Re: Help review the FAQ

2012-11-26 Thread Bas Smeelen
On 11/27/2012 08:44 AM, Andrea Venturoli wrote: On 11/26/12 23:09, Bas Smeelen wrote: Probable addition 8.8 I get a lot of 'spurious interrupts detected' messages on a modified i386 build kernel and my computer does not work right. What did I do wrong? You have a single processor computer, bui

simple patch for portsnap to use wget

2012-11-26 Thread Luca Ferrari
Hi all, I was in trouble for a while because I was using FreeBSD behind an http proxy (a palo alto for what it means) and the portsnap command was unable to handle updates reporting always "file does not exist". After digging I found that the problem was in the phttpget command used internally from

Re: Help review the FAQ

2012-11-26 Thread Andrea Venturoli
On 11/26/12 23:09, Bas Smeelen wrote: Probable addition 8.8 I get a lot of 'spurious interrupts detected' messages on a modified i386 build kernel and my computer does not work right. What did I do wrong? You have a single processor computer, build your own customized kernel and disabled option

Re: bge on the new Mac Mini

2012-11-26 Thread YongHyeon PYUN
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 10:13:47AM -0500, Richard Kuhns wrote: > On 11/21/12 21:08, YongHyeon PYUN wrote: > > On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 10:49:21AM +0900, YongHyeon PYUN wrote: > >> On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 02:59:34PM -0500, Richard Kuhns wrote: > >>> On 11/20/12 03:52, YongHyeon PYUN wrote: > On

Re: Write Failed message with 9.1-RC3

2012-11-26 Thread Reed A. Cartwright
Mark, Shutdown happens cleanly. My pciconf.log is attached. sysctl.conf is empty. Kernel is uncustomized amd64: FreeBSD herschel.biodesign.asu.edu 9.1-RC3 FreeBSD 9.1-RC3 #0 r242324: Tue Oct 30 00:58:57 UTC 2012 r...@farrell.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 loader.conf: zf

Re: Write Failed message with 9.1-RC3

2012-11-26 Thread Mark Saad
On Nov 26, 2012, at 4:01 PM, "Reed A. Cartwright" wrote: > I'm new to this list... > > I'm running a bioinformatics server using 9.1-RC3 (64 cores, 512GB > ram). I have a ZFS raid-z2 array attached to an LSI controller with a > SSD cache drive. Can you tell us more about this server . Can y

Re: 9.1-RELEASE

2012-11-26 Thread Bas Smeelen
On 11/26/12 23:48, Bas Smeelen wrote: On 11/26/12 23:36, Rick Miller wrote: On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 5:25 PM, Bas Smeelen wrote: Hi Just modify newvers.sh to 9.1-RELEASE recompile and your on RELEASE :) Who has a no non-release policy, management? It's not just management, Just to sum it up

Re: 9.1-RELEASE

2012-11-26 Thread Bas Smeelen
On 11/26/12 23:36, Rick Miller wrote: On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 5:25 PM, Bas Smeelen wrote: Hi Just modify newvers.sh to 9.1-RELEASE recompile and your on RELEASE :) Who has a no non-release policy, management? It's not just management, checked, they don't have a clue, that's what we're here f

Re: 9.1-RELEASE

2012-11-26 Thread Rick Miller
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 5:25 PM, Bas Smeelen wrote: > Hi > Just modify newvers.sh to 9.1-RELEASE recompile and your on RELEASE :) > Who has a no non-release policy, management? It's not just management, but also software engineers, architects, and business folks. When a company runs a service wh

Re: 9.1-RELEASE

2012-11-26 Thread Bas Smeelen
On 11/26/12 22:42, mat...@hush.ai wrote: Hi. With the recent delays from the security incident and the three SAs out of the way, what now are we waiting for? I think we should just get rid of the release schedule on FreeBSD.org if we aren't even going to be close to the set dates. RC3 has been

9.1-RELEASE

2012-11-26 Thread matt . e
Hi. With the recent delays from the security incident and the three SAs out of the way, what now are we waiting for? I think we should just get rid of the release schedule on FreeBSD.org if we aren't even going to be close to the set dates. RC3 has been really stable for me, but we have a no no

Re: Help review the FAQ

2012-11-26 Thread Bas Smeelen
On 11/20/12 20:25, Eitan Adler wrote: On 19 November 2012 15:07, Aldis Berjoza wrote: 19.11.2012, 22:04, "Andrea Venturoli" : On 11/19/12 18:44, Eitan Adler wrote: Hey all, The FAQ for FreeBSD needs a significant amount of updating and changing. The first step in that process is to

Re: Help review the FAQ

2012-11-26 Thread Bas Smeelen
On 11/26/12 22:27, Schaich Alonso wrote: On 2012-11-26 (Monday) 22:15:27 Miroslav Lachman wrote: [...] So a kernel alone has 12MB, with debug symbols 62MB (12+50). And all *.symbols files can be deleted (if more space on /boot is needed) I don't know how it should be mentioned in FAQ. Miroslav

Re: Help review the FAQ

2012-11-26 Thread Schaich Alonso
On 2012-11-26 (Monday) 22:15:27 Miroslav Lachman wrote: > [...] > > So a kernel alone has 12MB, with debug symbols 62MB (12+50). > And all *.symbols files can be deleted (if more space on /boot is needed) > I don't know how it should be mentioned in FAQ. > > Miroslav Lachman Specifying WITHOUT_K

Re: Help review the FAQ

2012-11-26 Thread Bas Smeelen
On 11/26/12 22:20, Bas Smeelen wrote: On 11/26/12 22:02, Doug Hardie wrote: On 26 November 2012, at 12:53, Bas Smeelen wrote: On 11/26/12 21:27, Bas Smeelen wrote: On 11/26/12 17:25, Jakub Lach wrote: Thanks! Regarding FAQ, some info about journalling should be added to "Chapter 9 Disks, F

Re: Help review the FAQ

2012-11-26 Thread Bas Smeelen
On 11/26/12 22:15, Miroslav Lachman wrote: Bas Smeelen wrote: On 11/26/12 16:57, Jakub Lach wrote: [...] Thanks Miroslav Lachman for the reply with the correct sizes for GENERIC kernels. Change FAQ 8.3 Why is my kernel so big? Nowadays kernels are compiled in /debug mode by default/. Kernels

Re: When did Xorg remove support for keyboards, and mice?!

2012-11-26 Thread Chris H
Greetings Ian, and thank you for your reply... > On Mon, 2012-11-26 at 12:25 -0800, Chris H wrote: >> Greetings, >> Seems I get bitten by this every time I build a desktop on a new freebsd >> install. >> After all these years, I'd have the _definitive_ answer by now. >> I just put (built) a copy

Re: Help review the FAQ

2012-11-26 Thread Bas Smeelen
On 11/26/12 22:02, Doug Hardie wrote: On 26 November 2012, at 12:53, Bas Smeelen wrote: On 11/26/12 21:27, Bas Smeelen wrote: On 11/26/12 17:25, Jakub Lach wrote: Thanks! Regarding FAQ, some info about journalling should be added to "Chapter 9 Disks, File Systems, and Boot Loaders", especia

Re: Help review the FAQ

2012-11-26 Thread Miroslav Lachman
Bas Smeelen wrote: On 11/26/12 16:57, Jakub Lach wrote: [...] Thanks Miroslav Lachman for the reply with the correct sizes for GENERIC kernels. Change FAQ 8.3 Why is my kernel so big? Nowadays kernels are compiled in /debug mode by default/. Kernels built in debug mode contain many symbols th

Re: Help review the FAQ

2012-11-26 Thread Doug Hardie
On 26 November 2012, at 12:53, Bas Smeelen wrote: > On 11/26/12 21:27, Bas Smeelen wrote: >> On 11/26/12 17:25, Jakub Lach wrote: >>> Thanks! >>> >>> Regarding FAQ, some info about journalling should be added to >>> "Chapter 9 Disks, File Systems, and Boot Loaders", especially now, >>> when SU+

Write Failed message with 9.1-RC3

2012-11-26 Thread Reed A. Cartwright
I'm new to this list... I'm running a bioinformatics server using 9.1-RC3 (64 cores, 512GB ram). I have a ZFS raid-z2 array attached to an LSI controller with a SSD cache drive. Since upgrading to 9.1-RC2/3 (for AVX support), I have been experiencing hard drive lockups with the message "write fa

Re: When did Xorg remove support for keyboards, and mice?!

2012-11-26 Thread Ian Lepore
On Mon, 2012-11-26 at 12:25 -0800, Chris H wrote: > Greetings, > Seems I get bitten by this every time I build a desktop on a new freebsd > install. > After all these years, I'd have the _definitive_ answer by now. > I just put (built) a copy of 8.3 on an x(i)386 (AMD32) box. Built/installed > ke

Re: Help review the FAQ

2012-11-26 Thread Jakub Lach
This may be request for new questions, or this can be supplemented partially in hardware ones I think; - new default partition layout and it's justification (single partition nowadays, I believe?) - default block size and it's justification (is it 4K? why?) - NCQ support with ada/ahci - ahci p

Re: Help review the FAQ

2012-11-26 Thread Bas Smeelen
On 11/26/12 21:27, Bas Smeelen wrote: On 11/26/12 17:25, Jakub Lach wrote: Thanks! Regarding FAQ, some info about journalling should be added to "Chapter 9 Disks, File Systems, and Boot Loaders", especially now, when SU+J is default. Please also add: SU+J does not work (yet) with dump on a l

When did Xorg remove support for keyboards, and mice?!

2012-11-26 Thread Chris H
Greetings, Seems I get bitten by this every time I build a desktop on a new freebsd install. After all these years, I'd have the _definitive_ answer by now. I just put (built) a copy of 8.3 on an x(i)386 (AMD32) box. Built/installed kernel && world. All went pretty well. Just finished building Xo

Re: Help review the FAQ

2012-11-26 Thread Bas Smeelen
On 11/26/12 16:57, Jakub Lach wrote: As a reminder, this isn't a contest in kernel size :) Didn't mean to, I just put it there to state that 1.5 - 2.5 MB for a GENERIC kernel is not appropriate anymore. More useful would be if somebody would check GENERIC on i386/amd64 for FAQ update. Than

Re: Help review the FAQ

2012-11-26 Thread Bas Smeelen
On 11/26/12 17:25, Jakub Lach wrote: Thanks! Regarding FAQ, some info about journalling should be added to "Chapter 9 Disks, File Systems, and Boot Loaders", especially now, when SU+J is default. Add to FAQ 9.4 Which partitions can safely use Soft Updates? I have heard that Soft Updates on /

Re: Samsung SSD 840 PRO fails to probe

2012-11-26 Thread Adam McDougall
On 11/26/12 14:27, Alexander Motin wrote: Hi. On 26.11.2012 20:51, Adam McDougall wrote: My co-worker ordered a Samsung 840 PRO series SSD for his desktop but we found 9.0-rel would not probe it and 9.1-rc3 shows some errors. I got past the problem with a workaround of disabling AHCI mode in t

Re: Samsung SSD 840 PRO fails to probe

2012-11-26 Thread Alexander Motin
Hi. On 26.11.2012 20:51, Adam McDougall wrote: My co-worker ordered a Samsung 840 PRO series SSD for his desktop but we found 9.0-rel would not probe it and 9.1-rc3 shows some errors. I got past the problem with a workaround of disabling AHCI mode in the BIOS which drops it to IDE mode and it d

Samsung SSD 840 PRO fails to probe

2012-11-26 Thread Adam McDougall
Hello, My co-worker ordered a Samsung 840 PRO series SSD for his desktop but we found 9.0-rel would not probe it and 9.1-rc3 shows some errors. I got past the problem with a workaround of disabling AHCI mode in the BIOS which drops it to IDE mode and it detects fine, although runs a little s

Re: Help review the FAQ

2012-11-26 Thread Eitan Adler
On 26 November 2012 11:25, Jakub Lach wrote: > Thanks! > > Regarding FAQ, some info about journalling should be added to > "Chapter 9 Disks, File Systems, and Boot Loaders", especially now, > when SU+J is default. which question does this apply to, or is this a request for new questions? --

Re: Help review the FAQ

2012-11-26 Thread Jakub Lach
Thanks! Regarding FAQ, some info about journalling should be added to "Chapter 9 Disks, File Systems, and Boot Loaders", especially now, when SU+J is default. -- View this message in context: http://freebsd.1045724.n5.nabble.com/Help-review-the-FAQ-tp5762326p5764360.html Sent from the freebs

Re: Help review the FAQ

2012-11-26 Thread Miroslav Lachman
Jakub Lach wrote: As a reminder, this isn't a contest in kernel size :) More useful would be if somebody would check GENERIC on i386/amd64 for FAQ update. FreeBSD 8.3-RELEASE amd64 GENERIC > ls -lh /boot/kernel/kernel -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel12M May 8 2012 /boot/kernel/kernel FreeBSD

Re: Help review the FAQ

2012-11-26 Thread Jakub Lach
As a reminder, this isn't a contest in kernel size :) More useful would be if somebody would check GENERIC on i386/amd64 for FAQ update. -- View this message in context: http://freebsd.1045724.n5.nabble.com/Help-review-the-FAQ-tp5762326p5764353.html Sent from the freebsd-stable mailing list a

Re: Help review the FAQ

2012-11-26 Thread Jakub Lach
Again, sorry for confusion :) ls -la /boot/kernel/kernel -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 5842267 25 lis 18:32 /boot/kernel/kernel Yes, it could be artificially smaller still, but delegating to modules things I would load witch each startup would be absurd. First size was whole directory with module

Re: Help review the FAQ

2012-11-26 Thread Bas Smeelen
On 11/26/2012 04:26 PM, Volodymyr Kostyrko wrote: 26.11.2012 16:49, Jakub Lach: Absolutely not, it's a heavily stripped custom kernel on this machine on /boot/. Do you call this heavily stripped? :) > ls -la /boot/kernel/kernel -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 5757970 Nov 26 10:57 /boot/kernel/kern

Re: Help review the FAQ

2012-11-26 Thread Volodymyr Kostyrko
26.11.2012 16:49, Jakub Lach: Absolutely not, it's a heavily stripped custom kernel on this machine on /boot/. Do you call this heavily stripped? :) > ls -la /boot/kernel/kernel -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 5757970 Nov 26 10:57 /boot/kernel/kernel However it's very hard to strip kernel further

Re: bge on the new Mac Mini

2012-11-26 Thread Richard Kuhns
On 11/21/12 21:08, YongHyeon PYUN wrote: > On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 10:49:21AM +0900, YongHyeon PYUN wrote: >> On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 02:59:34PM -0500, Richard Kuhns wrote: >>> On 11/20/12 03:52, YongHyeon PYUN wrote: On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 10:30:04AM -0500, Richard Kuhns wrote: > Hi all,

Re: Help review the FAQ

2012-11-26 Thread Jakub Lach
Absolutely not, it's a heavily stripped custom kernel on this machine on /boot/. I was pointing to that, if my kernel is 9 MB, there's no way GENERIC could be 1.5-2.5 MB. Sorry for confusion. -- View this message in context: http://freebsd.1045724.n5.nabble.com/Help-review-the-FAQ-tp5762326p

Re: buildworld with clang breaks because no cc

2012-11-26 Thread Beeblebrox
Dimitry Andric-4 wrote > As said earlier, since you seem to be doing multithreaded builds, the > actual error is obscured here. It will have occurred some time before > the part of the log you posted. Thanks for your help Dimitry. I commented out THREADS = 6 in buildflags.conf and re-ran make re

Re: buildworld with clang breaks because no cc

2012-11-26 Thread Dimitry Andric
On 2012-11-26 12:11, Beeblebrox wrote: Some strange errors continue - I'm not complaining, just informing: /asp/src/release > # make release OR # make cdrom etc.. breaks at kernel.txz: ===> zlib (install) install -o root -g wheel -m 555 zlib.ko //usr/obj/asp/src/release/dist/kernel/boot/kernel

Re: buildworld with clang breaks because no cc

2012-11-26 Thread Beeblebrox
Some strange errors continue - I'm not complaining, just informing: /asp/src/release > # make release OR # make cdrom etc.. breaks at kernel.txz: ===> zlib (install) install -o root -g wheel -m 555 zlib.ko //usr/obj/asp/src/release/dist/kernel/boot/kernel kldxref //usr/obj/asp/src/release/dist/ke

Re: Some new hardware with 9.1 does not reboot easily

2012-11-26 Thread Andriy Gapon
on 26/11/2012 12:10 Patrick Lamaiziere said the following: > As far I can see it fails because there is no getnewvnode_reserve() > / get_newvnode_drop_reserve() in 9.1. The patch is for stable/9. -- Andriy Gapon ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing l

Re: Some new hardware with 9.1 does not reboot easily

2012-11-26 Thread Patrick Lamaiziere
Le Fri, 23 Nov 2012 23:41:32 +0100, Willem Jan Withagen a écrit : Hello, > >> I'm waiting for the system to come back up, and will put the svn > >> diff on my webserver, unless it is oke to post a 1200 lines of > >> diff?? > > > > I think that a webserver option would be better. > > Thanks a

Re: confirm that csup is still usable fos the new 9.1

2012-11-26 Thread Ben Morrow
Quoth Chris Rees : > On 26 Nov 2012 08:12, "Perry Hutchison" wrote: > > Kevin Oberman wrote: > > > > > ... don't bet that csup and cvs will be around long ... > > > It's really time to get away from CVS and I suspect > > > it will be going away sooner than had been planned. > > > > Once csup goes

Re: confirm that csup is still usable fos the new 9.1

2012-11-26 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 26/11/2012 08:07, Perry Hutchison wrote: > Once csup goes away, how will a base-only system update > the sources, e.g. to follow a security branch? freebsd-update(8) Cheers, Matthew ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://

Re: confirm that csup is still usable fos the new 9.1

2012-11-26 Thread Chris Rees
On 26 Nov 2012 08:12, "Perry Hutchison" wrote: > > Kevin Oberman wrote: > > > ... don't bet that csup and cvs will be around long ... > > It's really time to get away from CVS and I suspect > > it will be going away sooner than had been planned. > > Once csup goes away, how will a base-only syste

Re: confirm that csup is still usable fos the new 9.1

2012-11-26 Thread Perry Hutchison
Kevin Oberman wrote: > ... don't bet that csup and cvs will be around long ... > It's really time to get away from CVS and I suspect > it will be going away sooner than had been planned. Once csup goes away, how will a base-only system update the sources, e.g. to follow a security branch? __