BHyVe - ESXi comparison

2014-01-28 Thread Andrea Brancatelli
Hello everybody. We did a very rough comparison betweend BHyVe and VMWare ESXi. Maybe you want to give it a read and let me know if I did write a bunch of sh!t :-) http://andrea.brancatelli.it/2014/01/28/freebsd-10-0-bhyve-vmware-esxi-5-5-comparison/ I must say I'm very pleased with BHyVe perfor

Re: BHyVe - ESXi comparison

2014-01-28 Thread Łukasz Wąsikowski
W dniu 2014-01-28 12:18, Andrea Brancatelli pisze: > We did a very rough comparison betweend BHyVe and VMWare ESXi. Maybe you > want to give it a read and let me know if I did write a bunch of sh!t :-) > > http://andrea.brancatelli.it/2014/01/28/freebsd-10-0-bhyve-vmware-esxi-5-5-comparison/ > >

Re: BHyVe - ESXi comparison

2014-01-28 Thread Matthias Gamsjager
And lets not forget the head start vmware has (bhyve is what? 1-2 years old?) and the size of it. Less then 1mb in code. On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 12:27 PM, Łukasz Wąsikowski wrote: > W dniu 2014-01-28 12:18, Andrea Brancatelli pisze: > > > We did a very rough comparison betweend BHyVe and VMWare

Re: BHyVe - ESXi comparison

2014-01-28 Thread Andrea Brancatelli
OK, I changed that, thanks for your feedback, my assumption was something like "with bhyve it took the 106% of the time it took with VMWare", but probably the approach of "bhyve being 6% slower" is clearer. On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 12:27 PM, Łukasz Wąsikowski wrote: > W dniu 2014-01-28 12:18, And

Re: BHyVe - ESXi comparison

2014-01-28 Thread Andrea Brancatelli
Yes, I tried to emphasized that both at the beginning and at the end of the post... On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 12:39 PM, Matthias Gamsjager wrote: > And lets not forget the head start vmware has (bhyve is what? 1-2 years > old?) and the size of it. Less then 1mb in code. > > > On Tue, Jan 28, 2014

Re: BHyVe - ESXi comparison

2014-01-28 Thread Łukasz Wąsikowski
W dniu 2014-01-28 12:52, Andrea Brancatelli pisze: > OK, I changed that, thanks for your feedback, my assumption was > something like "with bhyve it took the 106% of the time it took with > VMWare", but probably the approach of "bhyve being 6% slower" is clearer. I think so too. Thank you for tes

Re: BHyVe - ESXi comparison

2014-01-28 Thread Mark Martinec
http://andrea.brancatelli.it/2014/01/28/freebsd-10-0-bhyve-vmware-esxi-5-5-comparison/ the seconds you see is a medium of all the values from the different machines medium??? A median or an average? If you have any question on the datas Plural of datum is data, not datas. Mark __

Re: BHyVe - ESXi comparison

2014-01-28 Thread Andrea Brancatelli
Fixed, thanks. On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 1:16 PM, Mark Martinec wrote: > http://andrea.brancatelli.it/2014/01/28/freebsd-10-0-bhyve- >> vmware-esxi-5-5-comparison/ >> > > the seconds you see is a medium of all the values from the different >> machines >> > > medium??? A median or an average? >

Re: BHyVe - ESXi comparison

2014-01-28 Thread Andrea Brancatelli
I'd have to find a different workload (compiling a port under linux makes no sense), but that something I was already thinking about. Anybody has any idea about that? It must be something that get's done the same way (so for example if we are compiling it has to be gcc vs. gcc, but gcc is not the

Re: BHyVe - ESXi comparison

2014-01-28 Thread Lars Engels
Am 2014-01-28 13:21, schrieb Andrea Brancatelli: Fixed, thanks. Could you also compare two instances of Linux inside bhyve and VMware? ___ freebsd-virtualization@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-virtualizatio

Re: BHyVe - ESXi comparison

2014-01-28 Thread Andrea Brancatelli
Oh sorry you mean linux vs. linux! Then yes, I can do that! On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 4:02 PM, Andrea Brancatelli < abrancate...@schema31.it> wrote: > I'd have to find a different workload (compiling a port under linux makes > no sense), but that something I was already thinking about. > > Anybod

Re: BHyVe - ESXi comparison

2014-01-28 Thread Peter Grehan
Hi Andrea, We did a very rough comparison betweend BHyVe and VMWare ESXi. Maybe you want to give it a read and let me know if I did write a bunch of sh!t :-) Looks good to me :) Thanks for running the tests. Would you be able to list the command options you used with bhyve when running the

Re: BHyVe - ESXi comparison

2014-01-28 Thread Michael Berman
parsec and stresslinux may be of interest. On 1/28/14, 7:02 AM, "Andrea Brancatelli" wrote: >I'd have to find a different workload (compiling a port under linux makes >no sense), but that something I was already thinking about. > >Anybody has any idea about that? It must be something that get's

Re: BHyVe - ESXi comparison

2014-01-28 Thread Neel Natu
Hi Andrea, On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 3:18 AM, Andrea Brancatelli wrote: > Hello everybody. > > We did a very rough comparison betweend BHyVe and VMWare ESXi. Maybe you > want to give it a read and let me know if I did write a bunch of sh!t :-) > Looks good to me :-) > http://andrea.brancatelli.it

Re: BHyVe - ESXi comparison

2014-01-28 Thread Andrea Brancatelli
Hello Peter, unfortunately we've been a bit sloppy in tracking the time output because initially it was just an internal test, thus we don't have the details. We're setting up a new round of tests we'll run tomorrow and we'll track user/system/real in a more precise way; I will also publish a gra

Re: BHyVe - ESXi comparison

2014-01-28 Thread Andrea Brancatelli
Unfortunately these are pre-production environments thus installing something fancy wasn't in our scope. If I can allocate some time and some hardware I'll try to. On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 5:49 PM, Neel Natu wrote: > Hi Andrea, > > On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 3:18 AM, Andrea Brancatelli > wrote: >

Re: BHyVe - ESXi comparison

2014-01-28 Thread Andrea Brancatelli
OK, tomorrow I'll check. Today we tried the standard "compile" approach, compiling PERL to have something that would work at least a few minutes. To give you a fast anticipation, debian on bhyve took 2 minutes 23, while debian on vmware took 2 minutes and 7 seconds. Will update my post tomorrow

Re: BHyVe - ESXi comparison

2014-01-28 Thread Aryeh Friedman
On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 11:10 AM, Peter Grehan wrote: > Hi Andrea, > > > We did a very rough comparison betweend BHyVe and VMWare ESXi. Maybe >> you want to give it a read and let me know if I did write a bunch of >> sh!t :-) >> > > Looks good to me :) Thanks for running the tests. > > Would y

Re: BHyVe - ESXi comparison

2014-01-28 Thread Aryeh Friedman
It would be interesting to know to how much and what extent various fronends (openstack, cloudstack, petitecloud, etc.) effect performence... I suspect that even though bhyve is slower then VMWare that VMWare's front end is the cause and not VMWare itself for example I suspect that bhyve with p

Re: BHyVe - ESXi comparison

2014-01-28 Thread Aryeh Friedman
I have observed Ubuntu 12.04 LTS runs faster as a VM under bhyve the in does on bare metal (networking seems to be one of the key areas here as well as disk access) On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 9:57 AM, Lars Engels wrote: > Am 2014-01-28 13:21, schrieb Andrea Brancatelli: > >> Fixed, thanks. >> >> >

Re: BHyVe - ESXi comparison

2014-01-28 Thread Peter Grehan
Hi Andrea, unfortunately we've been a bit sloppy in tracking the time output because initially it was just an internal test, thus we don't have the details. No problems. We're setting up a new round of tests we'll run tomorrow and we'll track user/system/real in a more precise way; I will a

Re: BHyVe - ESXi comparison

2014-01-28 Thread Andrea Brancatelli
What do you exactly mean with frontend? ESXi has no front end, that's the difference with ESX, it's just a bare hypervisor. On the contrary I think that having to host a java application in the machine acting as an hypervisor is pretty crazy, especially considered java madness with memory, swap

Fwd: BHyVe - ESXi comparison

2014-01-28 Thread Aryeh Friedman
I forgot to mention in the original post that one process is nothing compared to the 20 or so that openstack needs -- Forwarded message -- From: Aryeh Friedman Date: Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 4:04 PM Subject: Re: BHyVe - ESXi comparison To: Andrea Brancatelli the java is nothing

Re: BHyVe - ESXi comparison

2014-01-28 Thread Andrea Brancatelli
That's a lot of interesting input. Tomorrow we'll rearrange everything and redo all the testing. On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 9:50 PM, Peter Grehan wrote: > Hi Andrea, > > > unfortunately we've been a bit sloppy in tracking the time output >> because initially it was just an internal test, thus we

Re: BHyVe - ESXi comparison

2014-01-28 Thread Peter Grehan
Tomorrow we'll rearrange everything and redo all the testing. One more item: when running the test with 20 x 2-vCPU VMs, make sure that the "-P" option is being used. This forces bhyve to do a vmexit when a PAUSE instruction is hit e.g. when the locking code starts spinning. This gives the s

Re: BHyVe - ESXi comparison

2014-01-28 Thread Michael Dexter
On 1/28/14 4:10 PM, Andrea Brancatelli wrote: > That's a lot of interesting input. Do try the ahci-hd VirtIO and may I suggest you update "BHyVe" to the current "bhyve"? It is the first point on the FAQ: http://bhyve.org/faq/ Michael ___ freebsd-virtual

bhyve - ESXi comparison part 2

2014-01-31 Thread Andrea Brancatelli
Hello everybody. Here comes the part 2 of our bhyve - ESXi comparison. It took a bit longer than I expected but time flies when you have to wait 1 hour to have some results. Have a good read, if you have any question or suggestion feel free to contact me. http://andrea.brancatelli.it/2014/01

Re: bhyve - ESXi comparison part 2

2014-01-31 Thread Peter Grehan
Hi Andrea, > Here comes the part 2 of our bhyve - ESXi comparison. Excellent work :) My take is that there is more general hypervisor overhead with bhyve. Given that both user and system times from the benchmark are almost uniformally larger for bhyve in all tests points to this. There