012-02-10 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 02:56:04PM +0100, Alexander Leidinger wrote: during some big discussions in the last monts on various lists, one of the problems was that some people would like to use freebsd-update but can't as they are using a custom kernel. With all the kernel modules we provide,

Re: Reducing the need to compile a custom kernel

2012-02-10 Thread Doug Barton
On 02/10/2012 12:13, Adrian Chadd wrote: I've done this a few times. The /boot/loader takes a _long_ time to suck in the 25 odd modules my eeepc requires to load a completely modular kernel. For those modules not directly related to booting you're better off putting them in kld_list in

Re: Reducing the need to compile a custom kernel

2012-02-10 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 04:25:21PM -0700, Ian Lepore wrote: On Fri, 2012-02-10 at 15:10 -0800, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: * Addition: device ichwd - Note: We do not use features of this driver given known problems with the watchdog firing during ddb and similar environments. I have

Re: Reducing the need to compile a custom kernel

2012-02-10 Thread Ian Lepore
On Fri, 2012-02-10 at 15:10 -0800, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: * Addition: device ichwd - Note: We do not use features of this driver given known problems with the watchdog firing during ddb and similar environments. I have no idea if this has been fixed, but I do remember it being

Re: siisch1: Error while READ LOG EXT

2012-02-10 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
Mike, I wanted to make you aware of this commit that just came through: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/sys/cam/ata/ata_da.c I would recommend trying this out first to see if it improves your situation with disks on the PM. mav@ might be able to state with more certainty if that

Re: siisch1: Error while READ LOG EXT

2012-02-10 Thread Mike Tancsa
On 2/10/2012 8:27 PM, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: Mike, I wanted to make you aware of this commit that just came through: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/sys/cam/ata/ata_da.c Thanks, I did see that. I was going to wait until Monday to csup up once all the weekend level zeros are

hang during dump (reproducible)

2012-02-10 Thread Jake Holland
Hi, I was reliably seeing a hang during panic in stable/8 -r231144 (and 8.2 release) with an active ssh session. The SCHEDULER_STOPPED patch fixed it, once I found it: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-current/2011-December/030127.html

9-stable from i386 to amd64

2012-02-10 Thread Randy Bush
is there a recipe for moving from i386 to amd64? on a very remote system, i made the migration from 7.4 to 8.2 to 9.0, all 32-bit. it was done with repeated make buildworld make kernel.new [0] nextboot -k kernel.new reboot make installworld etc [0] - well, there were

Re: 9-stable from i386 to amd64

2012-02-10 Thread Doug Barton
On 02/10/2012 20:56, Randy Bush wrote: is there a recipe for moving from i386 to amd64? Other than backup and reinstall, no. As you already discovered the old world won't run on the new kernel. Installing the new world before reboot isn't safe either, as at some point in the process it'll blow

Re: 9-stable from i386 to amd64

2012-02-10 Thread Charles Sprickman
On Feb 11, 2012, at 12:48 AM, Doug Barton wrote: On 02/10/2012 20:56, Randy Bush wrote: is there a recipe for moving from i386 to amd64? Other than backup and reinstall, no. As you already discovered the old world won't run on the new kernel. Installing the new world before reboot isn't

Re: 9-stable from i386 to amd64

2012-02-10 Thread Bjoern A. Zeeb
On 11. Feb 2012, at 05:48 , Doug Barton wrote: On 02/10/2012 20:56, Randy Bush wrote: is there a recipe for moving from i386 to amd64? Other than backup and reinstall, no. As you already discovered the old world won't run on the new kernel. Installing the new world before reboot isn't safe

Re: 9-stable from i386 to amd64

2012-02-10 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Feb 10), Randy Bush said: is there a recipe for moving from i386 to amd64? on a very remote system, i made the migration from 7.4 to 8.2 to 9.0, all 32-bit. it was done with repeated make buildworld make kernel.new [0] nextboot -k kernel.new reboot

Re: 9-stable from i386 to amd64

2012-02-10 Thread Randy Bush
heh? An i386 world should run (almost) fine on an amd64 kernel. I know people who have done that update (but I know of no one done it headless). i am not sure i want to be the first :) PS: do you happen to know why the amd64 kernel did hang on boot? nope. dmesg -a did not help on reset

Re: 9-stable from i386 to amd64

2012-02-10 Thread Doug Barton
Sorry, I wasn't clear. There are various hacky solutions that you can use if you're safely within shouting distance of the system. But Randy specified very remote, thus the answer to his question is no. Doug -- It's always a long day; 86400 doesn't fit into a short. Breadth

Re: 9-stable from i386 to amd64

2012-02-10 Thread Randy Bush
The cleanest upgrade path is to prepare your 32-bit root to be bootable by both 32- and 64-bit kernels: copy the ld-elf32.so that was built during your buildworld over to /libexec/ld-elf32.so, and also make copies of /lib and /usr/lib to /lib32 and /usr/lib32 respectively. That way when you

dhclient script adjustments

2012-02-10 Thread Jason Hellenthal
After recent merges to stable/8 I am now seeing errors on bootup of the following for three interfaces that will never see the light of DHCP. ? /etc/rc.d/dhclient: ERROR: 'dc1' is not a DHCP-enabled interface Can someone please revert these changes or some other action. ? -- ;s =;

Re: 9-stable from i386 to amd64

2012-02-10 Thread Konstantin Belousov
On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 12:02:07AM -0600, Dan Nelson wrote: In the last episode (Feb 10), Randy Bush said: is there a recipe for moving from i386 to amd64? on a very remote system, i made the migration from 7.4 to 8.2 to 9.0, all 32-bit. it was done with repeated make