Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS compatibility issue according to Asus

2015-04-14 Thread Teddy T .
Hi, For those who asked for updates on Asus laptops issue (yes because many actual Asus model have the same boot issue), French fraud repression service advised us to deal with the ressellers. I contacted mine and after reproduicing the problem themselves, on several Asus models, they gave me

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS compatibility issue according to Asus

2015-03-28 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 9:52 AM, Bret wrote: > > Is the ASUS system actually treating FreeDOS differently than Windows? That > is, does Windows boot properly from the HDD (but FreeDOS doesn't) even if > the HDD is not first in the BIOS boot order? Does MS-DOS or PC-DOS or > DR-DOS or ... bo

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS compatibility issue according to Asus

2015-03-27 Thread Bret
Is the ASUS system actually treating FreeDOS differently than Windows? That is, does Windows boot properly from the HDD (but FreeDOS doesn't) even if the HDD is not first in the BIOS boot order? Does MS-DOS or PC-DOS or DR-DOS or ... boot properly? -- View this message in context: http://free

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS compatibility issue according to Asus

2015-03-24 Thread Eric Auer
Hi Jayden, > Why would ASUS base their BIOS off of FreeDOS anyway? I mean, FreeDOS IS nice I doubt that they use DOS as "base" of their "BIOS". They probably use DOS for some other purposes, for example to help you to run their BIOS update tool. > and all, but is it really at the stage yet wher

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS compatibility issue according to Asus

2015-03-23 Thread Teddy T .
crap teams doing crap job. Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2015 09:14:58 +0100 From: imre.le...@telenet.be To: freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS compatibility issue according to Asus I mean if they sell you a computer and they choose to use FreeDOS for this, it's

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS compatibility issue according to Asus

2015-03-23 Thread Dave Kerber
for FreeDOS developers. > Subject: Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS compatibility issue according to > Asus > > Why would ASUS base their BIOS off of FreeDOS anyway?I mean,FreeDOS IS > nice and all,but is it really at the stage yet where it can be > implemented in corporate machines?I thi

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS compatibility issue according to Asus

2015-03-23 Thread Dave Kerber
> -Original Message- > From: JAYDEN CHARBONNEAU [mailto:jcharbonnea...@cpsge.org] > Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2015 7:22 AM > To: Technical discussion and questions for FreeDOS developers. > Subject: Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS compatibility issue according to > Asus &

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS compatibility issue according to Asus

2015-03-23 Thread JAYDEN CHARBONNEAU
eDOS runs correctly. > > -- > *Van: *"imre leber" > *Aan: *"Technical discussion and questions for FreeDOS developers." < > freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> > *Verzonden: *Maandag 23 maart 2015 09:10:39 > > *Onderwerp: *Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS compat

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS compatibility issue according to Asus

2015-03-23 Thread imre . leber
Aan: "Technical discussion and questions for FreeDOS developers." Verzonden: Maandag 23 maart 2015 09:10:39 Onderwerp: Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS compatibility issue according to Asus FreeDOS is open source, if Asus wants to do something with FreeDOS, they can do so regardless. ---

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS compatibility issue according to Asus

2015-03-23 Thread imre . leber
hing to let computer use boot option 2 when boot option 1 is not available instead of showing an error message ? Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2015 04:22:23 -0700 From: jcharbonnea...@cpsge.org To: freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS compatibility issue according

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS compatibility issue according to Asus

2015-03-22 Thread Teddy T .
s not available instead of showing an error message ? Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2015 04:22:23 -0700 From: jcharbonnea...@cpsge.org To: freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS compatibility issue according to Asus I have heard of SeaBIOS,but I have never used it myself.Se

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS compatibility issue according to Asus

2015-03-22 Thread JAYDEN CHARBONNEAU
I have heard of SeaBIOS,but I have never used it myself.SeaBIOS looks like a good alternative for BIOS.(And about the punctuation,if sentences don't have spaces after symbols in real life then I won't do otherwise on the computer :p).Maybe there is a way we could implement SeaBIOS with FreeDOS as a

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS compatibility issue according to Asus

2015-03-21 Thread Steve Nickolas
On Sat, 21 Mar 2015, JAYDEN CHARBONNEAU wrote: > Well,UEFI has a legacy boot mode.But,in theory,one can take out the UEFI > firmware out a computer and put BIOS firmware in.So it is possible,if one > is hardware savvy.NIOS can still be special ordered in computers as > well.Also,I have thought abo

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS compatibility issue according to Asus

2015-03-21 Thread JAYDEN CHARBONNEAU
gnore for sure how their own products work, their technical > "support" is totally ignorant and I even had to teach them what boot > options mean, what PXE is used for and how to use a LiveCD... they never > heard that word by the way... > > ----------

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS compatibility issue according to Asus

2015-03-21 Thread Teddy T .
1 Mar 2015 04:33:02 -0700 From: jcharbonnea...@cpsge.org To: freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS compatibility issue according to Asus To add to this,I personally don't like UEFI.UEFI may be more eye appealing,with changeable themes,but it doesn't rea

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS compatibility issue according to Asus

2015-03-21 Thread JAYDEN CHARBONNEAU
r and how to use a LiveCD... they never > heard that word by the way... > > -- > Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2015 11:51:39 -0700 > From: jcharbonnea...@cpsge.org > To: freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS compatibility issue

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS compatibility issue according to Asus

2015-03-20 Thread Teddy T .
11:51:39 -0700 From: jcharbonnea...@cpsge.org To: freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS compatibility issue according to Asus If ASUS is trying to blame FreeDOS for something,why not prove it?I think they are just ignoring their OWN bios faults.I never had a

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS compatibility issue according to Asus

2015-03-20 Thread Teddy T .
ia in selected Boot device and press a key_". But do we have a way to determine if yes or no Asus integrated FreeDOS in their computers ? Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2015 12:43:58 -0400 From: perditi...@gmail.com To: freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS compatibility

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS compatibility issue according to Asus

2015-03-20 Thread Teddy T .
Reboot and Select properBoot device or Insert Boot Media in selected Boot device and press a key_" From: bretj...@juno.com Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2015 15:13:53 + To: freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS compatibility issue according to Asus There is nothing

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS compatibility issue according to Asus

2015-03-20 Thread Teddy T .
sge.org To: freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS compatibility issue according to Asus What I am curious about is to know why an operating system would affect the activities of BIOS.BIOS is its own separate thing.It looks for operating systems,yes,but operating systems can not pr

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS compatibility issue according to Asus

2015-03-20 Thread JAYDEN CHARBONNEAU
If ASUS is trying to blame FreeDOS for something,why not prove it?I think they are just ignoring their OWN bios faults.I never had a problem booting into FreeDOS with my bios (AwardStation BIOS).Yes,a disk may be formatted wrong,but that doesn't affect BIOS at all. On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 9:43 AM,

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS compatibility issue according to Asus

2015-03-20 Thread perditionc
On Mar 19, 2015 9:23 PM, "Teddy T." wrote: > > Good Evening, > ... > Could someone please confirm if FreeDOS may really cause this kind of problem, if it could prevent a BIOS from using several boot options, making it unable to switch automatically between them ? And if this behaviour is really ca

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS compatibility issue according to Asus

2015-03-20 Thread Bret Johnson
There is nothing "special" about how FreeDOS boots -- it boots the same way OS's have been booting for decades. I suspect it's more of a problem with modern BIOS's (if it's even a real BIOS and not some virtualized EFI/UEFI thing) not even bothering to test with legacy stuff any more (specifica

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS compatibility issue according to Asus

2015-03-20 Thread JAYDEN CHARBONNEAU
What I am curious about is to know why an operating system would affect the activities of BIOS.BIOS is its own separate thing.It looks for operating systems,yes,but operating systems can not prevent BIOS from doing its usual tasks.The operating systems aren't even loaded.That's what BIOS is for.If

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS compatibility issue according to Asus

2015-03-19 Thread Eric Auer
Hi Teddy, > We are customers about to make a trial against Asus on french court > for a hidden problem in the bios of their "Asus ROG G741JM" notebook > preventing it from switching between several boot options (ie. when > ODD is set as boot option #1 and there's no bootable disk inside the > PC

[Freedos-devel] FreeDOS compatibility issue according to Asus

2015-03-19 Thread Teddy T .
Good Evening, We are customers about to make a trial against Asus on french court for a hidden problem in the bios of their "Asus ROG G741JM" notebook preventing it from switching between several boot options (ie. when ODD is set as boot option #1 and there's no bootable disk inside the PC show