Re: What's new on the 127.0.0/24 block in 7?

2008-03-04 Thread Chris H.
Quoting Mark Andrews [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Quoting Mark Andrews [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Quoting Andy Dills [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Mon, 3 Mar 2008, Chris H. wrote: Are you sure it's a /24 you are talking about? My 7.0 disks install 127.0.0.1/8 here. Really? Where did you get the

Re: What's new on the 127.0.0/24 block in 7?

2008-03-04 Thread Kris Kennaway
Chris H. wrote: Greetings, I'm having some difficulty working with anything past 127.0.0.1. It seems impossible to use (create) any addresses on the loopback past 127.0.0.1. What evidence do you have for this? Show your ifconfig commands, etc. I use 127/8 addresses all the time without

Re: What's new on the 127.0.0/24 block in 7?

2008-03-04 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Tue, Mar 04, 2008 at 12:03:20AM -0800, Chris H. wrote: I have absolutely no idea why FBSD v7 (on 2 machines) will only dole out 127.0.0.1, while all my other servers running RELENG_6 all dole out a /minimum/ of 127.0.0.1/8 by default. But, having just now modified the default rc for

Re: What's new on the 127.0.0/24 block in 7?

2008-03-04 Thread Chris H.
Quoting Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Chris H. wrote: Greetings, I'm having some difficulty working with anything past 127.0.0.1. It seems impossible to use (create) any addresses on the loopback past 127.0.0.1. What evidence do you have for this? Show your ifconfig commands, etc.

Re: What's new on the 127.0.0/24 block in 7?

2008-03-04 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Tue, Mar 04, 2008 at 01:52:46AM -0800, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: If you put a machine on that network as 192.168.1.200, and give it a netmask of 255.255.255.0, it will respond to any packets destined to 192.168.1.100 (obviously), but will also respond to packets destined to the broadcast

Re: What's new on the 127.0.0/24 block in 7?

2008-03-04 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Tue, Mar 04, 2008 at 01:52:46AM -0800, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: If you then put another box on the network as 192.168.1.7, and give it a netmask of 255.255.255.128 (/25), it should not be able to see 192.168.1.200. Broadcast packets from 192.168.1.7 would be going to 192.168.1.128 (its view

Re: What's new on the 127.0.0/24 block in 7?

2008-03-04 Thread Tom Evans
On Tue, 2008-03-04 at 00:03 -0800, Chris H. wrote: Hello Mark. Thank you for your thoughtful reply. FWIW I'm hosting my own zone, out of my domain's address using a different host name. I'm simply forwarding the requests to a different port, so as to prevent port collision with the BIND. The

Re: What's new on the 127.0.0/24 block in 7?

2008-03-04 Thread Chris H.
Quoting Jeremy Chadwick [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Tue, Mar 04, 2008 at 12:03:20AM -0800, Chris H. wrote: I have absolutely no idea why FBSD v7 (on 2 machines) will only dole out 127.0.0.1, while all my other servers running RELENG_6 all dole out a /minimum/ of 127.0.0.1/8 by default. But, having

Re: What's new on the 127.0.0/24 block in 7?

2008-03-04 Thread Chris H.
Quoting Tom Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Tue, 2008-03-04 at 00:03 -0800, Chris H. wrote: Hello Mark. Thank you for your thoughtful reply. FWIW I'm hosting my own zone, out of my domain's address using a different host name. I'm simply forwarding the requests to a different port, so as to

Re: What's new on the 127.0.0/24 block in 7?

2008-03-04 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Tue, Mar 04, 2008 at 02:23:21AM -0800, Chris H. wrote: What I am having absolutely no understanding of; is why do 2 FBSD servers sharing the same setups, and the same stock lo0 setups react /completely/ differently than each other, when the only difference is the version of FBSD, and the

Re: What's new on the 127.0.0/24 block in 7?

2008-03-04 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Tue, Mar 04, 2008 at 02:48:31AM -0800, Chris H. wrote: In long; Both servers have the same (and only) entry: /etc/defaults/rc.conf: ifconfig_lo0=inet 127.0.0.1 no more, no less. The RELENG_6 server reports: lo0: flags=8049UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING,MULTICAST mtu 16384 inet 127.0.0.1

Re: What's new on the 127.0.0/24 block in 7?

2008-03-04 Thread Chris H.
Quoting Jeremy Chadwick [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Tue, Mar 04, 2008 at 02:23:21AM -0800, Chris H. wrote: What I am having absolutely no understanding of; is why do 2 FBSD servers sharing the same setups, and the same stock lo0 setups react /completely/ differently than each other, when the only

Re: What's new on the 127.0.0/24 block in 7?

2008-03-04 Thread Chris H.
Quoting Jeremy Chadwick [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Tue, Mar 04, 2008 at 02:48:31AM -0800, Chris H. wrote: In long; Both servers have the same (and only) entry: /etc/defaults/rc.conf: ifconfig_lo0=inet 127.0.0.1 no more, no less. The RELENG_6 server reports: lo0:

Re: What's new on the 127.0.0/24 block in 7?

2008-03-04 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Chris H. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yes, adding an entry in /etc/rc.conf that provides 254 IP's now reveals: lo0: flags=8049UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING,MULTICAST metric 0 mtu 16384 inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x3inet 127.0.0.1 netmask

Re: What's new on the 127.0.0/24 block in 7?

2008-03-04 Thread Greg Black
On 2008-03-04, Chris H. wrote: Yes, adding an entry in /etc/rc.conf that provides 254 IP's now reveals: lo0: flags=8049UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING,MULTICAST metric 0 mtu 16384 inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x3inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff00

Re: What's new on the 127.0.0/24 block in 7?

2008-03-04 Thread Scott Lambert
On Tue, Mar 04, 2008 at 03:22:00AM -0800, Chris H. wrote: No. It's not a matter of holding back. I really don't want to spam the stable list with ports litter. My main concern/question was in figuring out why 2 identical server configs would react so differently in the way they handle lo0 and

Re: What's new on the 127.0.0/24 block in 7?

2008-03-04 Thread Chris H.
Quoting Lowell Gilbert [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Chris H. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yes, adding an entry in /etc/rc.conf that provides 254 IP's now reveals: lo0: flags=8049UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING,MULTICAST metric 0 mtu 16384 inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid

Re: What's new on the 127.0.0/24 block in 7?

2008-03-04 Thread Chris H.
Quoting Chris H. [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Quoting Lowell Gilbert [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Chris H. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yes, adding an entry in /etc/rc.conf that provides 254 IP's now reveals: lo0: flags=8049UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING,MULTICAST metric 0 mtu 16384 inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128

Re: What's new on the 127.0.0/24 block in 7?

2008-03-04 Thread Chris H.
Quoting Greg Black [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 2008-03-04, Chris H. wrote: Yes, adding an entry in /etc/rc.conf that provides 254 IP's now reveals: lo0: flags=8049UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING,MULTICAST metric 0 mtu 16384 inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x3

Re: What's new on the 127.0.0/24 block in 7?

2008-03-04 Thread Andy Dills
Just to provide a little information in case there is still confusion... On Tue, 4 Mar 2008, Chris H. wrote: Quoting Greg Black [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 2008-03-04, Chris H. wrote: Yes, adding an entry in /etc/rc.conf that provides 254 IP's now reveals: lo0:

What's new on the 127.0.0/24 block in 7?

2008-03-03 Thread Chris H.
Greetings, I'm having some difficulty working with anything past 127.0.0.1. It seems impossible to use (create) any addresses on the loopback past 127.0.0.1. More specifically; I installed rbldnsd from ports, and it worked quite well on a 6.x install. However, attempting the same config/install

Re: What's new on the 127.0.0/24 block in 7?

2008-03-03 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Mon, Mar 03, 2008 at 05:43:35PM -0800, Chris H. wrote: Greetings, I'm having some difficulty working with anything past 127.0.0.1. It seems impossible to use (create) any addresses on the loopback past 127.0.0.1. More specifically; I installed rbldnsd from ports, and it worked quite well

Re: What's new on the 127.0.0/24 block in 7?

2008-03-03 Thread Andy Dills
On Mon, 3 Mar 2008, Chris H. wrote: Greetings, I'm having some difficulty working with anything past 127.0.0.1. It seems impossible to use (create) any addresses on the loopback past 127.0.0.1. More specifically; I installed rbldnsd from ports, and it worked quite well on a 6.x install.

Re: What's new on the 127.0.0/24 block in 7?

2008-03-03 Thread Chris H.
Hello Jeremy, and thank you for your reply. Quoting Jeremy Chadwick [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Mon, Mar 03, 2008 at 05:43:35PM -0800, Chris H. wrote: Greetings, I'm having some difficulty working with anything past 127.0.0.1. It seems impossible to use (create) any addresses on the loopback past

Re: What's new on the 127.0.0/24 block in 7?

2008-03-03 Thread Chris H.
Quoting Andy Dills [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Mon, 3 Mar 2008, Chris H. wrote: Greetings, I'm having some difficulty working with anything past 127.0.0.1. It seems impossible to use (create) any addresses on the loopback past 127.0.0.1. More specifically; I installed rbldnsd from ports, and it

Re: What's new on the 127.0.0/24 block in 7?

2008-03-03 Thread Edwin Groothuis
On Mon, Mar 03, 2008 at 07:23:59PM -0800, Chris H. wrote: Quoting Andy Dills [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Mon, 3 Mar 2008, Chris H. wrote: Greetings, I'm having some difficulty working with anything past 127.0.0.1. It seems impossible to use (create) any addresses on the loopback past

Re: What's new on the 127.0.0/24 block in 7?

2008-03-03 Thread Chris H.
Quoting Royce Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Jeremy Chadwick wrote, on 3/3/2008 5:21 PM: On Mon, Mar 03, 2008 at 05:43:35PM -0800, Chris H. wrote: I've looked at this software: http://www.corpit.ru/mjt/rbldnsd.html Why exactly do you need this software to bind to 127.0.0.2 or 127.0.0.3? I don't

Re: What's new on the 127.0.0/24 block in 7?

2008-03-03 Thread Royce Williams
Jeremy Chadwick wrote, on 3/3/2008 5:21 PM: On Mon, Mar 03, 2008 at 05:43:35PM -0800, Chris H. wrote: I've looked at this software: http://www.corpit.ru/mjt/rbldnsd.html Why exactly do you need this software to bind to 127.0.0.2 or 127.0.0.3? I don't see any indication of it needing that.

Re: What's new on the 127.0.0/24 block in 7?

2008-03-03 Thread Mark Andrews
Hello Jeremy, and thank you for your reply. Quoting Jeremy Chadwick [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Mon, Mar 03, 2008 at 05:43:35PM -0800, Chris H. wrote: Greetings, I'm having some difficulty working with anything past 127.0.0.1. It seems impossible to use (create) any addresses on the

Re: What's new on the 127.0.0/24 block in 7?

2008-03-03 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Tue, Mar 04, 2008 at 02:29:20PM +1100, Edwin Groothuis wrote: Are you sure it's a /24 you are talking about? My 7.0 disks install 127.0.0.1/8 here. Ditto. And our RELENG_6 production servers are the same. -- | Jeremy Chadwickjdc at parodius.com | |

Re: What's new on the 127.0.0/24 block in 7?

2008-03-03 Thread Chris H.
Quoting Edwin Groothuis [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Mon, Mar 03, 2008 at 07:23:59PM -0800, Chris H. wrote: Quoting Andy Dills [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Mon, 3 Mar 2008, Chris H. wrote: Greetings, I'm having some difficulty working with anything past 127.0.0.1. It seems impossible to use (create) any

Re: What's new on the 127.0.0/24 block in 7?

2008-03-03 Thread Mark Andrews
Quoting Royce Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Jeremy Chadwick wrote, on 3/3/2008 5:21 PM: On Mon, Mar 03, 2008 at 05:43:35PM -0800, Chris H. wrote: I've looked at this software: http://www.corpit.ru/mjt/rbldnsd.html Why exactly do you need this software to bind to 127.0.0.2 or 127.0.0.3?

Re: What's new on the 127.0.0/24 block in 7?

2008-03-03 Thread Edwin Groothuis
On Mon, Mar 03, 2008 at 07:39:44PM -0800, Chris H. wrote: Quoting Edwin Groothuis [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Mon, Mar 03, 2008 at 07:23:59PM -0800, Chris H. wrote: Quoting Andy Dills [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Mon, 3 Mar 2008, Chris H. wrote: Greetings, I'm having some difficulty working with

Re: What's new on the 127.0.0/24 block in 7?

2008-03-03 Thread Andy Dills
On Mon, 3 Mar 2008, Chris H. wrote: Are you sure it's a /24 you are talking about? My 7.0 disks install 127.0.0.1/8 here. Really? Where did you get the install disc? Mine clearly doesn't. :( All I am provided is 127.0.0.1 - not 127.0.0.2,3... 127.0.0.1/8 just means 127.0.0.1 with a

Re: What's new on the 127.0.0/24 block in 7?

2008-03-03 Thread Chris H.
Quoting Andy Dills [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Mon, 3 Mar 2008, Chris H. wrote: Are you sure it's a /24 you are talking about? My 7.0 disks install 127.0.0.1/8 here. Really? Where did you get the install disc? Mine clearly doesn't. :( All I am provided is 127.0.0.1 - not 127.0.0.2,3...

Re: What's new on the 127.0.0/24 block in 7?

2008-03-03 Thread Chris H.
Quoting Mark Andrews [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Quoting Andy Dills [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Mon, 3 Mar 2008, Chris H. wrote: Are you sure it's a /24 you are talking about? My 7.0 disks install 127.0.0.1/8 here. Really? Where did you get the install disc? Mine clearly doesn't. :( All I am

Re: What's new on the 127.0.0/24 block in 7?

2008-03-03 Thread Chris H.
Quoting Mark Andrews [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello Jeremy, and thank you for your reply. Quoting Jeremy Chadwick [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Mon, Mar 03, 2008 at 05:43:35PM -0800, Chris H. wrote: Greetings, I'm having some difficulty working with anything past 127.0.0.1. It seems impossible to use

Re: What's new on the 127.0.0/24 block in 7?

2008-03-03 Thread Mark Andrews
Quoting Andy Dills [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Mon, 3 Mar 2008, Chris H. wrote: Are you sure it's a /24 you are talking about? My 7.0 disks install 127.0.0.1/8 here. Really? Where did you get the install disc? Mine clearly doesn't. :( All I am provided is 127.0.0.1 - not

Re: What's new on the 127.0.0/24 block in 7?

2008-03-03 Thread Mark Andrews
Quoting Mark Andrews [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Quoting Andy Dills [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Mon, 3 Mar 2008, Chris H. wrote: Are you sure it's a /24 you are talking about? My 7.0 disks install 127.0.0.1/8 here. Really? Where did you get the install disc? Mine clearly doesn't. :(