Re: [Freedombox-discuss] Updated home page

2011-07-07 Thread Robert Martinez
On 07/07/2011 02:46 AM, Stefano Maffulli wrote: BTW, if there is a way to include subtitles in html5 let me know. i never used it, but it may interest you http://www.universalsubtitles.org/en/ Feedback and code appreciated http://freedomboxfoundation.org /stef adding a "poster" image attrib

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] Establishing Communicationbetween Freedomboxes

2011-07-07 Thread John Walsh
Hi Ian > Behalf Of i...@churchkey.org > > I think the best way to do this is through something like a > dynamicDNS centralized service. Currently, the network effect > is on the side of intermediated social networks because > having everyone's contacts in one place makes it much easier > to

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] Updated home page

2011-07-07 Thread John Walsh
> s.alioth.debian.org] On Behalf Of Stefano Maffulli > > Feedback and code appreciated http://freedomboxfoundation.org /stef I have to scroll horizontally to see the home page on my netbook :( ___ Freedombox-discuss mailing list Freedombox-discuss@l

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] Relationship driven privacy

2011-07-07 Thread Daniel Kahn Gillmor
On 07/07/2011 02:41 AM, nathan nolast wrote: > i think keysignings violate lutzs ease of use I agree that current keysigning methods are cumbersome, primarily due to the requirement that human beings have to cognitively process long hexadecimal strings (large numbers). I recommend reviewing the d

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] Updated home page

2011-07-07 Thread i...@churchkey.org
On 07/07/2011 05:20 AM, Robert Martinez wrote: > > > On 07/07/2011 02:46 AM, Stefano Maffulli wrote: >> BTW, if there is a way to include subtitles in html5 let me know. > > i never used it, but it may interest you > http://www.universalsubtitles.org/en/ That's actually what we're using for sub

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] Establishing Communicationbetween Freedomboxes

2011-07-07 Thread i...@churchkey.org
On 07/07/2011 05:39 AM, John Walsh wrote: > I think the only measures you can take to stop SPAM is probably a > Block/Report Account > So, if we're dealing with centralized directories, you can report an address to them and trigger whatever review process the community of people in that directory

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] Updated home page

2011-07-07 Thread Stefano Maffulli
On Thu, 2011-07-07 at 11:20 +0200, Robert Martinez wrote: > adding a "poster" image attribute to the html5 video on the front page > would be great. I added the poster image and the universalsubtitles. I can't find a way to pass the width/height attribute to the video using the universalsubtitl

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] Establishing Communication between Freedomboxes

2011-07-07 Thread Ted Smith
On Mon, 2011-07-04 at 15:52 -0400, i...@churchkey.org wrote: > I think it is important to consider that people want a mechanism for > enforcing community standards of SPAM and abuse. Everything from forums > to online dating sites rely on having a mechanism for filtering out > communications and me

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] Establishing Communication between Freedomboxes

2011-07-07 Thread i...@churchkey.org
On 07/07/2011 11:39 AM, Ted Smith wrote: > As such, I don't see why a fully distributed system, where each node > detects spam and does not relay it, wouldn't suffice in any case. There > is no reason for the power of deciding which messages are malicious and > which aren't to be concentrated in

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] Establishing Communicationbetween Freedomboxes

2011-07-07 Thread Bjarni Rúnar Einarsson
Hello all! On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 9:39 AM, John Walsh wrote: > > I just realised that the FreedomBox Foundation will have to offer a > centralised DynamicDNS service for those FreedomBox users with an ISP > provided Dynamic IP address. I am a user, but is this a reasonable > assumption. > > If m

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] Updated home page

2011-07-07 Thread Bjarni Rúnar Einarsson
On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 3:20 PM, Stefano Maffulli wrote: > On Thu, 2011-07-07 at 11:20 +0200, Robert Martinez wrote: > > adding a "poster" image attribute to the html5 video on the front page > > would be great. > > I added the poster image and the universalsubtitles. > > I can't find a way to pass

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] Establishing Communication between Freedomboxes

2011-07-07 Thread Daniel Kahn Gillmor
On 07/07/2011 12:43 PM, i...@churchkey.org wrote: > If the Dynamic DNS based > public directory I proposed is particularly troubling to you, perhaps we > could focus on how that is different from DNS itself, the gpg > keyservers OpenPGP keyservers have no authority in and of themselves; the inform

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] Establishing Communication between Freedomboxes

2011-07-07 Thread Marc Manthey
On Jul 7, 2011, at 6:43 PM, i...@churchkey.org wrote: On 07/07/2011 11:39 AM, Ted Smith wrote: As such, I don't see why a fully distributed system, where each node detects spam and does not relay it, wouldn't suffice in any case. There is no reason for the power of deciding which messages ar

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] Establishing Communicationbetween Freedomboxes

2011-07-07 Thread Daniel Kahn Gillmor
On 07/07/2011 01:27 PM, Bjarni Rúnar Einarsson wrote: > Contrasting this with the GPG/keyserver idea, I'd like to point out that DNS > is already a highly distributed scalable system with a global selection of > providers already in place. The keyservers are relatively centralized and > fragile by

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] Relationship driven privacy

2011-07-07 Thread The Doctor
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/06/2011 02:43 PM, Tony Godshall wrote: > anonymous. But I don't see why, if you've > verified a claimed identity in some other > reasonable sense you cannot sign someone's > key even if its pseudonymous. You can sign a pseudanonymous key and p

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] Establishing Communicationbetween Freedomboxes

2011-07-07 Thread Bjarni Rúnar Einarsson
On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 5:51 PM, Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote: > > OpenPGP keyservers act as a gossiping cloud -- no one keyserver is "the > most up-to-date" at any point. The only way that they're centralized is > that we currently access them through DNS. Indeed, the worst problems > we've had wit

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] Establishing Communicationbetween Freedomboxes

2011-07-07 Thread i...@churchkey.org
On 07/07/2011 01:27 PM, Bjarni Rúnar Einarsson wrote: > I just realised that the FreedomBox Foundation will have to offer a > centralised DynamicDNS service for those FreedomBox users with an ISP > provided Dynamic IP address. I am a user, but is this a reasonable > assumption. > >

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] Establishing Communicationbetween Freedomboxes

2011-07-07 Thread Daniel Kahn Gillmor
On 07/07/2011 02:43 PM, Bjarni Rúnar Einarsson wrote: > However, if 100 dissidents use 1 different TLDs from 1000 different DNS > providers, FWIW, there are nowhere near 1 TLDs; you're probably not actually interested in TLDs directly, but rather in the labels variously described as "effec

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] Establishing Communicationbetween Freedomboxes

2011-07-07 Thread bertagaz
On Thu, Jul 07, 2011 at 06:43:06PM +, Bjarni Rúnar Einarsson wrote: > On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 5:51 PM, Daniel Kahn Gillmor > wrote: > > > > > OpenPGP keyservers act as a gossiping cloud -- no one keyserver is "the > > most up-to-date" at any point. The only way that they're centralized is > >

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] Relationship driven privacy

2011-07-07 Thread Daniel Kahn Gillmor
On 07/07/2011 02:36 PM, The Doctor wrote: > You can sign a pseudanonymous key and publish it. What you have to be > cognizant of, however, is the trust level of the pseudanonymous key (set > when the public key is signed), which ranges from 0 (no trust at all) to > 5 (trust fully). Urgh, this is

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] Establishing Communication between Freedomboxes

2011-07-07 Thread Ted Smith
On Sat, 2011-07-02 at 16:14 +0200, Lukas Nagl wrote: > Hi, > > although the topic is raised in various subjects, I think that there is > a need for a specific place to talk about how different freedomboxes > will be able to establish communication with each other. > > This question doesn't conc

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] Updated home page

2011-07-07 Thread Robert Martinez
On 07/07/2011 05:20 PM, Stefano Maffulli wrote: On Thu, 2011-07-07 at 11:20 +0200, Robert Martinez wrote: adding a "poster" image attribute to the html5 video on the front page would be great. I added the poster image and the universalsubtitles. I can't find a way to pass the width/height at

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] Relationship driven privacy

2011-07-07 Thread Tony Godshall
On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 11:41 PM, nathan nolast wrote: > i think keysignings violate lutzs ease of use (grandma can use it) rule . of course they do. propose a solution. ___ Freedombox-discuss mailing list Freedombox-discuss@lists.alioth.debian.org htt

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] Relationship driven privacy

2011-07-07 Thread Tony Godshall
>> (grandma can use it) rule . > > Can we please stop using "grandma" as the canonical non-technical user? >  The gender and age prejudice implicit in these statements only hurts > efforts to build a diverse development community (and makes the > community look like thoughtless jerks). > > If you d

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] Relationship driven privacy

2011-07-07 Thread Marc Manthey
On Jul 7, 2011, at 10:54 PM, Tony Godshall wrote: On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 11:41 PM, nathan nolast wrote: i think keysignings violate lutzs ease of use (grandma can use it) rule . of course they do. propose a solution. The questions is more " Who decide whitch path we go ". maybe we shou

[Freedombox-discuss] Open Internet Meetup

2011-07-07 Thread James Vasile
Hey NYC FreedomBoxers, Shane Reustle is organizing an Open Internet meetup next Thursday the 14th. 7pm in the North East corner of Bryant Park. See you there! http://www.meetup.com/openinternet/ ___ Freedombox-discuss mailing list Freedombox-discuss@lis

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] Establishing Communicationbetween Freedomboxes

2011-07-07 Thread Tony Godshall
2011/7/7 Bjarni Rúnar Einarsson : > Hello all! > > On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 9:39 AM, John Walsh wrote: >> >> I just realised that the FreedomBox Foundation will have to offer a >> centralised DynamicDNS service for those FreedomBox users with an ISP >> provided Dynamic IP address. I am a user, but i

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] Establishing Communicationbetween Freedomboxes

2011-07-07 Thread Bjarni Rúnar Einarsson
On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 8:04 PM, Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote: > On 07/07/2011 02:43 PM, Bjarni Rúnar Einarsson wrote: > > However, if 100 dissidents use 1 different TLDs from 1000 different > DNS > > providers, > > FWIW, there are nowhere near 1 TLDs; you're probably not actually > interested

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] Establishing Communicationbetween Freedomboxes

2011-07-07 Thread Daniel Kahn Gillmor
On 07/07/2011 05:34 PM, Bjarni Rúnar Einarsson wrote: > Those seizures all took place on .com/.net/... domains, right? I don't > think the Americans have had the audacity to go after domains under TLDs > nominally belonging to foreign countries yet. So which country's government *is* an acceptabl

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] Relationship driven privacy

2011-07-07 Thread Tony Godshall
On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 2:12 PM, Marc Manthey wrote: > > On Jul 7, 2011, at 10:54 PM, Tony Godshall wrote: > >> On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 11:41 PM, nathan nolast >> wrote: >>> >>> i think keysignings violate lutzs ease of use (grandma can use it) rule . >> >> of course they do. propose a solution. >

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] Establishing Communicationbetween Freedomboxes

2011-07-07 Thread Marc Manthey
On Jul 8, 2011, at 12:36 AM, Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote: On 07/07/2011 05:34 PM, Bjarni Rúnar Einarsson wrote: Those seizures all took place on .com/.net/... domains, right? I don't think the Americans have had the audacity to go after domains under TLDs nominally belonging to foreign coun

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] Establishing Communicationbetween Freedomboxes

2011-07-07 Thread Clint Adams
On Thu, Jul 07, 2011 at 02:33:37PM -0700, Tony Godshall wrote: > Is Tor centralized this way? The Tor directory authorities are centralized, but the effect of compromising a DNS root server is probably worse than compromising a Tor directory authority. If all the Tor directory authorities are bad

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] Relationship driven privacy

2011-07-07 Thread Sandy Harris
On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 2:41 PM, nathan nolast wrote: > i think keysignings violate lutzs ease of use (grandma can use it) rule . Is it enough if people just sign their grandmas' keys? ___ Freedombox-discuss mailing list Freedombox-discuss@lists.alioth

Re: [Freedombox-discuss] Relationship driven privacy

2011-07-07 Thread John Walsh
Hi Mike and Everybody > Friendika was mentioned in this thread but in a different > context, so I wanted to point out what we do for profile > personas. There may be some ideas you can use. It's a > distributed system, but has multiple profiles. > You can tailor any profile for any person or