Re: ntpd just sits there and does nothing

2007-08-05 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Oliver Fromme [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: : [LoN]Kamikaze [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: : My original intention was just to say that openntpd works just out of the box, : while ntpd doesn't. : : That's just plain wrong. ntpd _does_ work out of the box :

Re: ntpd just sits there and does nothing

2007-07-23 Thread [LoN]Kamikaze
My original intention was just to say that openntpd works just out of the box, while ntpd doesn't. And since openntpd works fine for me, I am not really interested in resolving this. Anyway since so many of you seem to be, here is the requested data: ntp.conf server 0.de.pool.ntp.org minpoll 4

Re: ntpd just sits there and does nothing

2007-07-23 Thread Matthew Seaman
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 [LoN]Kamikaze wrote: My original intention was just to say that openntpd works just out of the box, while ntpd doesn't. And since openntpd works fine for me, I am not really interested in resolving this. Anyway since so many of you seem to be,

Re: ntpd just sits there and does nothing

2007-07-23 Thread Oliver Fromme
[LoN]Kamikaze [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My original intention was just to say that openntpd works just out of the box, while ntpd doesn't. That's just plain wrong. ntpd _does_ work out of the box (unless your configuration is broken), and it seems to be more accurate than openntpd.

Re: ntpd just sits there and does nothing

2007-07-23 Thread Sean C. Farley
On Mon, 23 Jul 2007, Matthew Seaman wrote: [LoN]Kamikaze wrote: My original intention was just to say that openntpd works just out of the box, while ntpd doesn't. And since openntpd works fine for me, I am not really interested in resolving this. Anyway since so many of you seem to be, here is

Re: ntpd just sits there and does nothing

2007-07-23 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Mon, Jul 23, 2007 at 09:39:32AM -0500, Sean C. Farley wrote: Do you actually need to open it up that way? I have this on my server which seems to work: You don't *need* to. The method he described allows you to avoid having to make a restrict entry for each matching server, that's all.

Re: ntpd just sits there and does nothing

2007-07-23 Thread [LoN]Kamikaze
Oliver Fromme wrote: [LoN]Kamikaze [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My original intention was just to say that openntpd works just out of the box, while ntpd doesn't. That's just plain wrong. ntpd _does_ work out of the box (unless your configuration is broken), and it seems to be more

Re: ntpd just sits there and does nothing

2007-07-23 Thread Chuck Swiger
On Jul 23, 2007, at 7:10 AM, Oliver Fromme wrote: [LoN]Kamikaze [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: server 0.de.pool.ntp.org minpoll 4 maxpoll 8 server 1.de.pool.ntp.org minpoll 4 maxpoll 8 server 2.de.pool.ntp.org minpoll 4 maxpoll 8 server ntp1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de minpoll 4 maxpoll 8 server

Re: ntpd just sits there and does nothing

2007-07-23 Thread [LoN]Kamikaze
Chuck Swiger wrote: On Jul 23, 2007, at 7:10 AM, Oliver Fromme wrote: [LoN]Kamikaze [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: server 0.de.pool.ntp.org minpoll 4 maxpoll 8 server 1.de.pool.ntp.org minpoll 4 maxpoll 8 server 2.de.pool.ntp.org minpoll 4 maxpoll 8 server ntp1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de minpoll 4

Re: ntpd just sits there and does nothing

2007-07-23 Thread Chuck Swiger
On Jul 23, 2007, at 12:22 PM, [LoN]Kamikaze wrote: I wish to second what Oliver has said, only more strongly: using minpoll 4 is considered abusive and a misuse of the NTP pool. From http://www.pool.ntp.org/use.html That was only for testing. Please use your own timeservers for testing, not

Re: ntpd just sits there and does nothing

2007-07-23 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Mon, Jul 23, 2007 at 12:18:59PM -0700, Chuck Swiger wrote: No machine should ever poll faster than once a minute (aka minpoll 8) to someone else's timeserver without prior agreement. For an example of a reasonable client config, MacOS X uses a minpoll of 12 and a maxpoll of 17. And an

Re: ntpd just sits there and does nothing

2007-07-22 Thread doug
On Sat, 21 Jul 2007, Kevin Oberman wrote: Hi, [LoN]Kamikaze wrote: Doug Hardie wrote: On Jul 19, 2007, at 10:08, [LoN]Kamikaze wrote: As the subject says, on my 6-stable systems ntpd just sits there and does nothing. The logs only mention when the daemon gets started or shut down

Re: ntpd just sits there and does nothing

2007-07-21 Thread Kevin Oberman
Hi, [LoN]Kamikaze wrote: Doug Hardie wrote: On Jul 19, 2007, at 10:08, [LoN]Kamikaze wrote: As the subject says, on my 6-stable systems ntpd just sits there and does nothing. The logs only mention when the daemon gets started or shut down. It complains when servers

Re: ntpd just sits there and does nothing

2007-07-20 Thread Stefan Lambrev
Hi, [LoN]Kamikaze wrote: Doug Hardie wrote: On Jul 19, 2007, at 10:08, [LoN]Kamikaze wrote: As the subject says, on my 6-stable systems ntpd just sits there and does nothing. The logs only mention when the daemon gets started or shut down. It complains when servers are not reachable

Re: ntpd just sits there and does nothing

2007-07-20 Thread [LoN]Kamikaze
Stefan Lambrev wrote: Hi, [LoN]Kamikaze wrote: Doug Hardie wrote: On Jul 19, 2007, at 10:08, [LoN]Kamikaze wrote: As the subject says, on my 6-stable systems ntpd just sits there and does nothing. The logs only mention when the daemon gets started or shut down. It complains

Re: ntpd just sits there and does nothing

2007-07-20 Thread Vince
Can you send the output of ntp.conf? [LoN]Kamikaze wrote: Stefan Lambrev wrote: Hi, [LoN]Kamikaze wrote: Doug Hardie wrote: On Jul 19, 2007, at 10:08, [LoN]Kamikaze wrote: As the subject says, on my 6-stable systems ntpd just sits there and does nothing. The logs only mention

Re: ntpd just sits there and does nothing

2007-07-20 Thread David Wolfskill
On Fri, Jul 20, 2007 at 10:37:14AM +0300, Stefan Lambrev wrote: ... ntpd will not change time if the difference is too big - I think it should be less then 1000s. ntpdate will :) ... Please try to be a little more careful: the above is incorrect. From ntpd(8): -g Normally, ntpd

Re: ntpd just sits there and does nothing

2007-07-20 Thread Vivek Khera
On Jul 20, 2007, at 3:37 AM, Stefan Lambrev wrote: Other problem that I see is if you are behind NAT/firewall. Because ntpd make a request and wait for response on different port, so check your firewall configuration and blocked packets. we have zero problems with ntpd behind a NAT

ntpd just sits there and does nothing

2007-07-19 Thread [LoN]Kamikaze
As the subject says, on my 6-stable systems ntpd just sits there and does nothing. The logs only mention when the daemon gets started or shut down. It complains when servers are not reachable, but does nothing when they are available. The drift file always contains 0.00. ntpdate and openntpd

Re: ntpd just sits there and does nothing

2007-07-19 Thread David Wolfskill
On Thu, Jul 19, 2007 at 07:08:21PM +0200, [LoN]Kamikaze wrote: As the subject says, on my 6-stable systems ntpd just sits there and does nothing It seems what ntpd has in complexity it lacks in robustness. I'd prefer to have openntpd in the base system. It seems to be very simple

Re: ntpd just sits there and does nothing

2007-07-19 Thread Doug Hardie
On Jul 19, 2007, at 10:08, [LoN]Kamikaze wrote: As the subject says, on my 6-stable systems ntpd just sits there and does nothing. The logs only mention when the daemon gets started or shut down. It complains when servers are not reachable, but does nothing when they are available

Re: ntpd just sits there and does nothing

2007-07-19 Thread [LoN]Kamikaze
Doug Hardie wrote: On Jul 19, 2007, at 10:08, [LoN]Kamikaze wrote: As the subject says, on my 6-stable systems ntpd just sits there and does nothing. The logs only mention when the daemon gets started or shut down. It complains when servers are not reachable, but does nothing when

Re: ntpd just sits there and does nothing

2007-07-19 Thread Nicolas Rachinsky
* Doug Hardie [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-07-19 10:32 -0700]: Are you on a static IP address? If not, ntpd obtains its IP address when it starts up and uses it forever. If your IP address changes then it will not be able to communicate with the upstream ntp servers. It has to be

Re: ntpd just sits there and does nothing

2007-07-19 Thread Peter Jeremy
On 2007-Jul-19 19:08:21 +0200, [LoN]Kamikaze [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As the subject says, on my 6-stable systems ntpd just sits there and does nothing. The logs only mention when the daemon gets started or shut down. It complains when servers are not reachable, but does nothing when