Re: [Freedos-devel] Google Summer of Code?

2023-01-23 Thread Louis Santillan
On Sat, Jan 21, 2023 at 4:08 PM Jim Hall wrote: > So let's discuss: > > What core programs or components should we put into the application - > if we apply and can get accepted? For 386+ machines, what about an installer based on Linux that doesn’t need to reboot multiple times to install to HD

Re: [Freedos-devel] UEFI, virtual BIOS and virtual hardware - was: Google Summer of Code?

2023-01-23 Thread Louis Santillan
Over the last couple years, DOSBox and DOSBoxPure in RetroPie and RetroArch have become quite popular. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LRy8brZ7DVc https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-mD2DnMVoLE Consider standardizing on that. RPis will have access via RetroPie. There’s a version of DOSBox in the variou

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS / Jim on TheRegister

2023-01-23 Thread Jim Hall
On Mon, Jan 23, 2023 at 5:50 PM Aitor Santamaría wrote: > > Hello, > > Founder of FreeDOS recounts the story so far, and the future • The Register Thanks to Liam for the interview. We discussed the history of FreeDOS, and some of the directions we've been talking about here, off and on. I think

[Freedos-devel] FreeDOS / Jim on TheRegister

2023-01-23 Thread Aitor Santamaría
Hello, Founder of FreeDOS recounts the story so far, and the future • The Register Aitor ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourcef

Re: [Freedos-devel] UEFI, virtual BIOS and virtual hardware - was: Google Summer of Code?

2023-01-23 Thread Steve Nickolas
On Mon, 23 Jan 2023, E. Auer wrote: Depending on how thin the glue and VM layer will be, you will be able to run fewer or more DOS apps with it. You can run some DOS apps in CTTY serial consoles if they only use int 21 for user I/O. There are support modes for simple DOS apps in some boot mana

Re: [Freedos-devel] Google Summer of Code?

2023-01-23 Thread Ralf Quint
On 1/22/2023 11:30 PM, Robert Riebisch wrote: Hi Liam, "All" it needs is a memory manager that can start as a 32-bit process, set up a few interrupts -- INT 11 for the hard disk, for instance -- INT 11? Hard disk is Int 13h. Yup, INT 11h is getting BIOS equipment list. Give him the benefit of

[Freedos-devel] UEFI, virtual BIOS and virtual hardware - was: Google Summer of Code?

2023-01-23 Thread E. Auer
Hi Bret, thanks for the great summary! For awhile, the UEFI manufacturers provided a CSM (Compatibility Support Module) as the "translation layer" so you didn't need a VM. But they've even stopped doing that nowadays. So, we'll either need to come up with a "generic CSM" that doesn't need a

Re: [Freedos-devel] Google Summer of Code?

2023-01-23 Thread Jerome Shidel
Hi Bret, Yep! You said it all much better and in far greater detail than I went into. Thanks. :-) Jerome > On Jan 23, 2023, at 1:54 PM, Bret Johnson wrote: > >  >> >> by the way, the 2 programs are the setup stuff and edlin. hardly >> rocket science. > > Even those two "simple" programs

Re: [Freedos-devel] Google Summer of Code?

2023-01-23 Thread Bret Johnson
> by the way, the 2 programs are the setup stuff and edlin. hardly > rocket science. Even those two "simple" programs would probably be considered "rocket science", or at least akin to "learning a foreign language", by most students who are only used to modern technology and web apps. Low-level

Re: [Freedos-devel] Google Summer of Code?

2023-01-23 Thread jerome
Hi, > On Jan 22, 2023, at 4:37 PM, Liam Proven wrote: > > On Sun, 22 Jan 2023 at 22:11, Jerome Shidel wrote: >> >> Assuming Google does not scrap GSoC amidst the layoffs, I have a thought. >> >> Perhaps it could be used to solve one of the most frequent problems I hear. >> Running FreeDOS o