Re: [Freedombox-discuss] Roadmap / Wishlists

2011-04-18 Thread Sandy Harris
On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 1:02 PM, AnotherPeasant wrote: > Do you remember where that study was, or have a link? Here's one link, from another list. I doubt that this is the only study in the area, but it is the only one I know. From: Alexander Klimov Date: Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 5:48 PM Subject:

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] Roadmap / Wishlists

2011-04-18 Thread AnotherPeasant
On 04/18/2011 11:08 PM, John Gilmore wrote: I know there's a BASH prog called "shred" that will do some of what I have in mind, but I haven't had the chance or the spare box to experiment with it. The short answer is that it doesn't work at all on flash drives. Researchers tried it, disassembled

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] Roadmap / Wishlists

2011-04-18 Thread John Gilmore
> I know there's a > BASH prog called "shred" that will do some of what I have in mind, but I > haven't had the chance or the spare box to experiment with it. The short answer is that it doesn't work at all on flash drives. Researchers tried it, disassembled the drives, and found their 'erased'

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] Roadmap / Wishlists

2011-04-18 Thread AnotherPeasant
On 04/18/2011 03:37 PM, The Doctor wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/16/2011 09:35 PM, Charles N Wyble wrote: So just have a USB/SD card whatever with passphrase protected key on it. Make this the only copy of the decryption key. Have it and a small hammer or other des

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] A software architecture for the FreedomBox

2011-04-18 Thread Bdale Garbee
On Mon, 18 Apr 2011 21:34:53 +0200, Rob van der Hoeven wrote: > The virtualized containers in my design have the following purposes Yep, I get it. I'm just worried about focus and scope right now. One of the things I continue to wrestle with is where the boundary should be between "the Freedom

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] A software architecture for the FreedomBox

2011-04-18 Thread Charles N Wyble
On 4/18/2011 11:49 AM, Bdale Garbee wrote: On Thu, 14 Apr 2011 11:06:46 -0500, Charles N Wyble wrote: This is exactly the experience that Debian already provides. All software is packaged, packages can be installed and removed as desired, and the packaging includes strong dependency management

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] Roadmap / Wishlists

2011-04-18 Thread The Doctor
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/16/2011 09:35 PM, Charles N Wyble wrote: > So just have a USB/SD card whatever with passphrase protected key on it. > Make this the only > copy of the decryption key. Have it and a small hammer or other > destructive instrument on you > at all t

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] Roadmap / Wishlists

2011-04-18 Thread The Doctor
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/16/2011 08:35 PM, Sandy Harris wrote: > Deletion is not the only way. Any encrypted data can be made unreadable > instantly simply by destroying the key. This is much faster, but it does not > provide deniability. If you are dealing with people

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] A software architecture for the FreedomBox

2011-04-18 Thread Rob van der Hoeven
On Mon, 2011-04-18 at 10:49 -0600, Bdale Garbee wrote: > On Thu, 14 Apr 2011 11:06:46 -0500, Charles N Wyble > wrote: > > Yes of course. You are absolutely right. I was thinking of having the > > stack be remixed, but I like your idea of having a base stack and then > > folks deploy on top of

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] Fwd: Re: Roadmap / Wishlists

2011-04-18 Thread Jonathan Zeppettini
Secure deletion does not seem like a real issue as Debian has long had an option for encrypted LVM in the installer. If one of the project's goals is being able to easily recover from the loss of your FB by acquiring another and providing the necessary credentials to restore your data from peers ho

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] A software architecture for the FreedomBox

2011-04-18 Thread Bdale Garbee
On Thu, 14 Apr 2011 11:06:46 -0500, Charles N Wyble wrote: > Yes of course. You are absolutely right. I was thinking of having the > stack be remixed, but I like your idea of having a base stack and then > folks deploy on top of it via some sort of "app store" interface. The > main reason for

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] T-shirt / Logo idea

2011-04-18 Thread Nicolás Reynolds
El 17/04/11 12:50, Joshua Spodek dijo: > On Thu, 2011-03-24 at 18:08 +, > freedombox-discuss-requ...@lists.alioth.debian.org wrote: > > T-Shirt Designs > > --- > > > > One of the things we offered Kickstarter donors was a T-shirt. We > > are thus soliciting T-shirt designs. The the

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] Fwd: Re: Roadmap / Wishlists

2011-04-18 Thread Sandy Harris
Philip Hands wrote: > The UK's RIPA (Regulatory and Investigatory Powers Act 2000) makes it an > offence to refuse to supply one's crypto keys when requested by a > properly authorised person ... Yes, and there are plenty of similar problems elsewhere. The US government demanding Twitter records

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] Fwd: Re: Roadmap / Wishlists

2011-04-18 Thread Philip Hands
On Mon, 18 Apr 2011 01:44:38 -0400, AnotherPeasant wrote: ... > I like the way you think, but what if I forget my hammer? What if > there's no handy hard surface to smash the card against? I always carry > a multitool on me, always, so I've got it covered for me. You don't fly much then, I ta

[Freedombox-discuss] "Freedom out of the box"

2011-04-18 Thread Christian Staudt
"freedom out of the box" It's hard for me to imagine that nobody else has already thought of this as a motto/tagline/subtitle for the project. But I like it, and now that the discussion revolves about logos, design identity, and t- shirt designs, I thought I should propose it. It would be