Re: [Freedos-devel] FW: FreeDOS compatibility issue according to Asus

2015-03-31 Thread Ralf Quint
On 3/31/2015 12:40 PM, Teddy T. wrote: Are Tom's reply supposed to be of any use ?! I don't get the point of it, sorry. Well, the short English version of it would be: Get a clue! Ralf --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com --

Re: [Freedos-devel] FW: FreeDOS compatibility issue according to Asus

2015-03-31 Thread Teddy T .
no a computer does have FreeDOS inside or should I trust Asus on words because FreeDOS can't be seen or used in a laptop ? Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2015 14:34:16 -0400 From: jcharbonnea...@cpsge.org To: freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Freedos-devel] FW: FreeDOS compatibility issue

Re: [Freedos-devel] FW: FreeDOS compatibility issue according to Asus

2015-03-31 Thread Teddy T .
15 08:20:47 -0500 From: mkgra...@gmx.com To: freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Freedos-devel] FW: FreeDOS compatibility issue according to Asus I think you either misunderstood the ASUS rep, the ASUS rep misunderstood you, or the ASUS rep doesn't know

Re: [Freedos-devel] FW: FreeDOS compatibility issue according to Asus

2015-03-31 Thread Teddy T .
Are Tom's reply supposed to be of any use ?! I don't get the point of it, sorry. > Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2015 13:39:51 +0200 > From: t...@drivesnapshot.de > To: freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: Re: [Freedos-devel] FW: FreeDOS compatibility issue according to

Re: [Freedos-devel] FW: FreeDOS compatibility issue according to Asus

2015-03-31 Thread JAYDEN CHARBONNEAU
On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 7:18 PM,Teddy T. wrote: "Rugxulo, Do you show yourself so unrespectfull and misconsidering on purpose ? How is whatever you say related to our request or even helping ?!" Teddy,I am going to ask this again.Please stop putting other community members down.Rugluxio has helpe

Re: [Freedos-devel] FW: FreeDOS compatibility issue according to Asus

2015-03-31 Thread Michael Graham
I think you either misunderstood the ASUS rep, the ASUS rep misunderstood you, or the ASUS rep doesn't know what he's talking about. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if the ASUS rep was just saying things to try to end the support call. I had to deal with them recently to try and figure out w

Re: [Freedos-devel] FW: FreeDOS compatibility issue according to Asus

2015-03-31 Thread Tom Ehlert
To: freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: Re: [Freedos-devel] FW: FreeDOS compatibility issue according to Asus > I was just installing my new computer with ASUS motherboard and I > came across the following page: > http://www.manualslib.com/manual/806097/Asus-B85-Pro-Gamer.htm

Re: [Freedos-devel] FW: FreeDOS compatibility issue according to Asus

2015-03-31 Thread Teddy T .
Thanks for this comment Imre, I will now concentrate on finding if FreeDOS really is in those products. From: t3...@hotmail.com To: freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [Freedos-devel] FW: FreeDOS compatibility issue according to Asus Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2015 05:57:31 -0400 So

Re: [Freedos-devel] FW: FreeDOS compatibility issue according to Asus

2015-03-31 Thread Teddy T .
sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Freedos-devel] FW: FreeDOS compatibility issue according to Asus I was just installing my new computer with ASUS motherboard and I came across the following page: http://www.manualslib.com/manual/806097/Asus-B85-Pro-Gamer.html?page=40#manual. Unless I am reading this

Re: [Freedos-devel] FW: FreeDOS compatibility issue according to Asus

2015-03-30 Thread imre . leber
18:11 Onderwerp: Re: [Freedos-devel] FW: FreeDOS compatibility issue according to Asus Eric, Thanks for helping, saying in a few words what I sometimes need several sentences to try to explain. Yes I'm now convinced by our discussion that there's no chance FreeDOS could be related to

Re: [Freedos-devel] FW: FreeDOS compatibility issue according to Asus

2015-03-30 Thread Teddy T .
puter also has a HDD... that won't be visible until its partitions are deleted and recreated, then only it will be visible in the BIOS. Anyway considering FreeDOS can't be the cause of Asus BIOS issues, we'll turn back to shop technicians to take care of the laptops and legals t

Re: [Freedos-devel] FW: FreeDOS compatibility issue according to Asus

2015-03-30 Thread Steve Nickolas
The only problem I have with an Asus BIOS (and it's an AMIBIOS, really), is that for some reason I can't put an SSD as the default boot device, so I need to manually pick my C drive for 7 from the boot menu. Pain in the keester, but really only a minor annoyance when you only infrequently rebo

Re: [Freedos-devel] FW: FreeDOS compatibility issue according to Asus

2015-03-30 Thread perditionc
On Mar 30, 2015 2:56 PM, "Eric Auer" wrote: ... > > PPS: Can anybody check if similar "Asuses" have the same issue? ... I have never had a problem with this for any of my Asus motherboards; I have had several through the years. I once had an issue booting a nonstandard bootdisk but I don't recal

Re: [Freedos-devel] FW: FreeDOS compatibility issue according to Asus

2015-03-30 Thread Ralf Quint
On 3/30/2015 11:55 AM, Eric Auer wrote: > I totally agree with you that this problem is NOT ABOUT DOS AT > ALL: It instead seems to be about Asus BIOS, letting you set a > LIST of drives to try for booting - but then showing only some > error message if the FIRST drive on your list fails to boot. +

Re: [Freedos-devel] FW: FreeDOS compatibility issue according to Asus

2015-03-30 Thread Eric Auer
Hi Rugxulo, Teddy, by LiveCD, Teddy means a bootable CD which can be used without installation. Of course any other bootable CD, including some used for installing things to disk, would have the same issue. I totally agree with you that this problem is NOT ABOUT DOS AT ALL: It instead seems to b

Re: [Freedos-devel] FW: FreeDOS compatibility issue according to Asus

2015-03-30 Thread JAYDEN CHARBONNEAU
Teddy,I thank you for agreeing with me,but can you not call Rugxulo "kid"?You seem condescending to him.I would ask that you treat all members with respect,as we are all on the same community.If you want to say to people straight up that they don't know anything,then I don't think a team is fit for

Re: [Freedos-devel] FW: FreeDOS compatibility issue according to Asus

2015-03-29 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Sun, Mar 29, 2015 at 7:08 PM, Teddy T. wrote: > Bret, > I really don't know how Asus treats FreeDOS, I didn't even know FreeDOS > could be on those machines before Asus put the blame on it. > I use Windows, LiveCDs, but except command prompt under Windows, I never > boot on DOS only. What

Re: [Freedos-devel] FW: FreeDOS compatibility issue according to Asus

2015-03-29 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Sun, Mar 29, 2015 at 6:08 PM, Teddy T. wrote: > > The link to the Asus G741JM : > http://www.asus.com/supportonly/g741jm/HelpDesk_Download/ I see five potential BIOS updates and two FAQs about flashing. But the only choice seems to be (OS) "Windows 8.1 64-bit" or "Others". And there's a "

Re: [Freedos-devel] FW: FreeDOS compatibility issue according to Asus

2015-03-29 Thread Teddy T .
o creating things and what % is dedicated to optimisation and bug-tracking (in most good companies), you'll be amazed and you should understand a bit more what most of 7 billions customers really agree to pay for. > Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2015 15:05:31 +0100 > From: e.a...@jpberlin.de >

Re: [Freedos-devel] FW: FreeDOS compatibility issue according to Asus

2015-03-29 Thread Teddy T .
eedos.org > To: freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: Re: [Freedos-devel] FW: FreeDOS compatibility issue according to > Asus > > On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 9:37 AM, JAYDEN CHARBONNEAU > wrote: > > I wonder what Jim Hall is thinking of this?He must not be hap

Re: [Freedos-devel] FW: FreeDOS compatibility issue according to Asus

2015-03-28 Thread Steve Nickolas
On Sat, 28 Mar 2015, Rugxulo wrote: > (EDIT: I was going to be like Jim and mention that they "recommend > Windows", same as Dell. I think I was even going to say, "Steam has > 4500 games, most for Windows only", but Wikipedia does claim that > Steam for Linux now has roughly 20% of those. Gaming

Re: [Freedos-devel] FW: FreeDOS compatibility issue according to Asus

2015-03-28 Thread Eric Auer
Hi Jayden, > Well,perhaps we say this from now on:We should posts/notify on our website > that FreeDOS isn't compatible with some ASUS computers. But that is NOT what Teddy is complaining about! He complains about the user-unfriendly boot device priority list config in his BIOS of some Asus comp

Re: [Freedos-devel] FW: FreeDOS compatibility issue according to Asus

2015-03-28 Thread JAYDEN CHARBONNEAU
Well,perhaps we say this from now on:We should posts/notify on our website that FreeDOS isn't compatible with some ASUS computers. On Sat, Mar 28, 2015 at 2:57 AM, Rugxulo wrote: > Hi, > > On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 12:44 AM, Teddy T. wrote: > > > > Do you really mean what you say or did Asus pay

Re: [Freedos-devel] FW: FreeDOS compatibility issue according to Asus

2015-03-28 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 12:44 AM, Teddy T. wrote: > > Do you really mean what you say or did Asus pay you for this ?! Let's not be ridiculous. I had to look up ASUS because I'm not very familiar with their company. Apparently they are based in Taiwan. That means they speak an entirely differ

Re: [Freedos-devel] FW: FreeDOS compatibility issue according to Asus

2015-03-27 Thread JAYDEN CHARBONNEAU
; then ASUS should be testing their systems to make sure it > works with the bundled copy of FreeDOS. > <5>http://www.freedos.org/technotes/technote/archive/196.html > <6>http://www.freedos.org/technotes/technote/211.html > > > > jh > > > > > On Thu, Ma

Re: [Freedos-devel] FW: FreeDOS compatibility issue according to Asus

2015-03-26 Thread Jim Hall
>> >> I wonder if it's even physically possible to sue FreeDOS because it >> doesn't exist as a legal organization. >> >> >> >> Van: "Teddy T." >> Aan: "Technical discussion and questions fo

Re: [Freedos-devel] FW: FreeDOS compatibility issue according to Asus

2015-03-26 Thread JAYDEN CHARBONNEAU
for FreeDOS developers." < > freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> > *Verzonden: *Donderdag 26 maart 2015 07:08:15 > *Onderwerp: *Re: [Freedos-devel] FW: FreeDOS compatibility issue > according to Asus > > > Hi Eric, > > Ok for boot virus, we're not concerned be

Re: [Freedos-devel] FW: FreeDOS compatibility issue according to Asus

2015-03-26 Thread imre . leber
t 2015 07:08:15 Onderwerp: Re: [Freedos-devel] FW: FreeDOS compatibility issue according to Asus Hi Eric, Ok for boot virus, we're not concerned because of the way we use our PCs but yes other "standard" customers could be. We don't complain for the default boot option 1 to

Re: [Freedos-devel] FW: FreeDOS compatibility issue according to Asus

2015-03-26 Thread imre . leber
t 2015 06:44:51 Onderwerp: Re: [Freedos-devel] FW: FreeDOS compatibility issue according to Asus And no Asus "decide" that their computer will still give the ability to set this boot list but if you do it will prevent the PC from booting because their BIOS can't handle it...

Re: [Freedos-devel] FW: FreeDOS compatibility issue according to Asus

2015-03-25 Thread Teddy T .
was one, and then they decided that yes but the fault was on FreeDOS. Very honest and professional... Regards. > Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2015 21:16:04 +0100 > From: e.a...@jpberlin.de > To: freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: Re: [Freedos-devel] FW: FreeDOS compatibility issue according

Re: [Freedos-devel] FW: FreeDOS compatibility issue according to Asus

2015-03-25 Thread Teddy T .
5 Mar 2015 10:36:07 -0400 From: jcharbonnea...@cpsge.org To: freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Freedos-devel] FW: FreeDOS compatibility issue according to Asus Hmmm.Perhaps we can figure out WHY this problem happened in the first place?I am actually curious to know how our

Re: [Freedos-devel] FW: FreeDOS compatibility issue according to Asus

2015-03-25 Thread Teddy T .
e more than one boot device, don't set a second boot device, we won't use it anyway and all you'll get is an error message". > Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2015 00:23:19 -0500 > From: rugx...@gmail.com > To: freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: Re: [Freedos-devel] F

Re: [Freedos-devel] FW: FreeDOS compatibility issue according to Asus

2015-03-25 Thread Eric Auer
Hi Teddy, the whole point of a boot virus is that it makes the infected disk bootable, at least for booting the virus. Of course if the disk has no operating system on it, you get an error message - after you get infected :-p I do not know why "every" PC had a default to boot from CD, DVD or fl

Re: [Freedos-devel] FW: FreeDOS compatibility issue according to Asus

2015-03-25 Thread JAYDEN CHARBONNEAU
Hmmm.Perhaps we can figure out WHY this problem happened in the first place?I am actually curious to know how our OS is messing up ASUS anyway. (And in regards to this comment "our devel folks are not employees",I was not even thinking anywhere near that line.I was simply saying we should begin wor

Re: [Freedos-devel] FW: FreeDOS compatibility issue according to Asus

2015-03-24 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 10:04 PM, Teddy T. wrote: > > We'd just like an "official" confirmation if FreeDOS can really cause this > kind of problem, and if not then we'll use it against Asus in a trial, and > prevent Asus from sueing FreeDOS. I'm no lawyer, and I'll admit to not fully underst

Re: [Freedos-devel] FW: FreeDOS compatibility issue according to Asus

2015-03-24 Thread Teddy T .
pose a solution. We'd just like an "official" confirmation if FreeDOS can really cause this kind of problem, and if not then we'll use it against Asus in a trial, and prevent Asus from sueing FreeDOS. Regards. > Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2015 22:14:13 +0100 > From: e.a...@jpberli

Re: [Freedos-devel] FW: FreeDOS compatibility issue according to Asus

2015-03-24 Thread Eric Auer
Hi Teddy, as this thread got rather long, I reply to some snippets from several of your mails in one single reply mail here :-) > For the past 20 years, since Windows 95, most (or maybe all) PCs had the HDD > as third or forth boot option, mainly after floppy disk and optical drive. No, that

[Freedos-devel] FW: FreeDOS compatibility issue according to Asus

2015-03-20 Thread Teddy T .
Hi Eric, thanks for your answer. For the past 20 years, since Windows 95, most (or maybe all) PCs had the HDD as third or forth boot option, mainly after floppy disk and optical drive. So this can't be a source of problem. Even today, for a USB device, CD or DVD to be loaded; those must be boo