Re: Help review the FAQ

2012-12-15 Thread Jakub Lach
/include/npx.h + NOTES content. -- View this message in context: http://freebsd.1045724.n5.nabble.com/Help-review-the-FAQ-tp5762326p5769493.html Sent from the freebsd-stable mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list

Re: Help review the FAQ

2012-12-14 Thread Jakub Lach
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Re: Help review the FAQ

2012-12-13 Thread Jakub Lach
#xfree86-root There is no Xwrapper (x11/wrapper) in ports tree. (Port is expired, whole answer outdated.) #xconsole-failure Indeed xconsole throws such error, but not xterm -C. -- View this message in context: http://freebsd.1045724.n5.nabble.com/Help-review-the-FAQ-tp5762326p5769225.html

Re: Help review the FAQ

2012-12-13 Thread Jakub Lach
#uninstall-kerberos Uh? Reinstalling base will delete kerberos? I don't get this answer. I thought kerberos was part of base? -- View this message in context: http://freebsd.1045724.n5.nabble.com/Help-review-the-FAQ-tp5762326p5769224.html Sent from the freebsd-stable mailing list archi

Re: Help review the FAQ

2012-12-12 Thread Jakub Lach
I think HAST (hastd) is faq-worthy, as since release 9, it covers area previously vocally missed by some. -- View this message in context: http://freebsd.1045724.n5.nabble.com/Help-review-the-FAQ-tp5762326p5768880.html Sent from the freebsd-stable mailing list archive at Nabble.com

Re: Help review the FAQ

2012-12-10 Thread Jakub Lach
.cgusc.c sb.h sbc.c Sorry. -- View this message in context: http://freebsd.1045724.n5.nabble.com/Help-review-the-FAQ-tp5762326p5768186.html Sent from the freebsd-stable mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ freebsd-stable

Re: Help review the FAQ

2012-12-10 Thread Ian Smith
On Sun, 9 Dec 2012 08:03:03 -0800, Jakub Lach wrote: > Probably already axed, it was supported by > dev/sound/isa/mss.c and isa/snd/ad1848.c I think. Add text and items enhancing knowledge for later and latest kit, by all means, but - just speaking generally - "Careful with that axe, Eugene!"

Re: Help review the FAQ

2012-12-10 Thread Jakub Lach
Ok, but it doesn't change current primary reason of silent devices (wrong pinout) :) -- View this message in context: http://freebsd.1045724.n5.nabble.com/Help-review-the-FAQ-tp5762326p5768088.html Sent from the freebsd-stable mailing list archive at Nabbl

Re: Help review the FAQ

2012-12-10 Thread Lars Engels
On Sun, Dec 09, 2012 at 07:47:01AM -0800, Jakub Lach wrote: > #sound-card-support > > First part is fine, assuming man pages will be up to date etc. Not sure > about > support for MIDI cards/MPU-401. Is this covered by uart? Don't know whatever > was "Microsoft® Sound System specification". > >

Re: Help review the FAQ

2012-12-09 Thread CeDeROM
AdLib ROX! :-) http://www.datasheetarchive.com/indexer.php?file=DSA00355987.pdf&dir=Datasheet-020&keywords=AD1848%2F1846&database=user-highscore# http://www.ebay.com/itm/Analog-Devices-AD1848KP-ISA-SoundPort-Opti-82C29A-/200846434225?pt=US_Sound_Cards_Internal_&hash=item2ec3615fb1 At computer de

Re: Help review the FAQ

2012-12-09 Thread Jakub Lach
Closest now would be ancient snd_ad1816, maybe it could be usable with it but it's pure speculation, good luck with finding hardware and testing that :) -- View this message in context: http://freebsd.1045724.n5.nabble.com/Help-review-the-FAQ-tp5762326p5767810.html Sent from the fr

Re: Help review the FAQ

2012-12-09 Thread Jakub Lach
ted by dev/sound/isa/mss.c and isa/snd/ad1848.c I think. -- View this message in context: http://freebsd.1045724.n5.nabble.com/Help-review-the-FAQ-tp5762326p5767809.html Sent from the freebsd-stable mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ freebsd-stable

Re: Help review the FAQ

2012-12-09 Thread Jakub Lach
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Re: Help review the FAQ

2012-12-07 Thread Eitan Adler
On 7 December 2012 16:11, Bas Smeelen wrote: > On 12/07/12 21:36, Jakub Lach wrote: >> >> While it's very, very minute detail, I think that in #officesuite >> there should be "Apache OpenOffice" not "Apache Open Office" >> as they were very careful even bureaucratic [*] if I reckon correctly, >> w

Re: Help review the FAQ

2012-12-07 Thread Bas Smeelen
On 12/07/12 21:36, Jakub Lach wrote: While it's very, very minute detail, I think that in #officesuite there should be "Apache OpenOffice" not "Apache Open Office" as they were very careful even bureaucratic [*] if I reckon correctly, when choosing new branding. [*] They have "branding initiativ

Re: Help review the FAQ

2012-12-07 Thread Jakub Lach
idelines" and held vote- https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/entry/openoffice_org_is_now_apache -- View this message in context: http://freebsd.1045724.n5.nabble.com/Help-review-the-FAQ-tp5762326p5767462.html Sent from the freebsd-stable mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___

Re: Help review the FAQ

2012-11-30 Thread Jakub Lach
astie are all fine. -- View this message in context: http://freebsd.1045724.n5.nabble.com/Help-review-the-FAQ-tp5762326p5765495.html Sent from the freebsd-stable mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list

Re: Help review the FAQ

2012-11-27 Thread Jakub Lach
If it is really mandatory on i386, why there is option at all? According to man, while apic is mandatory on amd64 there is no corresponding config or NOTES entry. -- View this message in context: http://freebsd.1045724.n5.nabble.com/Help-review-the-FAQ-tp5762326p5764584.html Sent from the

Re: Help review the FAQ

2012-11-26 Thread Bas Smeelen
On 11/27/2012 08:44 AM, Andrea Venturoli wrote: On 11/26/12 23:09, Bas Smeelen wrote: Probable addition 8.8 I get a lot of 'spurious interrupts detected' messages on a modified i386 build kernel and my computer does not work right. What did I do wrong? You have a single processor computer, bui

Re: Help review the FAQ

2012-11-26 Thread Andrea Venturoli
On 11/26/12 23:09, Bas Smeelen wrote: Probable addition 8.8 I get a lot of 'spurious interrupts detected' messages on a modified i386 build kernel and my computer does not work right. What did I do wrong? You have a single processor computer, build your own customized kernel and disabled option

Re: Help review the FAQ

2012-11-26 Thread Bas Smeelen
On 11/20/12 20:25, Eitan Adler wrote: On 19 November 2012 15:07, Aldis Berjoza wrote: 19.11.2012, 22:04, "Andrea Venturoli" : On 11/19/12 18:44, Eitan Adler wrote: Hey all, The FAQ for FreeBSD needs a significant amount of updating and changing. The first step in that process is to

Re: Help review the FAQ

2012-11-26 Thread Bas Smeelen
On 11/26/12 22:27, Schaich Alonso wrote: On 2012-11-26 (Monday) 22:15:27 Miroslav Lachman wrote: [...] So a kernel alone has 12MB, with debug symbols 62MB (12+50). And all *.symbols files can be deleted (if more space on /boot is needed) I don't know how it should be mentioned in FAQ. Miroslav

Re: Help review the FAQ

2012-11-26 Thread Schaich Alonso
On 2012-11-26 (Monday) 22:15:27 Miroslav Lachman wrote: > [...] > > So a kernel alone has 12MB, with debug symbols 62MB (12+50). > And all *.symbols files can be deleted (if more space on /boot is needed) > I don't know how it should be mentioned in FAQ. > > Miroslav Lachman Specifying WITHOUT_K

Re: Help review the FAQ

2012-11-26 Thread Bas Smeelen
On 11/26/12 22:20, Bas Smeelen wrote: On 11/26/12 22:02, Doug Hardie wrote: On 26 November 2012, at 12:53, Bas Smeelen wrote: On 11/26/12 21:27, Bas Smeelen wrote: On 11/26/12 17:25, Jakub Lach wrote: Thanks! Regarding FAQ, some info about journalling should be added to "Chapter 9 Disks, F

Re: Help review the FAQ

2012-11-26 Thread Bas Smeelen
On 11/26/12 22:15, Miroslav Lachman wrote: Bas Smeelen wrote: On 11/26/12 16:57, Jakub Lach wrote: [...] Thanks Miroslav Lachman for the reply with the correct sizes for GENERIC kernels. Change FAQ 8.3 Why is my kernel so big? Nowadays kernels are compiled in /debug mode by default/. Kernels

Re: Help review the FAQ

2012-11-26 Thread Bas Smeelen
On 11/26/12 22:02, Doug Hardie wrote: On 26 November 2012, at 12:53, Bas Smeelen wrote: On 11/26/12 21:27, Bas Smeelen wrote: On 11/26/12 17:25, Jakub Lach wrote: Thanks! Regarding FAQ, some info about journalling should be added to "Chapter 9 Disks, File Systems, and Boot Loaders", especia

Re: Help review the FAQ

2012-11-26 Thread Miroslav Lachman
Bas Smeelen wrote: On 11/26/12 16:57, Jakub Lach wrote: [...] Thanks Miroslav Lachman for the reply with the correct sizes for GENERIC kernels. Change FAQ 8.3 Why is my kernel so big? Nowadays kernels are compiled in /debug mode by default/. Kernels built in debug mode contain many symbols th

Re: Help review the FAQ

2012-11-26 Thread Doug Hardie
On 26 November 2012, at 12:53, Bas Smeelen wrote: > On 11/26/12 21:27, Bas Smeelen wrote: >> On 11/26/12 17:25, Jakub Lach wrote: >>> Thanks! >>> >>> Regarding FAQ, some info about journalling should be added to >>> "Chapter 9 Disks, File Systems, and Boot Loaders", especially now, >>> when SU+

Re: Help review the FAQ

2012-11-26 Thread Jakub Lach
g, apm is obsolete, no mention of ahci. I think this is more of less complete sketch of power saving facilities in FreeBSD- http://wiki.freebsd.org/TuningPowerConsumption -- View this message in context: http://freebsd.1045724.n5.nabble.com/Help-review-the-FAQ-tp5762326p5764423.html Sen

Re: Help review the FAQ

2012-11-26 Thread Bas Smeelen
On 11/26/12 21:27, Bas Smeelen wrote: On 11/26/12 17:25, Jakub Lach wrote: Thanks! Regarding FAQ, some info about journalling should be added to "Chapter 9 Disks, File Systems, and Boot Loaders", especially now, when SU+J is default. Please also add: SU+J does not work (yet) with dump on a l

Re: Help review the FAQ

2012-11-26 Thread Bas Smeelen
On 11/26/12 16:57, Jakub Lach wrote: As a reminder, this isn't a contest in kernel size :) Didn't mean to, I just put it there to state that 1.5 - 2.5 MB for a GENERIC kernel is not appropriate anymore. More useful would be if somebody would check GENERIC on i386/amd64 for FAQ update. Than

Re: Help review the FAQ

2012-11-26 Thread Bas Smeelen
On 11/26/12 17:25, Jakub Lach wrote: Thanks! Regarding FAQ, some info about journalling should be added to "Chapter 9 Disks, File Systems, and Boot Loaders", especially now, when SU+J is default. Add to FAQ 9.4 Which partitions can safely use Soft Updates? I have heard that Soft Updates on /

Re: Help review the FAQ

2012-11-26 Thread Eitan Adler
On 26 November 2012 11:25, Jakub Lach wrote: > Thanks! > > Regarding FAQ, some info about journalling should be added to > "Chapter 9 Disks, File Systems, and Boot Loaders", especially now, > when SU+J is default. which question does this apply to, or is this a request for new questions? --

Re: Help review the FAQ

2012-11-26 Thread Jakub Lach
Thanks! Regarding FAQ, some info about journalling should be added to "Chapter 9 Disks, File Systems, and Boot Loaders", especially now, when SU+J is default. -- View this message in context: http://freebsd.1045724.n5.nabble.com/Help-review-the-FAQ-tp5762326p5764360.html Sen

Re: Help review the FAQ

2012-11-26 Thread Miroslav Lachman
Jakub Lach wrote: As a reminder, this isn't a contest in kernel size :) More useful would be if somebody would check GENERIC on i386/amd64 for FAQ update. FreeBSD 8.3-RELEASE amd64 GENERIC > ls -lh /boot/kernel/kernel -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel12M May 8 2012 /boot/kernel/kernel FreeBSD

Re: Help review the FAQ

2012-11-26 Thread Jakub Lach
As a reminder, this isn't a contest in kernel size :) More useful would be if somebody would check GENERIC on i386/amd64 for FAQ update. -- View this message in context: http://freebsd.1045724.n5.nabble.com/Help-review-the-FAQ-tp5762326p5764353.html Sent from the freebsd-stable mailing

Re: Help review the FAQ

2012-11-26 Thread Jakub Lach
modules. -- View this message in context: http://freebsd.1045724.n5.nabble.com/Help-review-the-FAQ-tp5762326p5764351.html Sent from the freebsd-stable mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org

Re: Help review the FAQ

2012-11-26 Thread Bas Smeelen
On 11/26/2012 04:26 PM, Volodymyr Kostyrko wrote: 26.11.2012 16:49, Jakub Lach: Absolutely not, it's a heavily stripped custom kernel on this machine on /boot/. Do you call this heavily stripped? :) > ls -la /boot/kernel/kernel -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 5757970 Nov 26 10:57 /boot/kernel/kern

Re: Help review the FAQ

2012-11-26 Thread Volodymyr Kostyrko
26.11.2012 16:49, Jakub Lach: Absolutely not, it's a heavily stripped custom kernel on this machine on /boot/. Do you call this heavily stripped? :) > ls -la /boot/kernel/kernel -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 5757970 Nov 26 10:57 /boot/kernel/kernel However it's very hard to strip kernel further

Re: Help review the FAQ

2012-11-26 Thread Jakub Lach
Absolutely not, it's a heavily stripped custom kernel on this machine on /boot/. I was pointing to that, if my kernel is 9 MB, there's no way GENERIC could be 1.5-2.5 MB. Sorry for confusion. -- View this message in context: http://freebsd.1045724.n5.nabble.com/Help-revi

Re: Help review the FAQ

2012-11-25 Thread Eitan Adler
On 25 November 2012 13:28, Jakub Lach wrote: > Why is my kernel so big? > > "As long as you make sure you follow the steps above, you can build your > kernel normally, and you should notice a fairly large size decrease; most > kernels tend to be around 1.5 MB to 2 MB." > > Not really, stripped amd

Re: Help review the FAQ

2012-11-25 Thread Jakub Lach
ot; Needs rechecking, I doubt it's still applicable. -- View this message in context: http://freebsd.1045724.n5.nabble.com/Help-review-the-FAQ-tp5762326p5764058.html Sent from the freebsd-stable mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ freebsd-sta

Re: Help review the FAQ

2012-11-25 Thread Jakub Lach
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Re: Help review the FAQ

2012-11-25 Thread Jakub Lach
Please include some SSD recommended practice. -- View this message in context: http://freebsd.1045724.n5.nabble.com/Help-review-the-FAQ-tp5762326p5764053.html Sent from the freebsd-stable mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ freebsd-stable

Re: Help review the FAQ

2012-11-23 Thread Lars Engels
Am 23.11.2012 14:54, schrieb Andrea Venturoli: On 11/23/12 10:25, Lars Engels wrote: I've seen that on almost every USB MP3 player, Android mobile phones and on other USB devices that export an internal memory card. BTW, my disk drive is SCSI attached, so it's not an USB-only issue. So, it

Re: Help review the FAQ

2012-11-23 Thread Andrea Venturoli
On 11/23/12 10:25, Lars Engels wrote: I've seen that on almost every USB MP3 player, Android mobile phones and on other USB devices that export an internal memory card. BTW, my disk drive is SCSI attached, so it's not an USB-only issue. But it would be really really really great if someone(

Re: Help review the FAQ

2012-11-23 Thread Lars Engels
Am 19.11.2012 21:07, schrieb Aldis Berjoza: 19.11.2012, 22:04, "Andrea Venturoli" : On 11/19/12 18:44, Eitan Adler wrote:  Hey all,  The FAQ for FreeBSD needs a significant amount of updating and  changing.  The first step in that process is to figure out what needs  to be changed.  If you

Re: Help review the FAQ

2012-11-20 Thread Eitan Adler
On 19 November 2012 15:07, Aldis Berjoza wrote: > > > 19.11.2012, 22:04, "Andrea Venturoli" : >> On 11/19/12 18:44, Eitan Adler wrote: >> >>> Hey all, >>> >>> The FAQ for FreeBSD needs a significant amount of updating and >>> changing. The first step in that process is to figure out what needs

Re: Help review the FAQ

2012-11-19 Thread Aldis Berjoza
19.11.2012, 22:04, "Andrea Venturoli" : > On 11/19/12 18:44, Eitan Adler wrote: > >>  Hey all, >> >>  The FAQ for FreeBSD needs a significant amount of updating and >>  changing.  The first step in that process is to figure out what needs >>  to be changed. >> >>  If you can a take a moment and t

Re: Help review the FAQ

2012-11-19 Thread Andrea Venturoli
On 11/19/12 18:44, Eitan Adler wrote: Hey all, The FAQ for FreeBSD needs a significant amount of updating and changing. The first step in that process is to figure out what needs to be changed. If you can a take a moment and thoroughly review just one question and add your comments and concern

Re: Help review the FAQ

2012-11-19 Thread Andrea Venturoli
On 11/19/12 18:44, Eitan Adler wrote: Hey all, The FAQ for FreeBSD needs a significant amount of updating and changing. The first step in that process is to figure out what needs to be changed. If you can a take a moment and thoroughly review just one question and add your comments and concern

Re: Help review the FAQ

2012-11-19 Thread Mehmet Erol Sanliturk
On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 9:44 AM, Eitan Adler wrote: > Hey all, > > The FAQ for FreeBSD needs a significant amount of updating and > changing. The first step in that process is to figure out what needs > to be changed. > > If you can a take a moment and thoroughly review just one > question and a

Re: Help review the FAQ

2012-11-19 Thread Mehmet Erol Sanliturk
On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 9:44 AM, Eitan Adler wrote: > Hey all, > > The FAQ for FreeBSD needs a significant amount of updating and > changing. The first step in that process is to figure out what needs > to be changed. > > If you can a take a moment and thoroughly review just one > question and a

Help review the FAQ

2012-11-19 Thread Eitan Adler
Hey all, The FAQ for FreeBSD needs a significant amount of updating and changing. The first step in that process is to figure out what needs to be changed. If you can a take a moment and thoroughly review just one question and add your comments and concerns it would be immensely helpful. http:/